Europe gets ready to not welcome more Muslim migrants

[Argus]

Europe is anticipating a fresh flood of migrants, first from Afghanistan, but then from north Africa. The governments have changed, though, and most have moved rightward, in no small degree because of the previous migrant crisis. They are not in the mood to be overrun with more migrants/refugees and taking steps to ensure their borders are more secure. 

This should offer lessons to the Americans left, but probably won't. They are as enthusiastic about embracing limitless numbers of migrants as the EUs left wing governments were in 2015. Now those governments have fallen to the Right. 

I am reminded of a quote I posted several years back from an article in the Atlantic by David Frum.

"If liberals insist that only fascists will enforce borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals refuse to do."

The Austrian government has decisively swung towards the Central European approach of hardened borders and expedited returns to countries of origin, with Kurz stressing that he would not halt deportations to Afghanistan, as Sweden and Finland already have, a reflection of a public mood darkened by recent high-profile crimes carried out by Afghan asylum seekers. Like centre-left Denmark, which is accelerating both its return of refugees to Syria and the search, apparently along with the UK, of third-party countries in Africa willing to host refugees and migrants on its behalf, the new mood in Austria is not the result of the populist Right coming to power, but instead of centrist parties adopting solutions that were in 2015 considered the sole preserve of the radical Right.

As in Spain, where the next government is likely to be a coalition between the centre-right PP and the radical right Vox, in Italy a coalition government between the centre-Right and the far-Right looms in the wings. Indeed, Salvini’s Lega is now so outflanked on its Right by the rising power of Georgia Meloni’s post-fascist Brothers of Italy party, the most popular political party in the country, that it can be considered centre-Right itself, so far has the country’s Overton Window shifted. In France, where Macron has angrily rejected an imported American racial culture war in favour of the country’s homegrown culture war over Islam and the possibility of civil war, the soi-disant liberal saviour from the perceived populist menace has moved so far to the Right that the roughly even chances of a Le Pen victory in the forthcoming presidential election seem almost irrelevant in defining the country’s political trajectory. 

Perhaps it is Greece that highlights best not just the shifting mood in Europe’s external border states, but the shifting mood in Brussels itself. When Erdogan opened Turkey’s land borders with Greece in spring last year, bussing migrants to the border fences in a confrontation that came uncomfortably close to war, Greece’s militarised response unexpectedly won applause rather than censure from the EU hierarchy, as well as the swift dispatch of both Frontex border guards and funds to build an impassable border wall, now being beefed up with EU surveillance zeppelins and drones. Rather than a rerun of the 2015 migrant crisis, when Europe functioned as a ready source of monetary tribute to an embattled Erdogan, last year’s Evros crisis functioned as a dry run for the coming Afghan wave.

https://unherd.com/2021/07/the-walls-are-going-up-across-europe/

Edited August 1, 2021 by Argus

[QuebecOverCanada]

Why 'Muslim'? Are they specifically targeted?

[Michael Hardner]

17 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Why 'Muslim'? Are they specifically targeted?

What other mass migrations are you expecting?

[QuebecOverCanada]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

What other mass migrations are you expecting?

Many Africans who are not Muslims as well.

I don't think there is a policy toward Muslim immigration in the EU.

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Many Africans who are not Muslims as well.

I don't think there is a policy toward Muslim immigration in the EU.

From where?

[QuebecOverCanada]

Nigeria, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo, etc.

[Argus]

57 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Why 'Muslim'? Are they specifically targeted?

It seems pretty clear that most of the influx since 2015 have been Muslim. It also seems pretty clear this plays a major role in the reluctance of the EU to allow more in. I don't think the influx would have had quite as much impact on politics if they'd been Christians.

Muslims are widely seen as more dangerous - more of a security risk, and also as more 'other' who are less likely/inclined to integrate and whose social views can be dangerous to women.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Argus

[Argus]

25 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Nigeria, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo, etc.

Only about 12% of the immigrants/migrants to the EU are from sub-saharan Africa

[CITIZEN_2015]

Also some may carry the ideology of forcing their beliefs upon others by any means. Even when they are a small minority they seems to cause a lot of problems. Look at France or Sweden as just two examples. There is not even one democratic muslim country on this planet and there is a reason for that. Feel sorry for those born muslim non-believers who are stuck there for good as a result.

Edited August 11, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015

[Guest]

We might have fewer annoying snot-nosed brats around...

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/09/eight-year-old-becomes-youngest-person-charged-with-blasphemy-in-pakistan

[Argus]

38 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

We might have fewer annoying snot-nosed brats around...

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/09/eight-year-old-becomes-youngest-person-charged-with-blasphemy-in-pakistan

They finish the report by saying four countries amount for 80% of the world's mob attacks for religious reasons then don't tell you who they are.

For the record, trying back to the original report: Four (4) countries—Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Egypt—account for nearly 80% of all reported incidents of mob activity, mob violence, and/or threats of violence, with or without state blasphemy or other law enforcement.

Edited August 9, 2021 by Argus

[CITIZEN_2015]

Pakistan is the worst. Taliban is actually from Pakistan. I am surprised about the other 3 being in the list as they are less fanatic in idiotic way.

[Savannahleaf]

On 8/10/2021 at 1:00 AM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

There is not even one democratic muslim country on this planet and there is a reason for that

Except Albania and Kosovo, from the top of my head.

[CITIZEN_2015]

53 minutes ago, Savannahleaf said:

Except Albania and Kosovo, from the top of my head.

Likely because less than 60% are muslims. 

Edited August 17, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015

[Savannahleaf]

7 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Likely because less than 60% are muslims. 

Where do you get your information from? 90-100% of the population of Kosovo are Muslim according to any statistics I find from the last 10 years.

Azerbaijan is also a democracy with almost 100% Muslim population.

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

5 hours ago, Savannahleaf said:

Where do you get your information from? 90-100% of the population of Kosovo are Muslim according to any statistics I find from the last 10 years.

Azerbaijan is also a democracy with almost 100% Muslim population.

 

My statistics were for Albania. Where on earth is Kosovo!!!! Yes Azerbaijan like Turkey is kind of semi democratic. 

[Savannahleaf]

13 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

My statistics were for Albania. Where on earth is Kosovo!!!! Yes Azerbaijan like Turkey is kind of semi democratic. 

Right next to Albania.