Boges Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Just now, Infidel Dog said: That should be obvious. Why isn't it? Why must we keep repeating it? See Alberta's current situation as to why we keep repeating it. ICUs overwhelmed, other healthcare services restricted. IT. KEEPS. HAPPENING. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) I haven't been vaccinated yet I have higher immunity than those who are and I don't get an exemption from these mandates and the vaccinated do that ain't pro-science that's pro-authoritarian nonsense to line big pharma's pockets health got nothing to do with it Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: high risk places of transmission are hospitals, long term care facilities and retirement homes not schools, not bars, not restaurants, not gyms Again, I'm sure you have this data on hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Just now, Boges said: See Alberta's current situation as to why we keep repeating it. ICUs overwhelmed, other healthcare services restricted. IT. KEEPS. HAPPENING. it actually isn't happening they keep sounding the alarm like it will any day now yet it never does fake news city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: it actually isn't happening they keep sounding the alarm like it will any day now yet it never does fake news city So the authorities finally got to Kenney and DoFo? They resisted these passports but finally bowed to pressure, because what? Surely they aren't bound by this fake news? Politically these measures don't help them. Excpect that Passports are politically popular. But they resisted until the numbers told them otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Boges said: See Alberta's current situation as to why we keep repeating it. ICUs overwhelmed, other healthcare services restricted. IT. KEEPS. HAPPENING. These claims usually turn out to be false. I haven't heard the Alberta one yet. Do you have any numbers? Starting with vaccinated versus unvaccinated. I'll need them to rub in your face later when this turns out to be BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Boges said: So the authorities finally got to Kenney and DoFo? They resisted these passports but finally bowed to pressure, because what? Surely they aren't bound by this fake news? Politically these measures don't help them. Excpect that Passports are politically popular. But they resisted until the numbers told them otherwise. these measures clearly help them politically 80% of Canadians support these passport mandates they are easily bound by the fake news Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: These claims usually turn out to be false. I haven't heard the Alberta one yet. Do you have any numbers? Starting with vaccinated versus unvaccinated. I'll need them to rub in your face later when this turns out to be BS. That's more research than I'm willing to do for a silly Internet debate. But the claim is that 89% of the ICU beds are filled. And there will, after all this, be an Alberta vaccine passport. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/university-of-alberta-hospital-nearly-doubles-icu-beds-as-edmonton-zone-hits-89-capacity-1.6177501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: these measures clearly help them politically 80% of Canadians support these passport mandates they are easily bound by the fake news Which means opponents really are fighting a losing battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Is this what you're talking about Boges? Quote In total, there were 145 patients in intensive care units (ICU) across the province as of Monday, according to Alberta Health, which is nearing the all-time peak of 151 set back in December. If so what exactly do you believe that proves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Boges said: Which means opponents really are fighting a losing battle. yep that doesn't make them wrong though Canadians are willing to give up freedoms for a false sense of security they put their feelings above the facts they drink the anti-science fake news kool-aid that isn't a good thing Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: Is this what you're talking about Boges? If so what exactly do you believe that proves? It would mean that the Alberta ICU situation is about as bad as its ever been during this pandemic. Lockdowns are coming for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Boges said: It would mean that the Alberta ICU situation is about as bad as its ever been during this pandemic. Lockdowns are coming for them. if it's broke, don't fix it try it over and over and expect different results "real" lockdowns have never been tried the only reason they didn't work every other time was because they didn’t lockdown hard enough if at first your counterproductive measures don't succeed, double down again so sayeth the covid doom cult these people are not the brightest of bulbs Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1946797635790 filling isn't filled all these claims that they will run out of ICU beds never materialize how many times does the boy get to cry wolf before you catch on to the ruse? it is classic click bait fearmongering to push a ridiculous authoritarian freedom hating agenda Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 We really are on a threshold of a brave new dawn and it happened so easily and mundanely. I've no idea what the country would be like in another two decades. Do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: filling isn't filled all these claims that they will run out of ICU beds never materialize how many times does the boy get to cry wolf before you catch on to the ruse? it is classic click bait fearmongering to push a ridiculous authoritarian freedom hating agenda You will one of the ones still claiming it is a lie as they put you out so they can stuff a tube down your throat. Numbers will continue to rise for a least two weeks as these restrictions start to take effect. You better not have any other kind of medical emergency because there will be another idiot covid denier occupying the bed you need to save your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: filling isn't filled all these claims that they will run out of ICU beds never materialize how many times does the boy get to cry wolf before you catch on to the ruse? it is classic click bait fearmongering to push a ridiculous authoritarian freedom hating agenda You do understand what will happen as these beds do fill they will have to transport patients to other hospitals or provinces which have room and not many do. Did you watch the video and the part where the doctor was talking about being near the point of having to perform triage? Do you even know what triage means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Aristides said: You do understand what will happen as these beds do fill they will have to transport patients to other hospitals or provinces which have room and not many do. Did you watch the video and the part where the doctor was talking about being near the point of having to perform triage? Do you even know what triage means? the ICUs are not in danger of exceeding capacity they've been saying it will happen soon, repeatedly throughout the pandemic over and over again and it never comes to pass yet you keep falling for it Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: the ICUs are not in danger of exceeding capacity they've been saying it will happen soon, repeatedly throughout the pandemic over and over again and it never comes to pass yet you keep falling for it You don't even believe the ER doctors who are dealing with it every day. There is no hope for you. I just hope your actions don't result in someone else being denied care. It is quite evident you don't know or care what triage means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Aristides said: You don't even believe the ER doctors who are dealing with it every day. There is no hope for you. I just hope your actions don't result in someone else being denied care. It is quite evident you don't know or care what triage means. the media keep trotting out doctors to say it over and over claiming it's right around the corner any day now and it never happens you must have missed the hundreds of times they pulled this stunt earlier in the pandemic to fearmonger or you didn't and your level gullibility is off the charts the media is rotting your brain Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) It has happened in many parts of the world. A year ago LA County paramedics were rationing oxygen and triaging people in their homes deciding whether to transport them or not. But stay ignorant if it makes you feel better. Edited September 16, 2021 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) For two decades countless public billions were spent on a crumbling system near or at capacity (or by the bureaucracy on itself). A warning, SARS, 2002. Another warning, MERS, 2006. Swine flu warning. More warnings. "Travel from Wuhan". No, no its not us (how could you!) it's you, just look at those ICU bouga bouga boo! Edited September 16, 2021 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: It has happened in many parts of the world. A year ago LA County paramedics were rationing oxygen and triaging people in their homes deciding whether to transport them or not. the ICU COVID Doomsday never comes to pass triage is performed all the time, resources are rationed, even without a pandemic this is hardly exclusive to covid at all so what? the media makes it seem far worse than it is routinely don't be a rube Edited September 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021/01/11/la-covid-19-care-rationing If they never get there it will be in spite of people like you. Just think where we would be if everyone thought and acted like you. Edited September 16, 2021 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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