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1 minute ago, myata said:

Can it be because in some places, the system exists to work for the society that is, save maximum lives and minimize impact while allowing society live full life, that is an unconditional.

And in other places, it exists to support the ideological dogma of the day. Yes we have seen examples of manipulation of data by public authorities paid for by out tax dollars. They aren't smart pathetic and often ridiculous and unfortunately, tell us very clearly what type of society we are.

All of this is being used to support a narrative or dogma.  If you don't see it then this is the real problem.

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1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said:

I think she already knows. She also knows infections and harms to the vaccinated are rising statistically as vaccine efficacy drops. I've seen it as low as 20% with, I think it was J& J.

I thought she asked why there are fully vaccinated in ICUs…?  If she knew, why do you think she asked?

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Just now, TreeBeard said:

I want to know everything!  

How did the conspirators get every single reputable virologist, epidemiologist, and anyone else who studies diseases in Canada to buy into the COVID hoax?

They didn't. They simply changed the definition of reputable. 

Covid exists. It's the exaggeration of it and the resulting power surges depriving the populace of pre-covid rights and freedoms that is hoaxy.

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4 minutes ago, Spiderfish said:

No, their a tragic failure of government.  And we're not even questioning accountability because we've been assured by them it's not their mismanagement that's to blame.

Can we agree that hospitals have limited capacity to treat emergencies?  Could we ever fund hospitals enough to be prepared for a pandemic that comes along once in a century?    

Could it be a failure of public policy that has allowed COVID cases to overwhelm the limited capacity we have?

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3 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

They didn't. They simply changed the definition of reputable. 

Covid exists. It's the exaggeration of it and the resulting power surges depriving the populace of pre-covid rights and freedoms that is hoaxy.

You think the 28,000 deaths in Canada are exaggerated?  What is the real number?

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4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

I thought she asked why there are fully vaccinated in ICUs…?  If she knew, why do you think she asked?

Maybe she didn't think you knew. Maybe she was checking to see. BTW, you did know the unvaccinated can get and transmit covid, right. 

The clot shot does have therapeutic properties. However, although the side effects are marginalized by the machine that provides information to the gullibles other therapeutics have shown themselves to be much less bothersome.

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2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

You think the 28,000 deaths in Canada are exaggerated?  What is the real number?

28,000 deaths from Covid and not with Covid is not so much exaggerated as it is what you were previously wondering about when you questioned the possibility of hoax.

It's also what Spiderfish was talking about when he noticed how you guys don't seem to notice comorbidities except when you think it might help your argument.

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4 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

28,000 deaths from Covid and not with Covid is not so much exaggerated as it is what you were previously wondering about when you questioned the possibility of hoax.

It's also what Spiderfish was talking about when he noticed how you guys don't seem to notice comorbidities except when you think it might help your argument.

You don’t think there should be any mitigation measures to try and save those with comorbidities, or who are old?

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2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'll give you another example of how the "crisis" of Covid is exaggerated to hoaxy proportions.

The fact something like 90% of fatalities happen in the over 70 age bracket. That matters when you're trying to scare teenagers.

Or even 30 year olds. Or even 69 year olds.

Can a 30 year old pass the virus to an 80 year old?

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3 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'll give you another example of how the "crisis" of Covid is exaggerated to hoaxy proportions.

The fact something like 90% of fatalities happen in the over 70 age bracket. That matters when you're trying to scare teenagers.

Or even 30 year olds. Or even 69 year olds.

90%?

Even if that was true, it wouldn't consider the entire pandemic and not the truth that newer variants effect younger people and that Long Covid is a consideration. 

Death isn't the only negative outcome to consider. 

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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (German: Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen) Karl Marx, 1875.

At $400,000 salary with no risks or responsibility for wrong decisions, does it sound like "according to (all, any, including outrageously luxury) needs"?

Isn't funny / ridiculous that world's best healthcare systems with outstanding results in managing the epidemics are branded "socialist" (buga buga boo!) while what we have here (as summarized above) must be only your good old warm and fuzzy capitalism, not to worry. Sure, work according to ability (and who said those would the the greatest or even adequate and competent abilities?) and get whatever is needed. Not for all though and that's a key difference! And you thought what? How is it called, can you guess?

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On 10/19/2021 at 6:22 AM, EastCanada90 said:

is wearing a mask for  a little bit longer really that big a deal lol?

How much longer would you suggest that we keep wearing masks in Canada? No doubt you are one of those fully vaccinated so it makes no sense to me as to why you have to still wear a mask when you are fully vaccinated. 

While many countries in Europe are getting rid of their covid bull chit restrictions here in Canada we are doing the reverse. Our crazy in the head for power leftist politicians in Canada want to keep this plandemic alive and well for as long as they can do so. And it is people like you that help keep this medical communist mask wearing tyranny going. You are the real problem here, and not me.

We now have acts of discrimination and segregation being allowed and permitted by our so called freedom and rights loving and caring politicians who appear to be trying to take all those rights and freedoms away today. Those people that are not vaccinated are now being treated as second class citizen's and are right now being discriminated and segregated against from society just because they are not vaccinated.

Our comrade politicians are violating our rights and freedoms that are written in the Charter of Rights and Constitution. The Nuremberg Code is being ignored and violated. Every Human Right is being violated. And yet it would appear as though people like you seem to have no problem with it all. Just keep wearing your mask and keep showing your loyal obedience and loyal slavery to your political masters. 

The non vaccinated people here in Canada today are now being treated like the black slaves were in the past. We are being discriminated and segregated against. It's disgusting and deplorable. ?

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Just now, TreeBeard said:

So epidemiologists or virologists are not reputable?  Who should be considered reputable enough to give us information about COVID, if not the people that study and work with diseases?

Epidemiologists or virologists and other experts.

But not just the ones you approve of or the ones that have been pressured into getting in line.

Like the 27 "scientists" who signed the letter to the Lancet assuring anybody who'd listen there was 'nothing to see here' as far as Covid originating in a lab in Wuhan.

Then it turned out:

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Emails obtained by U.S. Right to Know show that a statement in The Lancet authored by 27 prominent public health scientists condemning “conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin” was organized by employees of EcoHealth Alliance, a non-profit group that has received millions of dollars of U.S. taxpayer funding to genetically manipulate coronaviruses with scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

 

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23 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Can we agree that hospitals have limited capacity to treat emergencies?  Could we ever fund hospitals enough to be prepared for a pandemic that comes along once in a century?    

Could it be a failure of public policy that has allowed COVID cases to overwhelm the limited capacity we have?

Could it also be that our health care system had serious foundational problems before Covid ever came along?  This has been the prefect scapegoat for a system that was already facing serious issues for more than the last 2 decades.  No doubt Covid aggravated the problem.  No doubt more could have been done to fortify the system with the hundreds of billions of dollars spent combating the virus in preparation for the inevitable influx.  But more wasn't done.

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Speaking of hoaxes...

Remember when we were told if you took seriously claims that the CCP virus started in any way other than somebody eating bat soup in a wet market that didn't serve it rather than the bio lab up the road you were the victim of a conspiracy theory?

That one's pretty much a conspiracy fact now.

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2 minutes ago, taxme said:

While many countries in Europe are getting rid of their covid bull chit restrictions here in Canada we are doing the reverse. Our crazy in the head for power leftist politicians in Canada want to keep this plandemic alive and well for as long as they can do so.

I tried to stay away from radical terms but one suspicion keeps nagging me. With a $400,000 annual salary would you really want this to end and go back to mundane duties of managing diseases as opposed to being a great leader of a glorious struggle (with double compensation for great efforts)? What do you think, please tell me!

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16 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'll give you another example of how the "crisis" of Covid is exaggerated to hoaxy proportions.

The fact something like 90% of fatalities happen in the over 70 age bracket. That matters when you're trying to scare teenagers.

Or even 30 year olds. Or even 69 year olds.

The question that no one seems to want to answer is why are there so many doctors and nurses not willing to take the covid jabs? There must be a good reason for them to being doing this?

Maybe it is because they have seen the results of many people whom have taken the covid jabs and got seriously ill, maimed or have died from taking the jabs. Those are questions that the MSM refuse to do is ask questions of those doctors and nurses. The MSM ignores them like the plague.

There is no free press in Canada anymore. We only have a bought off leftist liberal media in Canada that follows and takes their orders from our dear comrade leader Castro Trudeau. Canada is so phukd these days. It's so bloody sad. ?

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