January 6, 2021 and The Big Lie

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

The budding Marxists with their 'fresh' ideas are never sure what to do about the new Stalin lurking in wait. Sure they talk tough...about how they can control such a beast. Their Luca Brasi...

But Joseph isn't Luca...turns out.

The budding Marxists are nothing more than a bunch of overly pampered kids, who've learned to hate the nation which pampered them. IMO of course.

They don't even consider the effort it took to make North America what it is. They just wanna tear it all down, in an exhibition of blind-assed fury, with no reasonable idea how to Build Back Better. Just sell out to the Corporate Socialists and promote some notion of a 'Holy Change' that will somehow wash away everything they think is wrong with the world.

If these nonses ever get what they want...the next thing we'll hear from them will be;

"But we didn't know this was gonna happen."

[Colin Norris]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...ya...Trump's shitting himself...lol.

Do you never tire of lying? It's now well established that only Ashli Babbit died at the capital on January 6th. Do you have no shame?

The final total was 5 and you know it. Don't try to be clever. You don't have the smarts. 

That twit DA in New York is gonna be destroyed. Trump will either be the next POTUS or he will choose who will be.

Trump is asking the people who voting him out to reinstate him. Are you that dumb to think that will happen. Remember, if you didn't vote him in, you cannot vote him out. Hope was never a good contraceptive and it won't work now. 

Trump will not decide who is the president. The GOP are slowly shoving him aside which is why he is bellowing. Fox have cut him.loose.  you need to read more. 

Pelosi will stick her tail between her legs and slink away to retirement. People like Schiff will too or be made a joke. The RINOs like Cheyney will be primaried ad dispatched.

Pelosi should have retired years ago but she had to deal with trump the idiot. She did.  Twice. 

You hate Cheney because she confirmed trump was a liar and confirmed the election  result. That is, you only want a party of liars.  She tells the truth and you hate her. You have some weird values. 

Hell even the DNC knows Biden is unelectable. So now they float dragging Hillary-Billary out of the padded room she lives in.

Lol...its so much fun to watch.

What you really mean is you thought he was unelectable and he ground trump into the ground in one go. It really hurt but your still prophesing your wishes. Grow up.  You have no idea what the DNC have in mind. Here's a clue, Biden  has already confirmed he will be standing in 2024. Who do You think the DNC will be supporting. 

You're youthful ignorance and arrogance mixed with you near total delusion about politics is showing. This laughing and enjoy watching scenario you suggest you enjoy is rubbish. You know nothing and never will. Making lightnof me won't work dopey. You will leave this debate before me. Every time you reply I get another whack at you.  Have another go. 

 

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, Colin Norris said:

 

OK I'm game if you are. But remember...other people do read this stuff. Jus' sayin'...

The final total? Good gravy man! Two people died at that riot. One was a drug overdose apparently. Why is that so hard for you to admit? See...this is what I mean when I say..."other people do read this stuff".

Liz Cheney confirmed nothing but her own hatred for Trump. That and her affection for cry-babies like Adam Kinzinger. She's out already. Adam is too.

Hillary-Billary Clinton For President!

Ho hooo...I can hardly wait.

 

BTW...will you PLEASE learn to use the quote function?

 

Edited January 13, 2022 by Nationalist

[Colin Norris]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

OK I'm game if you are. But remember...other people do read this stuff. Jus' sayin'...

The final total? Good gravy man! Two people died at that riot. One was a drug overdose apparently. Why is that so hard for you to admit? See...this is what I mean when I say..."other people do read this stuff".

Liz Cheney confirmed nothing but her own hatred for Trump. That and her affection for cry-babies like Adam Kinzinger. She's out already. Adam is too.

Hillary-Billary Clinton For President!

Ho hooo...I can hardly wait.

 

Again, the final total was five. Why is it so hard for YOU to admit it? 

Cheney had every reason to condemn trump for his lies and actions. She was proven right. You hate her because she told the truth, something that was apparently foreign to you. 

Is that how you treat honest  reliable members? It makes me wonder just how far other gophers will go to toe  the party line. The party is full of spivs and tintookies. 

Very weird indeed. 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Colin Norris said:

Again, the final total was five. Why is it so hard for YOU to admit it? 

Cheney had every reason to condemn trump for his lies and actions. She was proven right. You hate her because she told the truth, something that was apparently foreign to you. 

Is that how you treat honest  reliable members? It makes me wonder just how far other gophers will go to toe  the party line. The party is full of spivs and tintookies. 

Very weird indeed. 

Dude...you really need to know when you're making an ass of yourself. Really. I'm trying to give you good advise now.

Liz Cheney was/is right...about what then? What has Liz Cheney said about Jan 6th and/or Donald Trump, that actually holds water? Spell it out.

"spivs and tintookies" Huh?

[dialamah]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The final total? Good gravy man! Two people died at that riot.

Five died in total:  A cop, sprayed in the face with bear spray and hit with a fire extinguisher; a Trump supporter who was shot by police; one from a heart attach; one from a drug overdose; one from a stroke.  Two cops committed suicide as a result of the riot.  One hundred and forty police officers were injured, including one with a brain injury.  Some of the officers will be dealing with their injuries for the rest of their lives. Downplaying the violence and loss of life on that day is wrong.  

[jbander1A]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Oh "Pot/Kettle"!

Look son...I know you're all hot an' bothered by Trump. You're not alone. Apparently TDS is long lasting and must be quite painful. If and when you post something sensible...you know...other than "Q anon"...I'd be delighted to debate and kibitz with ya. But ya post silliness. Make a point that actually sticks to the wall, if you will, and we'll have a real discussion. Until then...

Ya gits wut ya pays fer sonny.

I told you that you are saying nothing which is true , if you don't contribute you are gone, Got it, Say go ahead.

[jbander1A]

5 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

The globalists love that you all are at each others throats over pretty much nothing.

The who , What a hoot!

[jbander1A]

Why is it allowed here to say nothing but insults without contributing anything other then stupid insults , Who in the hell cares what one person thinks of another in a political forum.Throw the fuckers out. You have rules well don't you think contributing something should be one of them.

[Charles Anthony]

Good idea! 

From this point forward, infractions of the forum rules and guidelines will be met with harsh punishment. 

[DogOnPorch]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The budding Marxists are nothing more than a bunch of overly pampered kids, who've learned to hate the nation which pampered them. IMO of course.

They don't even consider the effort it took to make North America what it is. They just wanna tear it all down, in an exhibition of blind-assed fury, with no reasonable idea how to Build Back Better. Just sell out to the Corporate Socialists and promote some notion of a 'Holy Change' that will somehow wash away everything they think is wrong with the world.

If these nonses ever get what they want...the next thing we'll hear from them will be;

"But we didn't know this was gonna happen."

 

They were as well in both France & Russia...young and full of great big ideas for fixing society. The thing that they never seem to plan-on is that there is ALWAYS a Stalin waiting to use their pretty ideas against them. No exceptions. It's just the law of the jungle in a moment of chaos...Stalin just does what Stalin does...you're weak...he and his thugs are strong. Meet the new boss.

[Nationalist]

51 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

I told you that you are saying nothing which is true , if you don't contribute you are gone, Got it, Say go ahead.

Gone???

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

They were as well in both France & Russia...young and full of great big ideas for fixing society. The thing that they never seem to plan-on is that there is ALWAYS a Stalin waiting to use their pretty ideas against them. No exceptions. It's just the law of the jungle in a moment of chaos...Stalin just does what Stalin does...you're weak...he and his thugs are strong. Meet the new boss.

The trick is to find strength with honour. I think Carter was honourable...but he was weak. Reagan was fairly honorable...except the whole Iran/Contra thing. He had a sort of howdy-doody strength too.

Trump has strength. Honour? I think the court is still out on that one. We wiil find out though it looks like.

[dialamah]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Trump has strength.

I've always thought of Trump as having bluster and bravado rather than strength.  Despite his accomplishments, he comes across to me as weak.  

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The trick is to find strength with honour. I think Carter was honourable...but he was weak. Reagan was fairly honorable...except the whole Iran/Contra thing. He had a sort of howdy-doody strength too.

Trump has strength. Honour? I think the court is still out on that one. We wiil find out though it looks like.

 

We'd be kidding ourselves to think any particular modern career politician has anything resembling honour. I like to assume the worst...be it with Larry Elder or Hillary Clinton. Then they might actually surprise and delight me.

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I've always thought of Trump as having bluster and bravado rather than strength.  Despite his accomplishments, he comes across to me as weak.  

I think he makes strong decisions. However the decision might be precluded with a lot of marble-mouth junk.

[dialamah]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I think he makes strong decisions. However the decision might be precluded with a lot of marble-mouth junk.

Can you give me some examples of what you consider strong decisions he's made?  Were they decisions that were actually good for the US or the citizens, or more directed toward appeasing/appealing to his base?

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

We'd be kidding ourselves to think any particular modern career politician has anything resembling honour. I like to assume the worst...be it with Larry Elder or Hillary Clinton. Then they might actually surprise and delight me.

I worked for "the feds" canuck style at the beginning of my career. One of my first lessons was...play the game or they'll drum you out.

Which made things really interesting during the referendum. 

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Can you give me some examples of what you consider strong decisions he's made?  Were they decisions that were actually good for the US or the citizens, or more directed toward appeasing/appealing to his base?

Yes. The wall. His refusal to let Russia complete their gas line too.

[DogOnPorch]

I'd say energy independence for the USA with Canadian assistance & benefit...of course. That's all gone, now. 

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'd say energy independence for the USA with Canadian assistance & benefit...of course. That's all gone, now. 

That too...its sad. I think most knew Joe was gonna botch the job. I think he made a deal with Bernie and his rabid pack o' jackals. Poor old fool is simply snookered. Ah well...this too can be repaired. 

I actually don't think Trump should run again. The left would have a millenial freak-out and oppose everything and anything again. There are options.

Don't get me wrong though. I'd fully enjoy the theater of another Trump presidency. 

[dialamah]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Yes. The wall. His refusal to let Russia complete their gas line too.

The wall never got completed and would have been useless anyway, cause Planes and Boats.  People find ways.  And wasn't the gas line completed last September?  Of course that was after Trump left office, but in any case it would have been Germany or Russia cancelling it, not Trump.

There was something he did that I thought was a good idea but darned if I can remember what it was.  

[dialamah]

15 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'd say energy independence for the USA with Canadian assistance & benefit...of course. That's all gone, now. 

Actually I agree with that as a goal.  

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, dialamah said:

The wall never got completed and would have been useless anyway, cause Planes and Boats.  People find ways.  And wasn't the gas line completed last September?  Of course that was after Trump left office, but in any case it would have been Germany or Russia cancelling it, not Trump.

There was something he did that I thought was a good idea but darned if I can remember what it was.  

Well...we disagree on the wall. It needs to be finished.

I sense you don't appreciate Trump. That's fine. Was it the bluster or the policies 

[dialamah]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Well...we disagree on the wall. It needs to be finished.

I sense you don't appreciate Trump. That's fine. Was it the bluster or the policies 

You are correct, I do not appreciate Trump.  I didn't like his character on The Apprentice but it wasn't till I saw him as President that I realized The Apprentice was him, not a character created to get views.  

To me, most of his policies seemed driven by pique and expediency than any real plan or goal. .   But I don't mind finding out what other people saw as good policy, especially now that he's gone.

Out of pure curiosity, did he do anything you disagreed with?