Michael Hardner Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: 1. Now you're being silly. Support of the press is a conservative trait? Have you been paying attention these last 6 or 7 years? 1. Yes. Conservatives support our freedoms and the institutions that make us free. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Yes. Conservatives support our freedoms and the institutions that make us free. Hmmm...so when the press becomes a political tool...your ok with that? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Hmmm...so when the press becomes a political tool...your ok with that? No, but that hasn't happened yet. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted December 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) What colour is the Communist flag? Red or partly red. What is the colour of the Liberal Party of Canada? Red What is the flag from the old USSR (now Russia)? What is the flag of Communist China? What is the flag of North Korea? What is the flag of Angola? What is the flag of Cuba? Finally, what is the flag of Canada and is there any similarity to the Communist flags? Red symbolizes blood and the Communists have killed about 100 million people in the 20th century. Edited December 31, 2021 by blackbird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 OMG I just learned MAGA hats are Communist. ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: No, but that hasn't happened yet. yes it has the government bribes the press with subsidies obvious political tool is obvious 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: No, but that hasn't happened yet. Oh? There are quite a number of treatments available. How often does the press tell you about them? Do you hear or read how many deaths Omicron has caused? Or do you have to go looking for that data? The press needs a good spanking for its willingness to propagate fear and selectively report only that which causes concern and fear. 1 2 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Oh? There are quite a number of treatments available. How often does the press tell you about them? Do you hear or read how many deaths Omicron has caused? Or do you have to go looking for that data? The press needs a good spanking for its willingness to propagate fear and selectively report only that which causes concern and fear. I get good information on this topic. I suspect that you are prone to believing in conspiracy theories. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: I get good information on this topic. I suspect that you are prone to believing in conspiracy theories. I suspect on this...you are giving the press a pass...for some reason... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I suspect on this...you are giving the press a pass...for some reason... As I say, I am Conservative so I understand the utility of our institutions. No anonymous YouTube video can replace them. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: As I say, I am Conservative so I understand the utility of our institutions. No anonymous YouTube video can replace them. Well then...you must be an expert. I just took a look at both CTV and CBC. Both ran case numbers. Neither reported on deaths. I have no trust left for our media. They are indeed complicit in spreading undue fear. Tell me...while the media promotes jabs for kids under 12, have they told you the real death rate of that age group in Canada? Edited December 31, 2021 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: 1. Well then...you must be an expert. 2. I just took a look at both CTV and CBC. Both ran case numbers. Neither reported on deaths. 3. I have no trust left for our media. They are indeed complicit in spreading undue fear. 4. Tell me...while the media promotes jabs for kids under 12, have they told you the real death rate of that age group in Canada? 1. If you think that, then you don't understand how institutions work. 2. I'm pretty sure that I can find the information. I listen to CBC radio all the time, and they're reporting on deaths and hospitalizations. 3. If you respond to information by becoming afraid, that's your issue not 'the media's 4. I have no idea, but I'll bet you have an obscure source that wants to explain it all to the evil pharmaceutical companies. This is a far left tactic: to impugn the profit motive at all costs. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. If you think that, then you don't understand how institutions work. 2. I'm pretty sure that I can find the information. I listen to CBC radio all the time, and they're reporting on deaths and hospitalizations. 3. If you respond to information by becoming afraid, that's your issue not 'the media's 4. I have no idea, but I'll bet you have an obscure source that wants to explain it all to the evil pharmaceutical companies. This is a far left tactic: to impugn the profit motive at all costs. OMG! I am so sorry. I mistook you for a person of reason and clear thought. But your either a shill, or a blank slate. My deepest apologies Sir. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, Nationalist said: My deepest apologies Sir. Apology accepted, please enjoy your far left YouTube channels.. ignore list Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Apology accepted, please enjoy your far left YouTube channels.. ignore list Lol...far left...lol. Have a nice morning. Lol... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. If you think that, then you don't understand how institutions work. 2. I'm pretty sure that I can find the information. I listen to CBC radio all the time, and they're reporting on deaths and hospitalizations. 3. If you respond to information by becoming afraid, that's your issue not 'the media's 4. I have no idea, but I'll bet you have an obscure source that wants to explain it all to the evil pharmaceutical companies. This is a far left tactic: to impugn the profit motive at all costs. Nice deflection Michael . . . . . predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: As I say, I am Conservative so I understand the utility of our institutions. No anonymous YouTube video can replace them. no real conservative would shill for institutions that subvert the very causes they are supposed to champion a real conservative would call the institutions out for becoming orwellian clusterfucks instead of pretending everything is fine and the institutions haven't jumped the shark institutions only deserve loyalty if they are doing their job, not when they are out to undermine western civilization you should be pushing for an institutional Renaissance but you are shilling for a communist takeover that has become the status quo reformation > sale of indulgences quit siding with the wrong team Edited December 31, 2021 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) On 12/30/2021 at 8:26 PM, Michael Hardner said: OMG I just learned MAGA hats are Communist. ? Why do you shill for Communism and Marxism's influence in Canada? You will know the so-called Charter of Rights and the Not Withstanding Clause was brought in by former PM PIerre Elliot Trudeau, a known Communist sympathizer, who loved to visit Communist countries and was a close friend of Fidel Castro. He shunned our traditional allies. He also made visits to Communist China and was the first western leader to give full diplomatic recognition to Communist China in 1970. Since then, Communist China has become Canada's second largest trading partner and Canada now has deep ties with China. All this happened under mainly liberal governments, with some help by blind conservative governments in the short times they were in office. You know or should know that the Supreme Court has been stacked with liberal-oriented judges and they are the ones who make the final decisions on what the Charter of Rights means in any particular case. All this means is the so-called Charter of Rights is writing on a piece of paper rights which Canadians for the most part already had and believed they were inalienable rights. Now writing them down and giving the Supreme Court the final say means we only have rights that they grant us and they can be denied or changed at the will of the liberal-dominated SCC. So essentially the state, through a liberal-appointed SCC, now decrees what rights we have and politicians like Trudeau can get up and pontificate on rights as if he is the sole arbiter of rights, when in fact, basic human rights come from God, the Biblical God of whom Trudeau does not appear to acknowledge or follow. Marxism also does not recognize or follow the Biblical God by whom all things exist and under his dominion. There is a strong similarity between the anti-God stance of liberalism and the atheist stance of Marxism. When there is no fear of God, there is tyranny and totalitarianism. That they have in common. Edited January 1, 2022 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 China is what one could really describe as a national socialist system but for obvious reasons such a term is not used. Yet, the system is strongly centrally-led mixture of ultra-capitalism and state-led economy with huge nationalistic priority and of course a strong belief that they are superior to the rest of the world. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) One of the characteristics of Communism or Marxism is it's belief in the intervention in society to an unlimited extent. That means the Marxist or Communist system has no limits on what they can do with regard to individual citizens or citizen's rights in society if the Marxists believe they are acting in the interests of the common good (which in reality means the state or party's own interests). Ultimately this leads to the denial of personal freedoms such as freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and freedom of beliefs. There is nothing sacred that Marxist governments cannot control or regulate. Historically, Canada and western countries were Judeo-Christian nations whose laws were based on the historic Biblical teachings such as the ten commandments. From these Judeo-Christian beliefs flowed human rights, respect for the individual, and the development of democracy since the time of the Magna Carta. In the last 50 years or so, Canada has become more of an anti-Judeo Christian nation and has adopted a multicultural stance which gives equal status to all religions or no religion. No religion is secularism which is diametrically opposed to the historic Christian belief system. Many Canadians applaud this and claim the phrase separation of church and state. The problem is Christian values such as human rights can never be separate from Judeo-Christianity because that is where human rights originated. Secularism means in theory no religion, but there cannot be any such thing because man's relationship with his fellow man always has been guided by a belief in an accountability to a higher power, i.e. to God. If you take God out of the equation, all you have left is man's reasoning or whatever man decrees as any given time as the guide for rights and laws. That is what secular humanism is. It is based purely on man's ideas. There is therefore no solid foundation for society. An example of the consequences of this multiculturalism or secular humanism are some of the rulings from the Supreme Court of Canada. Some of the rulings from the SCC to do with search and arrest have been reasonable but others rejected the historic belief in the sanctity of human life as in the abortion question. The SCC went completely against historic Judeo-Christian beliefs and the Bible when they ruled a woman's right to do what she wants with her own body is all that matters. They have rejected the unborn as human with the right to life. Then more recently they ruled that individual's have the right to choose doctor-assisted dying, again rejecting the historic Judeo-Christian belief in the sanctity of life and that nobody has the right to take another's life except in certain limited circumstances such as police work or a nation's right to defend itself in time of war and in capital punishment for murder. Examples of rulings from the Supreme Court of Canada are summarized here: Examples of Charter-related cases (justice.gc.ca) You will notice also that the SCC interpretation of the Charter gives refugees and those who do not hold Canadian citizenship the same rights as Canadians in some cases. Edited January 1, 2022 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Respect for individual rights and freedoms didn't flow from the church and religion, but from enlightenment philosophy, and writers who saw the damage of the religious wars. They hypothesized the type of state that became the USA. All of the developments in the relationship between state and religion that are described here have played out more or less similarly in Western Democracies. Your post mixes other things up, like equating humanism with multiculturalism. Maybe Google about The Enlightenment, philosophy like Rousseau.. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Respect for individual rights and freedoms didn't flow from the church and religion, but from enlightenment philosophy, and writers who saw the damage of the religious wars. nope enlightenment philosophy was invented by mostly religious people living in religious societies and Christian ones at that pretending otherwise is ahistorical atheism is not responsible for freedom quite the opposite historically speaking Edited January 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 To answer the OP question, Canada allows itself to be influenced by China because Stephen Harper inexplicably locked us in the position where that is a necessary economic reality for the next 25 or so years. https://canadians.org/analysis/harper-sneaks-through-canada-china-fipa-locks-canada-31-years 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, BubberMiley said: To answer the OP question, Canada allows itself to be influenced by China because Stephen Harper inexplicably locked us in the position where that is a necessary economic reality for the next 25 or so years. https://canadians.org/analysis/harper-sneaks-through-canada-china-fipa-locks-canada-31-years I’ve already debunked this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, Shady said: I’ve already debunked this nonsense. But it was too hard to express in words? 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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