Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, myata said: It's good that you are not saying it (any longer, so facts help). Now, what was the justification for forced or mandatory vaccination, again? I’ve never said it. It does however reduce their ability to transmit it because much of the viral matter they expel is less infectious because it has been neutralized by their immune system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) Some people are immune to Covid: the asymptomatic. Edited December 8, 2021 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, WestCanMan said: Lol. You were like a drowning man grasping at straws now. I can’t believe that you didn’t give up on your stupid, indefensible argument. I can’t believe that you can’t understand the regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: Some people are immune to Covid, the asymptotic. They show no symptoms, they are still infected and can pass it along because their body is producing the virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: True, but we have no immunity to this virus. Vitamin D and zinc won’t protect you from measles, rubella, shingles, hepatitis, or a myriad of other viral diseases and it never protected anyone from smallpox before vaccines made it dissapear. Yes you do have immunity. If you’ve been vaccinated you have immunity. If you’re immune system is strong, even better. Your immune system fights of virus that you have no immunity all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, myata said: It's good that you are not saying it (any longer, so facts help). Now, what was the justification for forced or mandatory vaccination, again? Aristides is over 70 so he feels like children should take the risk of getting the vaccine just to keep him safe. That’s what you’re dealing with. There’s no empathy, common sense or logic to deal with here, it’s purely a selfish, emotional issue for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, Aristides said: I’m also not stupid enough to think vitamin D will protect me from a virus for which I have no immunity other than from vaccines. Maybe read some of the studies. Deaths from covid involve people with terribly low Vit.D. Increasing your Vit. D intake is not a 100% guarantee against getting covid, but then, neither is the vax, apparently. And increasing your Vit. D is not expensive, easy to do and won't kill you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: I can’t believe that you can’t understand the regulation. I completely understand the regulation. This is a testing ground for this new law which is designed to put more pressure on the unvaccinated. If it goes off successfully in New Brunswick then other provinces will start instituting the exact same draconian bullshit laws just to protect weak and selfish people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Shady said: Yes you do have immunity. If you’ve been vaccinated you have immunity. If you’re immune system is strong, even better. Your immune system fights of virus that you have no immunity all the time. Exactly, the only immunity to this virus is from vaccination or infection. The first is safe, the second is a crap shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: They are if they don’t maintain physical distancing rules, which might mean they have to reduce the number of customers they can have in their store at any one time. So? Aren't you retired? You got all the time in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, WestCanMan said: I completely understand the regulation. This is a testing ground for this new law which is designed to put more pressure on the unvaccinated. If it goes off successfully in New Brunswick then other provinces will start instituting the exact same draconian bullshit laws just to protect weak and selfish people. Physical distancing rules aren’t just about maintaining two metre separation, the number of people you can have in your store is directly related to its square footage. Apparently you don’t understand. I don’t dispute that one of the reasons for this is to encourage more people to get vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accountability Now Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Aristides said: I’m in my mid seventies. That alone justifies you needing the vaccine but don't think just because you need it, everyone else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Aristides is over 70 so he feels like children should take the risk of getting the vaccine just to keep him safe. That’s what you’re dealing with. Well, not really, he already agreed that vaccination does not stop infection so it wouldn't keep him safe. So it has to be that he just feels it, like our health gurus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, Goddess said: So? Aren't you retired? You got all the time in the world. Yup and yes but why would I stand outside a store freezing my ass off to accomodate antivaxxers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, Aristides said: Yup and yes but why would I stand outside a store freezing my ass off to accomodate antivaxxers. You won't do that, but you demand 12 year olds risk heart attacks and convulsions and life in a wheelchair with a feeding tube for YOU? WOW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 So the new and latest word in public policy (and please, show where it's wrong): "We feel so you do". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, myata said: Well, not really, he already agreed that vaccination does not stop infection so it wouldn't keep him safe. So it has to be that he just feels it, like our health gurus. My seven year old grand daughter just got her first shot and she thinks you are a whuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 I swear to gawd these vaccines are affecting the part of people's brains that give the ability to reason with empathy and compassion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: You won't do that, but you demand 12 year olds risk heart attacks and convulsions and life in a wheelchair with a feeding tube for YOU? WOW I’m not demanding anything other than you live with the consequences of your own decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: Exactly, the only immunity to this virus is from vaccination or infection. The first is safe, the second is a crap shoot. No, it’s not a crap shoot. You’re still ignoring the data. But you do have immunity in that you’re immune system resists and fight any virus. You have stronger immunity with vaccines and even stronger immunity if you’ve recovered from the virus. Btw, a crap shoot isn’t 99.6+%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: My seven year old grand daughter just got her first shot and she thinks you are a whuss That's the kind of an "argument" health gurus make, after pumping innocent, incapable yet of evaluating information and making this type of decisions children, with no (see facts above) real benefits anywhere in sight. Just because someone somewhere feels or some model showed something. Shameful. And by the way, this isn't just reminiscent of the N-thing, but actually is it, the same old thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 This has done one thing: give folks a chance to channel their inner Nazi and let it fly free. Already, we've taken discrimination to new heights that would make a KKK wizard blush. Not just get to the back of the bus...get off the bus you diseased piece of subhuman filth. Sound about right? I think so. Anyways...I see folks all patting themselves on the back, trying to make their collective fascism more palatable. Meanwhile, fun fact, we're quickly crossing off the actual waypoints towards real genocide. 1. CLASSIFICATION 2. SYMBOLIZATION 3. DEHUMANIZATION 4. ORGANIZATION 5. POLARIZATION 6. PREPARATION 7. EXTERMINATION 8. DENIAL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Trust me Goddess, you ain’t Anne Frank. Whilst an eagle soars, it still $h!#s everywhere. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: Whilst an eagle soars, it still $h!#s everywhere. ? It's surprising how many feel that concentration camps as seen in Australia & New Zealand are the way to go. You know...as long as they get to play camp guard and not the inmates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 I suppose the bliss of fascism is thinking that they'd NEVER come for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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