Infidel Dog Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 I think the real problem Pfizer and Merck are having with Ivermectin is it's cheap and accessible. The only thing that's keeping it from saving hundreds of thousands is bad press from the corporate media and bogus scare talk from Big Pharma. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Why spend a little to not get something when you can spend a lot to get rid of it. Drug patents last 20 years. Don't hold your breath. The median age in Africa is half that of Canada. Africa has 19 of the 20 youngest countries in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Aristides said: $900 for a drug that has to be administered within five days of showing symptoms I'm ok with that. I'll pay it myself if it's safe, it works, and I need it. Quote vs $60 for two doses of a vaccine that will either prevent or result in mild symptoms. Antivax economists at work. Not even close. More like: "Two doses of 1) an experimental substance which 2) the media has lied about in several different ways [at least 5, maybe 10] 3) which is proven to not work in a lot of instances, 4) and is known to have a diminishing effectiveness over time 5) and may end up causing antibody dependant enhancement and 6) which has serious side-effects that the media and our local health experts are failing to report on (why did you all hear about serious cases of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths from me before you heard about it in the news?). I've heard too many lies about the vaccines to trust them. The fact that you were lied to might not bother you at all, I'm not one to suffer fools and liars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Ivermectin's cheap. Sooner or later people will figure out the new pills are just aping its behaviour. Ivermectin will become the brand name people use like they use Aspirin. Unless Pfizer and Merck give in to competitive pricing. And when they do monoclonal antibodies will have to come down in price too, or fade away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I'm ok with that. I'll pay it myself if it's safe, it works, and I need it. Not even close. More like: "Two doses of 1) an experimental substance which 2) the media has lied about in several different ways [at least 5, maybe 10] 3) which is proven to not work in a lot of instances, 4) and is known to have a diminishing effectiveness over time 5) and may end up causing antibody dependant enhancement and 6) which has serious side-effects that the media and our local health experts are failing to report on (why did you all hear about serious cases of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths from me before you heard about it in the news?). I've heard too many lies about the vaccines to trust them. The fact that you were lied to might not bother you at all, I'm not one to suffer fools and liars. But you will jump all over an emergency use approved monotruflipovorn. You crack me up. I agree you have heard a lot of lies about vaccines. Too bad they have come from fools and liars. Edited October 4, 2021 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Turns out pregnancy is also a co-morbidity. Pregnant women five times more likely to require hospitalization and ten times more likely to require intensive care than normal. Another one Edited October 4, 2021 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) That's not "another one." That's the link that was in the first article. Tell you what though, here is an actual for real "other one" It's a writer for a women's magazine. She starts with an anecdote (as does your CBC article) about her pregnant sister being pressured to get the vaccine. This caused her to do the research. Here's what she found: Quote In February 2021, the CDC and FDA themselves confirmed that 27% of all reports of adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine were pregnancy specific: miscarriage, preterm labor, spontaneous rupture of amniotic fluids, placental abruption, thrombosis, and many more, including stillbirth. Many of these reports can be looked up by searching the VAERS database, which is the reporting system used to record adverse events relating to vaccines. Despite adverse events on VAERS related to COVID-19 vaccines outnumbering any other vaccine in recorded history, the incestuous alliance of Big Pharma with federal regulatory agencies takes precedence over discretion in mandating decisions related to pregnant women and their babies. https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/hey-cdc-get-your-hands-off-our-pregnant-bodies And here's another actual "other one" from Lifesite News: Quote (LifeSiteNews) – In his brief presentation at Wednesday’s online “Stop the Shot” conference, former Pfizer vice president Dr. Michael Yeadon highlighted three reasons why women of childbearing years and younger should entirely reject experimental COVID-19 gene-therapy vaccines. Yeadon, who has degrees in biochemistry and toxicology and a Ph.D in respiratory pharmacology, worked for 32 years in the pharmaceutical industry and retired in 2011 from the most senior position in his field as vice president and chief scientist for allergy and respiratory at Pfizer. From there, he founded his own biotech company, Ziarco, which was sold to the world’s largest drug company, Novartis, in 2017. And he explains in detail "Why ‘we never, ever, give experimental medicines to pregnant women’ " https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/735931/ Edited October 5, 2021 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) And here's another one where somebody did a search of the National Vaccine Information Center and received this reply: Quote Found 1,969 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Symptom is Aborted pregnancy or Abortion or Abortion complete or Abortion early or Abortion incomplete or Abortion induced or Abortion late or Abortion missed or Abortion of ectopic pregnancy or Abortion spontaneous or Abortion spontaneous complete or Abortion spontaneous incomplete or Foetal cardiac arrest or Foetal death or Premature baby death or Premature delivery or Stillbirth There's more at this link: https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=AGE&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=4000&SYMPTOMS[]=Aborted+pregnancy+(10000209)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+(10000210)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+complete+(10061614)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+early+(10052846)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+incomplete+(10000217)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+induced+(10000220)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+late+(10052847)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+missed+(10000230)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+of+ectopic+pregnancy+(10066266)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+spontaneous+(10000234)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+spontaneous+complete+(10061616)&SYMPTOMS[]=Abortion+spontaneous+incomplete+(10061617)&SYMPTOMS[]=Foetal+cardiac+arrest+(10084280)&SYMPTOMS[]=Foetal+death+(10055690)&SYMPTOMS[]=Premature+baby+death+(10076700)&SYMPTOMS[]=Premature+delivery+(10036595)&SYMPTOMS[]=Stillbirth+(10042062)&VAX=COVID19 Much more. Edited October 5, 2021 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Again VAERS. Anyone can make a report and none of them are verified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Northern Health in BC has had to transfer 32 ICU cases to southern BC. 26 unvaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Aristides said: But you will jump all over an emergency use approved monotruflipovorn. You crack me up. I agree you have heard a lot of lies about vaccines. Too bad they have come from fools and liars. I said "if it's safe". I don't have covid right now, afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Quote That's not "another one." That's the link that was in the first article. One was a link to another but if you had bothered to read them, they were two different cases. One in Edmonton, the other in Kelowna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) A large study in Canada has found that the Delta variant now basically taken over in Canada is not only more contagious it's also a lot more dangerous. Those who catch it are twice as likely to end up in hospital and more than three times as likely to end up in ICU. The death rate is 133% higher than the original version. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-covid-19-variants-substantially-more-dangerous-than-native-strain/ Edited October 5, 2021 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Argus said: A large study in Canada has found that the Delta variant now basically taken over in Canada is not only more contagious it's also a lot more dangerous. Those who catch it are twice as likely to end up in hospital and more than three times as likely to end up in ICU. The death rate is 133% higher than the original version. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-covid-19-variants-substantially-more-dangerous-than-native-strain/ The average covid death age is greater than life expectancy. Edited October 5, 2021 by Shady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Btw, the author of the new study is the doctor that resigned in Ontario because he said there was a secret government report that showed Ontario at 4000 cases per day in October and hospitals overwhelmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Over the weekend, Fisman also alleged on Twitter that the table was sitting on “important modelling work that projects a grim fall.”https://www.google.ca/amp/s/toronto.citynews.ca/2021/08/23/doctor-quits-ontario-science-advisory-group-alleges-political-influence/amp/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shady said: Btw, the author of the new study is the doctor that resigned in Ontario because he said there was a secret government report that showed Ontario at 4000 cases per day in October and hospitals overwhelmed. He resigned from the government advisory board because of political interference. He is a professor of epidemiology at the U of T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Says five people resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 54 minutes ago, Aristides said: He resigned from the government advisory board because of political interference. He is a professor of epidemiology at the U of T. Yes, and he started there was secret information that the government was hiding indicating a grim fall. How’s that going? Do you believe in his conspiracy theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 51 minutes ago, Shady said: Yes, and he started there was secret information that the government was hiding indicating a grim fall. How’s that going? Do you believe in his conspiracy theory? Fall just started two weeks ago. He was a co author of that study and it has U of T’s name on it. I guess anyone could look at the same data and check their conclusions, which they will. Pier review they call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Shady said: Yes, and he started there was secret information that the government was hiding indicating a grim fall. How’s that going? Do you believe in his conspiracy theory? You disapprove of including worst-case scenarios in planning documents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: You disapprove of including worst-case scenarios in planning documents? That wasn’t the issue. Pay attention to your own shitty province, and leave the best covid managed province out of your partisan ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Shady said: That wasn’t the issue. Pay attention to your own shitty province, and leave the best covid managed province out of your partisan ignorance. I agree. It's incredible how incompetent the Conservative government was in Manitoba. It's like they try to do as poor a job as they can so people like you trust government even less. Fortunately it got Pallister pounced right out of office. But nothing compares to the shotshow in Alberta. But I don't suppose you would be brave enough to elaborate on how an internal document is a conspiracy? It would be fun to watch you try. Edited October 6, 2021 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Shady said: Over the weekend, Fisman also alleged on Twitter that the table was sitting on “important modelling work that projects a grim fall.”https://www.google.ca/amp/s/toronto.citynews.ca/2021/08/23/doctor-quits-ontario-science-advisory-group-alleges-political-influence/amp/ The BC government underreported covid numbers just before the election as well. It was on the front page of the Vancouver Sun about a week ago. Edited October 6, 2021 by WestCanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) Isn't it weird that after all the fear mongering of 2020 and 2021, they actually underreported covid totals for a few days just before the 2021 election? Nothin to see here though folks.... Edited October 6, 2021 by WestCanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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