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24 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'm not going to look this up unless Moonbox or one of his progressive ilk challenge me on it but didn't I read somewhere that Big Pharma had some law passed that you couldn't sue them for liability on any harm their "Vaccine" did?

That was part of the deal they made with each country's government.

No one can sue them for liability if SHTF.

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And what if mommy's boosters aren't up do date little Johnny? Will you report her to the vaccination police (as a worthy young vaccination comrade should), to be sent to a vaccination rehabilitation program? A year back now, we had no idea that vaccination mandates were possible. OK, let's check again a year from now.

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39 minutes ago, Goddess said:

He said if the inoculations turn out to lead to increases in deaths, disabilities and chronic care illnesses as some studies show, they'll be in trouble.  So they are looking for ways/reasons to mitigate a flood of claims.  In case this happens, Pharma is off the hook, obviously, and governments can claim it wasn't a "law" and that they never actually "forced" anyone to do it and everyone knew it was a big experiment anyways, right? Right? Government would claim no responsibility for damages.  So this is one way they could avoid paying out a flood of claims - everyone knew they were experimental.  If you chose to do it, tough luck.  The article was almost exactly what they've talked about in the insurance business.

NOPE. Your friend doesn't seem to have much understanding of the insurance business, considering the number of deaths or complications from vaccines so far have been so negligible that they may as well be non-existent for actuarial purposes.  

That article was complete rubbish.  

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1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

I disagree with you Goddess. The bit Moonbox cut out of his quote was this:

So they're being perfectly clear and up front with you as to what the information is they're offering. It's simply presented for your consideration as is and they're not attempting to pass it off as anything else.

Moonbox doesn't seem to think a reader would be intelligent enough to understand that and take it into consideration. Apparently in at least one case he appears to be correct.

The title may be a little click baity but the description immediately below it says:

Any discerning reader should be able to at least get that far and understand social media is the source until they're told different. And they were. It's a story from the lawyer involved he made viral on social media. He's the source. I've seen the CBC offer less than that.

An intelligent reader would have stopped reading as soon as they realized the author was nattering about a bunch of stuff that couldn't be sourced or verified outside of a lawyer complaining on FACEBOOK!

If what the lawyer was saying was true, then those court records would be readily available.  The best part is that the article itself just links you to an angry french lawyer's facebook page.  It neither quotes or translates what was said, so good luck actually finding the reference yourself. 

This is a PERFECT example of 4dchan conspiracy larpist news.  You just throw a bunch of hot-take headlines out there, link a bunch of stuff that doesn't actually prove what you're saying, and safely assume that there are a bunch of angry 4dchan larpists that will swallow it whole without even a microsecond of critical thinking or skepticism.  

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2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

An intelligent reader would have stopped reading as soon as they realized the author was nattering about a bunch of stuff that couldn't be sourced or verified outside of a lawyer complaining on FACEBOOK!

This is what I don't agree is fair.

You/They shut down all dissent on ALL media and then you complain people aren't telling their stories on the correct media sites.

I've asked several times here and gotten no answer from anyone - Where are people who are vaccine injured and have lost loved ones to the inoculations supposed to go?  None of you accept VAERS or VigiAccess, the governments and pharma have set up nothing to report adverse reactions/deaths, doctors are being intimidated into not reporting, no news reporter wants to touch a story like that......where do they go?  What site would you accept for them to have their say?

Thank goodness they have sites like Real Not Rare and No More Silence.  At least the injured can support themselves emotionally and bounce ideas for getting heard.

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6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This is what I don't agree is fair.

You/They shut down all dissent on ALL media and then you complain people aren't telling their stories on the correct media sites.

That's a silly and self-serving delusion.  It provides you carte-blanche to say whatever you want, and deny anything you want, because every media source in the world is suppressing your viewpoint.  Once you've fooled yourself into believing that, facts and sources have no bearing on the discussion anymore.  You've gone down the conspiracy rabbit-hole and now you're just playing make-believe.  

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Thank goodness they have sites like Real Not Rare and No More Silence.  At least the injured can support themselves emotionally and bounce ideas for getting heard.

Those are clown shows.  

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Nobody's denying that there are rare cases of bad side-effects.  There is with virtually any medicine.  

The point of contention is that sources like the ones you post have not even a shred of credibility.  They're little more than soap-boxes for angry tantrums, conspiracy theories and ranting.  

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Just now, Moonbox said:

Nobody's denying that there are rare cases of bad side-effects.  There is with virtually any medicine.  

The point of contention is that sources like the ones you post have even a shred of credibility.  They're little more than soap-boxes for angry tantrums, conspiracy theories and ranting.  

So, where do they go to be heard?  

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2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

So, where do they go to be heard?  

Nevermind.  You're just like all the rest here who just put your fingers in your ears saying "NANANANANA, can't hear you, my government says you don't exist!" and then these people just magically disappear.

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They can go wherever they like.  They can post there if they like.  They can come post here too.  

Regardless, those sites aren't even for them anyways.  They're a place for anti-vaxxers to comb the world for any claims (fake or otherwise) that the vaccines are bad so that they can compile them in the scariest way possible and convince people that their conspiracy ramblings are anything but the nonsense they are.  

 

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The issue is vaccines save many lives and prevent serious long term health problems caused by Covid.  The harm of vaccination is rare and the risk of not being vaccinated is far greater from Covid.  So what is society supposed to do?  Scare more people away from getting vaccinated?  That wouldn't make much sense.  Why promote anti-vaxxer's propaganda and nonsense.  There are more than enough vaccine hesitant people around and a lot of them have been frightened by misinformation and fear mongering anti-vaxxers.

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9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Have you even looked at them?  Because I have and I struggle to believe they are all lying clowns, as you claim.

Yes.  I am always interested in looking at angry conspiracy websites.  It usually takes about 30 seconds (maybe the first or second paragraph of my first article) to be able to highlight how completely buried in made-up bullshit they are.  I did that with your insurance claim.  I did that with my other thread in my opening post where you hilariously cited a doctor who denies HIV causes AIDS as your 'proof' for your anti-Fauci rambling.  

The only reason you find this nonsense compelling is that you're so desperate to find any "facts" that support your absurd viewpoints that you disable your skepticism and critical reasoning buffers and swallow it without filter.  If you applied even 5% of the skepticism for the MSM (much of which is warranted) to these imbecilic fringe websites, you'd see it for yourself.   

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16 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I did that with my other thread in my opening post where you hilariously cited a doctor who denies HIV causes AIDS as your 'proof' for your anti-Fauci rambling.  

Actually, you quickly googled a rebuttal and posted whatever it said.

I've actually read 2 books and numerous articles about Duesberg.

We are not the same.

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2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

An intelligent reader would have stopped reading as soon as they realized the author was nattering about a bunch of stuff that couldn't be sourced or verified outside of a lawyer complaining on FACEBOOK!

No, an intelligent reader would have realized it was an allegation on social media meant to encourage discussion. You know...like it did on this discussion board.

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9 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

No, an intelligent reader would have realized it was a discussion on a discussion board meant to encourage discussion. You know...like it did on this one.

I find it difficult to discuss much with some here.

They reject, without even reading, anything not approved by 'fact checkers" and don't address any of the points in the articles.  They reject anything by scientists who were at the top of their fields, pre-pandemic, based on controlled media opinions.  Thinking of Dr. Robert Malone.  They won't even touch what he is actually saying because they've been told he DIDN'T invent mRNA tech, yet his name is on 8 of the patents.

When first read about mass hypnosis and brainwashing, I thought the brainwashing term went a bit too far, but wow, I see it in full force here.  It's disturbing.

Some of these people will literally believe anything in MSM.  They don't check that out.

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5 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

No, an intelligent reader would have realized it was an allegation on social media meant to encourage discussion. You know...like it did on this discussion board.

An allegation with no proof or support or even proper explanation is worthless.  Making baseless allegations to "encourage discussion" is an imbecilic endeavor.  You're talking about make-believe rubbish, but when the sweaty conspiracy LARPers get together and repeat their clownworld made up bullshit to each other enough times, all of the sudden it doesn't seem made up anymore.  You've heard it from dozens of other fools on a dozen other discussion boards, and since you've already turned off your skepticism filters, it's easy for you to jump down that rabbit hole of nonsense.  

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7 hours ago, Goddess said:

Actually, you quickly googled a rebuttal and posted whatever it said.

I've actually read 2 books and numerous articles about Duesberg.

We are not the same.

Oh I think that's a fair assessment.  We're not even on the same planet.  Dr. Duesberg is most noted for denying that HIV causes AIDS, and this is the wise sage whose literature you're consuming.  

The shoe certainly fits.  

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Once tech made remote work and learning possible, lockdowns and restrictions on movement became viable as a form of social engineering like never before.  Add automation and pandemic fear factor and now you have the justification to keep people at home.  They can be fed, educated, and productive in a virtual sense.  The factories are mostly automated, so are the distribution centres (e.g. Amazon).

No one is starving or being beaten.  In fact it can be sold as ethical.  “Sacrifice for the greater good.  Bend the curve.”   Once in a while let the useless eaters out of their cages as dogs are allowed to roam in an off-leash park. With drones and self-driving vehicles, even deliveries can be automated.  If people get too antsy, ridicule them on social media as reckless, selfish safety risks.  If people get too depressed, we have assisted suicide.  If people start agitating politically through social media, ban them from sites or simply outlaw their content as spreading falsehood.  The upside for climate is lower greenhouse gas emissions and carbon footprints as the birth rate plummets and people die because of various forms of neglect.

Governments can issue enough universal basic income to keep people stupefied by drugs, alcohol, tv, and film (especially porn).  Slam the former liberal democracy that once ruled the land as colonial and oppressive.  Strip away religion and family as oppressive forms of patriarchy, sexism, and racism. Instil pandemic fear before holidays and opportunities to gather.  Make the population feel guilty for wanting to spend time with parents, children, and loved ones.  Maintain masking to help reduce human connection and individuality. Dehumanize people. Let data and algorithms drive all decisions based on the goals of reducing carbon footprints (humanity) and ensuring public safety (keeping people apart).  Set up the automated systems and press start (the A.I. revolution Hariri described).  Use digital vaccine passports and government-issued travel apps to track movements and ensure compliance with public health measures.  No compliance means no employment or income.

How far away is our current “pandemic” state from the totalitarian dystopia I just described?

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