You wonder why we're short of nurses (and doctors)

[Faramir]

Also they are very restrictive and won't accept qualifications from other English speaking jurisdictions such as New Zeeland, and Australia.  Those nurses have to almost start over once they get here. 

[Faramir]

On 11/4/2021 at 7:29 AM, Michael Hardner said:

This survey bears out the nursing shortage assessment:

https://www.casn.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/2017-2018-EN-SFS-DRAFT-REPORT-for-web.pdf

Too bad my girls are not interested in medicine.  With boomers aging out (reaching those advanced ages where they require much hospitalization) there is going to be increased demand in medical fields.  For those that have read Children of Men, that is the sort of scenario I see.  Less and less of new generations wanting to get into fields to "wipe the bums" of the aged.

[Faramir]

On 11/4/2021 at 8:51 AM, Argus said:

We do NOT have enough doctors. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many people who can't get a GP and you wouldn't have to wait for months and months to see any specialist or surgeon. We have a much lower number of doctors to population as compared to European countries.

This is because at least here in BC being a GP is a doctor and businessman combined.  You have office costs but are limited in your billing.  Why make $120,000 (before office rent, administrative staff, ect) when you can specialize and make $200,000 pure salary?

[Faramir]

On 11/4/2021 at 10:35 AM, Shady said:

We’re expanding our population at a far greater pace than the ability of gut health care system to produce enough doctors and nurses to compensate.   The ratio of patients per doctors and patients per nurses is growing exponentially.  But the endless unlimited immigration crowd don’t care.  They don’t care about the impact on housing, on the environment, on education, on anything.

You are playing my tune.  At least its not as bad as the USA, with their revolving door of illegals who are unvaccinated and without high enough skills to avoid welfare. 

[Faramir]

On 11/4/2021 at 11:17 AM, Cannucklehead said:

Amazingly that is what the natives said when the colonials arrived (well not exactly, but we all know) and that if it wasn't for immigration I'd probably be living in Europe today. 

Where would you be living today?

Think about it. 

Oh for God's sake.  Different times.  A country exists to only allow immigration if it also benefits the host country.  That is why Japan only lets in 300 to 400 refugees each year and very limited immigration.

[SpankyMcFarland]

The requirements to enter residency training programs are unnecessarily strict and some of the best potential applicants aren’t eligible to apply because they have been out of clinical medicine too long. I have seen this particularly with foreign grads living in Canada who may never work as doctors again. If we had a bigger private healthcare sector we might have less fear of having ‘too many’ physicians billing the system. In my province, something like 20% of patients don’t have a GP and the health hubs designed to fill in the gaps and take the pressure off ERs are just telephone numbers that ring and ring - a typically Canadian pretend solution. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Something else we need to be more honest about; young Canadians don’t want to live in the back of beyond. Most of them prefer cities. In my province a few years ago, one stat buried in a review of medical manpower showed that only 20% of doctors working in smaller towns (under 10,000) were Canadian grads, an incredible statistic if you didn’t know the field. The financial incentives to recruit people to these remoter spots would need to be greatly enhanced but that runs up against medical politics where many of the most highly paid physicians live in the most attractive locations and have no desire to see this state of affairs changing.