Omicron variant in Canada.

[Infidel Dog]

6 hours ago, dialamah said:

Out of a total population of about 8.5 million, roughly one in 753 Quebecers have lost their lives after contracting the virus.

Highest death rate in the country.  Now I see why.

No, you don't but no problem. I'll tell you.

I don't follow Quebec politics but I imagine it's run by more Progressive Socialists like the Progressive Socialists of New York and Michigan. I suspect that because they all did the same thing. They shipped covid patients out of the Hospitals into long term homes. As a result one out of ten of them in Quebec died. 

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as of June 30, 2020, about 70% of those who died from COVID-19 in Québec were living in long-term care facilities or had been on a hospital long-term care unit. These places are intended for people with serious physical and cognitive problems and reduced autonomy, putting them in a very vulnerable position.”

One of the shocking findings from the reports coming out of Quebec, including the Ombudsman's report, and the testimonies from coroner's inquest, is the fact that between mid-March and late March 2020, in an attempt to free up space in hospitals for the anticipated 35.000 COVID patients, Quebec government transferred patients from hospitals to long-term care homes, adding more burden of responsibility to a system that had enormous staffing shortages, lacked PPE and knowledge of infection prevention and control, and was already struggling to provide humane care, and often giving morphine to its elderly patients “rather than treat COVID-19." Such failures prompted the deployment of a thousand military personnel into long-term care homes.

https://www.rebelnews.com/quebec_conservative_party_leader_blasts_quebec_govt_over_human_tragedy_at_long-term_care_homes

But I kind of get your point Di. Why do Quebecers vote so badly. It's that little socialist belt that extends in from central  Ontario. They gave us Trudeau too.

Edited December 1, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[blackbird]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Lol citizen, you finally gave up on your lie that the jab stops covid, so that's at least some progress.

FYI your 60% stat includes 12-17 yr olds, 18-24 yr olds, and 25-39 yr olds. Those age groups are unimportant in the "covid deaths" discussion because the very vast majority of covid deaths are in the 70+ category. 

 

The younger age groups say below 60 or 70 are big spreaders though, which you have not admitted.  Many of them go everywhere, mix with other people in bars, restaurants, gyms, stores, share meals, and social gatherings everywhere.  Many do not physically distance or follow the health guidelines.  This is especially so in the U.S. where there are huge numbers of new cases every day and many deaths.  They have a lower death rate than older people but they spread it to older people in their families and relatives, who then get serious illness and some die.  So just saying it is mainly the 70+ who die is true but it leaves out the other half of the story.

[myata]

Yet another therapy has been approved for Covid complications: Merck (molnipiravir, 30% risk reduction). This is in addition to earlier remdesivir and paxlovid (89% efficacy). Not to mention potential treatments like invermectin, a cheap and safe medicine with decades of clinical practice that need to be evaluated in an objective, transparent and credible process.  I predict that in some months, years and variants the rational part of the world will come back to senses, that is, the trilateral integral strategy based on: inform, protect, help. Protect the vulnerable, best help to those who need it (in the best facilities run effectively and efficiently), honest and accurate information to the society. That continues normal life, as much as possible.

One can also predict that this country will be among the last in that. Why wouldn't it? Who needs the reason and reality here and who would benefit from returning to them?

Edited December 1, 2021 by myata

[taxme]

On 11/29/2021 at 12:51 PM, WestCanMan said:

The Delta Plus Rewards Variant!!!!! Lol, I love it. 

Variant scariant viruses by the dozens are everywhere. There is no where to hide anymore. ?

[taxme]

On 11/30/2021 at 4:10 PM, blackbird said:

I don't see any sign of Covid-19 disappearing anytime soon.  As long as we have billions of people on the planet who are unvaccinated, why would it disappear?  I have also heard an expert say he expects another virus to appear after this one.  Even with large percentages of people vaccinated, the virus still seems to spread.  The vaccines are not 100% effective in stopping it.  So life may never be the same as it was before this pandemic started may be the hard truth.  Who knows, this could have been deliberate by China's CCP.  Watched an incredible video on youtube about the situation with China.  

This is Part 1 of a two part video.  I watched Part 2 today which was quite an eye-opener.  Should be able to find Part 2 after Part 1.

 

We can get rid of this covid virus madness once and for all. All we the peasants have to do is just stop listening to the those fear mongering lying politicians, the lying media, and those so called lying health experts and health ministers, whom by the way, are no doubt in some way on the big pharma globalist payroll. There has to be something in there for those pathetic liars. 

It's not about any virus at all and it never was. It was used to conflict pain and sorrow on we the peasants and to wreck and ruin our lives forever. It's was more about making plenty of money, and be able to implement communist like power and control over we the stupid peasants who keep listening to those psychopathic commie liars.

Wake up, all you dummy peasants out there. Refuse the booster jabs, and demand an end to all of this covid medical tyranny madness. Just say, I am not going to take it anymore. They cannot put 37 million people in the gulag. ?

[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, blackbird said:

The younger age groups say below 60 or 70 are big spreaders though, which you have not admitted.  Many of them go everywhere, mix with other people in bars, restaurants, gyms, stores, share meals, and social gatherings everywhere.  Many do not physically distance or follow the health guidelines.  This is especially so in the U.S. where there are huge numbers of new cases every day and many deaths.  They have a lower death rate than older people but they spread it to older people in their families and relatives, who then get serious illness and some die.  So just saying it is mainly the 70+ who die is true but it leaves out the other half of the story.

Go to the blackboard and write: "People with the vaccination still spread covid" twenty times.

As of right now there's there's not a single vax-Nazi on earth who has made the case for vaccinating children and young, healthy adults.

 

[WestCanMan]

On the BC1 propaganda channel here in BC they were really pimping the kiddie jab yesterday.

They were also showing videos of kids getting it and they showed a little girl talking about how getting the vaccine was better than getting covid. I really hate that they're using little brainwashed kids to spread their message instead of trying to use facts and meaningful stats.

Bonnie Henry also talking about Christmas gatherings, and saying that unvaccinated family and friends shouldn't be invited. She didn't even think for a second about how stupid she sounded.

"Uhh, if people aren't vaccinated they might spread covid [exactly like the vaccinated people do] so they shouldn't be allowed to come to your family gatherings, where they might give covid to the vaccinated people [why does it matter if the vaccine works, Bonnie?]."

Vax Nazis are the worst.

[myata]

Why do humans always come down to this? Is it 98% primate genes?

[Faramir]

Wow what an over reaction from everyone on a variant that has mild symptoms.  The stock market freaked out.  Our province of BC freaked out.  I thought progressives didn't like other people meddling in our personal lives?  Yet I am being told I must wear a mask to go to Church.  Think about how Orwellian this now is.   Its gone on long enough and it seems like there is no end to the COVID fearmongering and loss of natural liberties as a result.

[Faramir]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

On the BC1 propaganda channel here in BC they were really pimping the kiddie jab yesterday.

They were also showing videos of kids getting it and they showed a little girl talking about how getting the vaccine was better than getting covid. I really hate that they're using little brainwashed kids to spread their message instead of trying to use facts and meaningful stats.

Bonnie Henry also talking about Christmas gatherings, and saying that unvaccinated family and friends shouldn't be invited. She didn't even think for a second about how stupid she sounded.

"Uhh, if people aren't vaccinated they might spread covid [exactly like the vaccinated people do] so they shouldn't be allowed to come to your family gatherings, where they might give covid to the vaccinated people [why does it matter if the vaccine works, Bonnie?]."

Vax Nazis are the worst.

Yes I was giving our authorities the benefit of the doubt for quite some time and not getting worked up.  But this has gone on long enough.  Already it is affecting our personal lives.  My wife's employer told her she is not allowed to throw a Christmas party for our teenagers in our home inviting 16 of their friends.  Just so orwellian.

[Faramir]

20 hours ago, taxme said:

We can get rid of this covid virus madness once and for all. All we the peasants have to do is just stop listening to the those fear mongering lying politicians, the lying media, and those so called lying health experts and health ministers, whom by the way, are no doubt in some way on the big pharma globalist payroll. There has to be something in there for those pathetic liars. 

It's not about any virus at all and it never was. It was used to conflict pain and sorrow on we the peasants and to wreck and ruin our lives forever. It's was more about making plenty of money, and be able to implement communist like power and control over we the stupid peasants who keep listening to those psychopathic commie liars.

Wake up, all you dummy peasants out there. Refuse the booster jabs, and demand an end to all of this covid medical tyranny madness. Just say, I am not going to take it anymore. They cannot put 37 million people in the gulag. ?

I was truly on the fence for these last 2 long years.  I thought "well, this is a pandemic and the government wants to keep everyone safe".  But there is no end to the insanity.  The media takes part by TRYING to scare the masses over variants that really amount to not very much in the end.  They came for us adults. Then for the under 18s.  Now they are moving to jab our under 12 year old children.  The biggest fraud liar of them all though is Anthony Fauci.  I love how Rand Paul takes that even dwarf to the wood shed. 

[Goddess]

20 minutes ago, Faramir said:

Wow what an over reaction from everyone on a variant that has mild symptoms. 

Scientific sources say mild symptoms, but governmental organizations are saying Omicron has these symptoms:

"A number of heart related complications may occur, including heart failure, arrhythmias, heart inflammation and blood clots.  Delusions, strokes, brain hemorrhages, peripheral nerve damage."

Amazingly, these are all also the adverse reactions many are having to the jabs.

I think they are going to use the Omicron variant to cover up vaccine injuries.

[myata]

53 minutes ago, Faramir said:

My wife's employer told her she is not allowed to

The government and the employer always know best for you. This is the great new dawn we waited for so anxiously, writing utopia and apocalypses. And now, at your fingertips.

[Faramir]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Scientific sources say mild symptoms, but governmental organizations are saying Omicron has these symptoms:

"A number of heart related complications may occur, including heart failure, arrhythmias, heart inflammation and blood clots.  Delusions, strokes, brain hemorrhages, peripheral nerve damage."

Amazingly, these are all also the adverse reactions many are having to the jabs.

I think they are going to use the Omicron variant to cover up vaccine injuries.

Well, I don't know about that, but a lot noise on this Omicron.  Even the stock market tanked on its news.  Yet not ONE person was hospitalized apparently in South Africa.

[Faramir]

38 minutes ago, myata said:

The government and the employer always know best for you. This is the great new dawn we waited for so anxiously, writing utopia and apocalypses. And now, at your fingertips.

It's like Fordism.  Henry Ford was a big a progressive who wanted to make sure his employees "lived clean lives".  So he came down hard on those that were drunkards in their own free time.  

What a scary time in which we live.  Still think Fauci is as big a fraud in COVID as Al Gore was on Global Warming.  Even Bonnie Henry doesn't make as many mis statements as that little dwarf.

[Infidel Dog]

1 hour ago, Faramir said:

 I thought progressives didn't like other people meddling in our personal lives?  

Man...who told you that? Was it a "progressive?"

You say you go to church so I guess you know the saying "Know the tree by the fruit it bears."

See if this identifies them for you better.

Progressives or Progs as I like to call them or the Regressive Left as some like to call them or Progressive Socialists, as in progressing towards socialism, are about control. Wash off all the BS and it's all they really want. It's why the corporates are flipping over to that side. It's what they want too. The Islamo-fascist arm of Islamism allies with them too. They all want the same thing. I imagine if they ever manage to take the democratic west down, all of them and China will be fighting it out with each other for the scraps of what's left.

But Progs are not just about meddling in peoples' lives. Ultimately they're about controlling them. And this so-called "Pandemic" has become about breaking society down so they can as their newest lie claims "build back better" or as their newest allies call it, "The Great Reset."

[myata]

Another talking panel tonight with the exsperts jumping over each other how great it is and how absolutely everyone is highly recommended no matter what just because it's sio good.

Asking myself: can it be that with such complex and unprecedented developments, there's no difference of opinions what to do and how to proceed? Personally I find it hard to believe to plain impossibility. And so, three logical options: either the media is controlled; or the people who speak their mind don't go there; or, they wouldn't tell what they really think because of possible repercussions. And in my view, the last options is the stinkiest of all. No you don't have to be there; but if you do, who your responsibility and duty is to?

A long while back, when the masks were discussed a guy ventured an opinion that they can be used intelligently based on the environment, spacing etc. Haven't seen him there since, and around that time began the reign of total and absolute agreement on everything. Like your very own communist party gathering - please find two differences.

Edited December 3, 2021 by myata

[OftenWrong]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Vax Nazis are the worst.

I know and some are among the elderly, and good old boys too. The dumber you are, the more scared you are, and vice versa.

[Faramir]

19 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Man...who told you that? Was it a "progressive?"

You say you go to church so I guess you know the saying "Know the tree by the fruit it bears."

See if this identifies them for you better.

Progressives or Progs as I like to call them or the Regressive Left as some like to call them or Progressive Socialists, as in progressing towards socialism, are about control. Wash off all the BS and it's all they really want. It's why the corporates are flipping over to that side. It's what they want too. The Islamo-fascist arm of Islamism allies with them too. They all want the same thing. I imagine if they ever manage to take the democratic west down, all of them and China will be fighting it out with each other for the scraps of what's left.

But Progs are not just about meddling in peoples' lives. Ultimately they're about controlling them. And this so-called "Pandemic" has become about breaking society down so they can as their newest lie claims "build back better" or as their newest allies call it, "The Great Reset."

Agree 100%.  I recall it was progressives that pushed for prohibition in the USA thinking they knew better than the common Joe and Jill Sixpack.

[myata]

Let's consider an example how information in the news is manipulated, and it's a better one, BBC: Phizer, Moderna best booster.

First we read: "All the vaccines tested raised immunity against Covid to some degree". To some extent, OK. To what extent though?

"Boosters can cut the risk of infection by more than 93%". Wow. Not bad (sounds) but does it agree with flights with numerous infected fully vaccinated passengers? We have to drill down the link to find out that what was meant is not "infections" but "symptomatic disease". Easy to confuse, really? Each one of those infected, passengers, more than 60 on some flights, had a non symptomatic disease. Does it mean that they weren't infected? Can one be tested positive but not infected, in the understanding of the author? Go figure.

Using this terminology repeatedly with "booster" one gets an impression, unless reading very carefully what is actually said, that booster significantly reduces the chance of getting infected. But nothing like that is actually said, only that it increases the response in certain immune cells. Exactly same claims were made for the first round of vaccinations and now we know with certainty that they do not prevent infection and transmission in the community. Can we expect different from the boosters? No, nothing like that is said or indicated.

And so, on the rational and factual level we are left with already known status quo: yes, vaccines offer significant individual protection against severe disease. In some groups of healthy young people this risk is quite low and it has to be up to the individual to decide whether they want extra protection, just like with any extra insurance. Nothing in this data justifies forced, coerced or mandatory vaccinations. Strong and overriding need and benefit to the society as a whole has not been proven, again.

[Faramir]

18 minutes ago, myata said:

Let's consider an example how information in the news is manipulated, and it's a better one, BBC: Phizer, Moderna best booster.

First we read: "All the vaccines tested raised immunity against Covid to some degree". To some extent, OK. To what extent though?

"Boosters can cut the risk of infection by more than 93%". Wow. Not bad (sounds) but does it agree with flights with numerous infected fully vaccinated passengers? We have to drill down the link to find out that what was meant is not "infections" but "symptomatic disease". Easy to confuse, really? Each one of those infected, passengers, more than 60 on some flights, had a non symptomatic disease. Does it mean that they weren't infected? Can one be tested positive but not infected, in the understanding of the author? Go figure.

Using this terminology repeatedly with "booster" one gets an impression, unless reading very carefully what is actually said, that booster significantly reduces the chance of getting infected. But nothing like that is actually said, only that it increases the response in certain immune cells. Exactly same claims were made for the first round of vaccinations and now we know with certainty that they do not prevent infection and transmission in the community. Can we expect different from the boosters? No, nothing like that is said or indicated.

And so, on the rational and factual level we are left with already known status quo: yes, vaccines offer significant individual protection against severe disease. In some groups of healthy young people this risk is quite low and it has to be up to the individual to decide whether they want extra protection, just like with any extra insurance. Nothing in this data justifies forced, coerced or mandatory vaccinations. Strong and overriding need and benefit to the society as a whole has not been proven, again.

LOL.  That is WAY above the heads of the media.  The idea that they put that much thought and analysis in this issue, or any issue, would be great if it were true.  That journalists actually INVESTIGATE an issue.  We already saw with global warming that journalists are just mouth pieces for the luddites who want to take us back to the 1920s.  They are SUPPOSE to employ skepticism, but do not.  Unless Jesus Christ does come back to earth.  THEN since one religion is not better than any other, you can be sure journalists will be doubting Thomases on THAT event.

[Faramir]

Omicron like the COVID condition itself has shown itself as another nothing burger.  Hell, COVID hasn't even stopped the world population from increasing in a single year.  Imagine a REAL crisis.  Like Spanish Flu that wiped out 50 to 100 million (know one knows for sure) when the world population was 1/3rd it is now.  You can bet the only thing we would be missing are the actual jackboots.

[SkyHigh]

On 11/30/2021 at 8:55 PM, Goddess said:

And do you know why there's never been an mRNA vaccine in spite of 10 years of study and trials?

Easy, this is the first pandemic (the reason the platform was developed) since the mrna system has been sufficiently studied 

[SkyHigh]

On 11/30/2021 at 7:10 PM, myata said:

This is a serious question and so shouldn't be oversimplified with indiscriminate propaganda. Given that this is a novel treatment, long term effects even on a limited clinical scale are not known and there are well known examples of serious side effects found after decades of mass clinical practice is it 1) reasonable and 2) responsible and professional to pretend that it's among the safest treatments on the planet and the only possible solution to the pandemics (that it, now obvious, is not)?

Scientific research is neither propaganda or an oversimplification, it isn't a "novel" treatment in the way you're trying to present it (if propaganda is being used it's by you) again not only has it been around for a long time, many of the clinical trails used variations of S.A.R.S viruses not unlike covid 19

[taxme]

On 12/2/2021 at 9:11 AM, WestCanMan said:

On the BC1 propaganda channel here in BC they were really pimping the kiddie jab yesterday.

They were also showing videos of kids getting it and they showed a little girl talking about how getting the vaccine was better than getting covid. I really hate that they're using little brainwashed kids to spread their message instead of trying to use facts and meaningful stats.

Bonnie Henry also talking about Christmas gatherings, and saying that unvaccinated family and friends shouldn't be invited. She didn't even think for a second about how stupid she sounded.

"Uhh, if people aren't vaccinated they might spread covid [exactly like the vaccinated people do] so they shouldn't be allowed to come to your family gatherings, where they might give covid to the vaccinated people [why does it matter if the vaccine works, Bonnie?]."

Vax Nazis are the worst.

We do have a real and true scary variant going around here in BC these days. It is called the Bonnie Henry scariant variant virus. It needs to be eradicated now before it causes any further harm, especially to our children. our children and grandchildren and they are being lined up to become more guinea pigs and more profit for those scumbag big pharma communist globalists who could careless about our children or grandchildren. It's all about the money, don't you know. ?