Enough is enough. Ban protests outside hospitals.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said:

the law against preventing access to hospitals covers the only utility that banning protests outside of hospitals would provide

so you literally don't have any reason to support such a law, other than

just wanting to crackdown on opinions you don't like because they protest at a location you wish they didn't protest at

nowhere near a good enough justification to restrict speech

Ya but in this case the law they would be breaking is demonstrating too close to hospitals, they wouldn't get an opportunity to obstruct anyone.  It has nothing to do with cracking down on opinions but very much to do with cracking down on selfish  children who put their own wants above the health and welfare of the sick and those who treat them. The great majority are losing patience with this bunch and their tantrums. 

 

 

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[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

How effective are vaccine passports to start with, they can easily reproduced, or faked,  and just how much time do you think some teenager in a restaurant is spending vetting them ? So if they are not very effective why have them....it is a poor plan with many holes in it...once again rushed...

I'm not a specialist in that department...so i can not really say, Niether can you,  but your not suggesting that the approval agency are 100 % effective or have not made any mistake before...like i said i have taken bad medication before that was approved by the same people, and lots of my comrades had very adverse effects...this vaccine was rushed into service, but some how they can't push other life saving drugs through at the same pace....so did they miss something in the rush, nobody knows, you want them to take it on faith...because you did..

Depends on the passport I guess. In BC you go on to the government website and put in your health car number, date of birth and date of one of your vaccinations. It checks the government database to verify your info and issues a QR code specific to you. Black if you have had one shot, green if you have had two. When you go to a restaurant you show them the QR code and they scan it with an app they have downloaded from the government. It authenticates the QR code then you have to show a picture ID to verify that code is yours. Not impossible to fake maybe but not easy either.

I have only used mine in three different places but all of them have checked it properly.

Edited October 6, 2021 by Aristides

[Yzermandius19]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Ya but in this case the law they would be breaking is demonstrating too close to hospitals, they wouldn't get an opportunity to obstruct anyone.  It has nothing to do with cracking down on opinions but very much to do with cracking down on selfish  children who put their own wants above the health and welfare of the sick and those who treat them. The great majority are losing patience with this bunch and their tantrums. 

your losing patience is a stupid reason to restrict rights

the majority thinking it's a good idea is also a stupid reason to restrict rights

you not liking who is being cracked down on doesn't make the crackdown okay

Edited October 6, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

There's a precedent with the G20 protestors being kept miles away from the meetings.  The idea of a security threat was less believable in that context.

[Yzermandius19]

14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

There's a precedent with the G20 protestors being kept miles away from the meetings.  The idea of a security threat was less believable in that context.

that was a bad precedent

a bad precedent hardly justifies setting another bad precedent

Edited October 6, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

a bad precedent hardly justifies setting another bad precedent

Nevertheless, it was done.  So a perimeter ban is legal.  And it's likely politically sustainable also.

Is it right ?  In my mind, definitely.  This is a political protest, they can protest on the legislature grounds - lots of room there.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Nevertheless, it was done.  So a perimeter ban is legal.  And it's likely politically sustainable also.

Is it right ?  In my mind, definitely.  This is a political protest, they can protest on the legislature grounds - lots of room there.

we are not debating whether it is or isn't legal

you have yet to make a case why it is right

other than it's legal and it's popular, or they can just protest somewhere else

which are dumb reasons to restrict rights, particularly speech

if that all you got, then you don't have a good case

and you should not expect people to respect such a poorly thought through opinion as justification to infringe on their rights

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

 you have yet to make a case why it is right

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This is a political protest, they can protest on the legislature grounds - lots of room there.

That's my statement.  I'm not going to go back and forth with you if you don't acknowledge statements.

[Yzermandius19]

38 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

That's my statement.  I'm not going to go back and forth with you if you don't acknowledge statements.

I acknowledged you think they should protest elsewhere

whether or not you like the location of the protest 

is not a good reason to restrict speech

you are not arbiter of who should protest where, nor should you be, that is not your call to make

especially when the basis of your call is so petty and frivolous and your priorities make no sense

Edited October 6, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[myata]

Whole world has moved on already... living life with Covid not life for glorious war of Covid. Not here, no how could we? We slept through two decades of warnings, woke up to travel from Wuhan but now there's the Purpose! No money (taxpayers whose else?) spared, no restriction (however pointless or meaningless) forgotten march, march Canada to the bright new dawn right over the horizon just believe me. A poster as a snapshot not even allegory, year ten: mask on the face, stickers from vaccines on all arms and bums, feathers, tin hat let's defeat it once and for all are you in?

Edited October 6, 2021 by myata

[OftenWrong]

Now is the great undoing of

man and beast

All things must be rolled back

great reset

sad to inform ye

old mikey finnegan

you have to return to the beginning again

but not with a bang, nor with a whimper

but shelves devoid of toilet paper

shelves devoid of toilet paper

this is the sign

great harbinger

bathrooms devoid of toilet paper

[taxesanddeath]

On 10/4/2021 at 8:24 PM, Aristides said:

Health care workers and patients don't get obstructed or hassled. Protest at legislatures and city halls where policy is made. Hospital protesters are making far more enemies than friends.

So, can health care workers protest outside hospitals when they are on strike?

 

Gov't should solve the real problem, c19 vax passport.