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20 hours ago, Aristides said:

The Peace River anti vax crowd must be really proud. They are now providing over a third of the BC's Covid  ICU cases with just over 3% of the population

All this lying communist NDP government is doing here is just raising the bar cycles on the fraud and unreliable PCR scale to make it appear as though the north is now in some kind of a covid pandemic crisis. Next, it will probably be some community in eastern B.C. near the Alberta border that will end up with a covid virus crisis outbreak. 

We the non vaccianted people are quite proud and happy to say that we are not vaccinated. We stand with and for our principals and convictions that we do not need a covid vaccine jab just to maybe avoid catching the so called covid bug. If we do catch the covid bug we have a 99% chance of fighting it off and getting better. Those are the real facts.  

Who knows, I may have had the covid bug already, and not know it, and my body immune system kicked the chit out of it and took care of getting rid of the covid bug. I am now probably immune from ever getting the covid bug. 

Anything that the lying and fake BC media says needs to be questioned and challenged because we all should know by now that the media does like to lie pretty much all of the time. Why do I believe this to be true? Because I have never seen any Canadian or BC media outlet yet ever interview and ask any questions of those doctors and nurses who are refusing to take the covid jabs. Why or what are those in the media afraid of hearing just like you, eh? 

if you had any class at all you would go on the internet right now and punch in as to why are there so many doctors and nurses refusing to take the jab and get their side of the story? Try it, you may finally learn something for a change. 😁

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20 hours ago, Aristides said:

The Peace River anti vax crowd must be really proud. They are now providing over a third of the BC's Covid  ICU cases with just over 3% of the population

Why are you still being forced to wear a mask inside any business premises if those two covid jabs that you took were supposed to protect you from ever getting covid which turned out to be a lie anyway. there has been many vaccinated people whom are now staying in ICU beds in many hospitals across the country. WTH? 

And I need an answer from you also as to why it seems to be okay for some non vaccinated person to be able to go into stores like Costco and Walmart or government liquor stores without being vaccinated while at the same time the non vaccinated cannot go into a restaurant, casino,pub or sport or concert events? 

So come on, I need you to give me an answer for this. Well? 🙂

 

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20 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

You are one of big conspiracy believers. Just tell me what politicians are to gain from all these that they are trying so hard? Are you saying that say Pfizer pharmaceutical pays some millions of dollars to Justin Trudeau or premiers to make vaccines mandatory?

Yup, I do believe that to be true that there has to be rewards for our politicians and some people in the media and some of those so called health officials who may have been bribed and coerced with some money or some goodies to push and go along with this covid lie and hoax. After all, the more vaccines that big pharma can push on we the sheeple the more money profits for them. 🙃

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5 hours ago, Aristides said:

This isn’t Norway sunshine but maybe you should think about living there and enjoying their taxes.

Well for once MP salary in Norway is about double average while in this country it's out of all bounds; and I wouldn't be surprised if effective taxes are at a similar level while healthcare actually works rather than being in a state of permanent crisis Covid or not. That's what one always gets for blindly worshiping the government and turning off both civic oversight and critical mind.

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Let's recall some here quoting numbers like vaccinated being 20 times less likely to transmit Covid. That was just saying it as you can say... pretty much anything but here are actual studies: do Covid vaccines prevent transmission?

As often there are two news. The good one being that vaccines do prevent transmission, from about 1/3 (AstraZeneca) to 2/3 (Phizer). So after a double shot of Phizer the risk of catching it from double vaccinated who was infected is about 1/3 of that of from a non vaccinated. But there's another part of this story: that protection is short, and after three months the risks even out for the former vaccine, and close the gap for the latter.

What does it mean? That those vaccinated before July now may transmit on a similar level with non vaccinated. But if this is the case why drumming and mandating? And as all mindless drumming and mandating it can be not only useless but actually dangerous. Think of health and care workers vaccinated in this period whose transmission levels returning to the level of non vaccinated and with protection of vulnerable waning and with the levels of unreported and non symptomatic infection unknown (we could have invested in mechanisms of monitoring it but couldn't bother to be distracted from marching). Could it build up the conditions for another flare within a few months under the muzak of steadily approaching the holy 99.99%? That is, second stepping on the same rake. Or is anyone still counting how many?

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21 hours ago, Aristides said:

Northern Health with 5% of the population had 25% of the Covid deaths over the long weekend. The great majority from the eastern part of the region.

That is quite the long period to draw conclusions on.😅

Since noone dies of old age any more, the numbers can look whatever the politicians want them to look.

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1 minute ago, Goddess said:

England.  

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They have to put this graph on Trudeau's desk so he looks at it each and every morning and thinks hard before he sacks 15% of our already insufficient medical staff.

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7 minutes ago, myata said:

Well for once MP salary in Norway is about double average while in this country it's out of all bounds; and I wouldn't be surprised if effective taxes are at a similar level while healthcare actually works rather than being in a state of permanent crisis Covid or not. That's what one always gets for blindly worshiping the government and turning off both civic oversight and critical mind.

As a non vaccinated person I am starting to feel as to what it must have felt like for the black slaves of America and black slaves of apartheid in South Africa in the past. Remember when we all heard the stories about how black slaves were denied entrance into restaurants that were reserved for white people only in those slavery days. Well, we the non vaccinated ones are now the new black slaves in this new era in Canada today. I wonder what will be next on the hit list for we the non vaccinated down the road? Maybe Quarantine camps? Hey we never know, eh. 😇

 

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In the 1960's, the KGB conducted some fascinating psychological experiments and they learned this:

The y learned that if you bombard human subjects with fear messages nonstop, in 2 months or less most of the subjects are completely brainwashed to believe the false message.  To the point that no amount of clear information they are shown to the contrary can change their mind.

I think too many people want so badly for this virus to be something it's not - an actual threat that validates the way they've behaved and the trauma they've put themselves, their children and others through.  Most people would rather continue living the lie, than admit they were lied to.

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https://globalnews.ca/news/8262082/ontario-covid-cases-october-13-coronavirus/

 

Active cases in Ontario now stand at 4,136— down from the previous day when it was at 4,369, and is down from Oct. 6 when it was at 4,579. At the peak of the second wave coronavirus surge in January, active cases hit just above 30,000. In the third wave in April, active cases topped 43,000.

 

Things are looking much better now compared to last year.  

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8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Canada.  Hospitalizations with covid have totaled 2273, since the start.

715 in the ICU, since the start.

715 people overloaded our system.

Do you think it may mean that our system sucks if it can't handle 715 people over 18 months?

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All out of a population of approx. 38 million people living in Canada. More people have died from using dangerous drugs like Fentanyl than the amount of people that have died from covid. This covid bull chit is all just a joke, folks. We need to stop playing this covid joke any longer. It is starting to get on my nerves. LOL.

Can Canada do anything right anymore that does not suck big time? If it were not for that bunch of dumb ass useless and stupid Canadian politicians, that are running and ruining this country, this covid virus would have ended months ago. It is those cheats, liars and thieves that keep this plandemic going. It benefits them tremendously with money and power and control over we the sheeple.

The only thing that keeps and holds this pathetic country together and keeps it up and running is this political bull shit crazy glue that are politicians are using. So far, so good and the bs glue is still working for those bozos. 🤣 

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7 minutes ago, taxme said:

All out of a population of approx. 38 million people living in Canada. More people have died from using dangerous drugs like Fentanyl than the amount of people that have died from covid. This covid bull chit is all just a joke, folks. We need to stop playing this covid joke any longer. It is starting to get on my nerves. LOL.

Can Canada do anything right anymore that does not suck big time? If it were not for that bunch of dumb ass useless and stupid Canadian politicians, that are running and ruining this country, this covid virus would have ended months ago. It is those cheats, liars and thieves that keep this plandemic going. It benefits them tremendously with money and power and control over we the sheeple.

The only thing that keeps and holds this pathetic country together and keeps it up and running is this political bull shit crazy glue that are politicians are using. So far, so good and the bs glue is still working for those bozos. 🤣 

Lol we should be like North Korea, they have zero reported cases of covid.  😆

 

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27 minutes ago, Goddess said:

In the 1960's, the KGB conducted some fascinating psychological experiments and they learned this:

The y learned that if you bombard human subjects with fear messages nonstop, in 2 months or less most of the subjects are completely brainwashed to believe the false message.  To the point that no amount of clear information they are shown to the contrary can change their mind.

I think too many people want so badly for this virus to be something it's not - an actual threat that validates the way they've behaved and the trauma they've put themselves, their children and others through.  Most people would rather continue living the lie, than admit they were lied to.

Imagine how united we could all be if our government stopped the fear-mongering and the blaming of those who either cannot or choose not to vaccinate.  

Imagine if we got daily briefings like this:

"Today, there was 1000 cases of covid, but 992 of them are okay. 

Thank you to our citizens who chose to get vaccinated.  Thank you for doing your part.  Those that chose not to, thank you for continuing to be safe by staying home when you feel ill, washing your hands regularly, and taking the preventative vitamins and other things we've said to take from the beginning of this.  Thank you everyone for doing what you can to protect our most vulnerable - our elderly ones.

We're doing well in spite of this pandemic.  We know it's been hard on everyone.  Thanks, everyone, for pulling together and looking out for each other and taking care of each other."

I know I'd rather hear that, than Dr. Patricia Daly telling everyone that even though there's not much transmission at restaurants, movies and gyms everyone has to stay home and now those that are not vaccinated - we will punish them by not allowing them at venues where we know there's already little likelihood of transmission and we'll blame them for the case numbers even though we know it's being spread by the vaccinated, too and also our government has totally fucked up by cutting back on healthcare to the point that our entire country cannot handle 715 people in the ICU over a period of 18 months.

 

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12 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8262082/ontario-covid-cases-october-13-coronavirus/

 

Active cases in Ontario now stand at 4,136— down from the previous day when it was at 4,369, and is down from Oct. 6 when it was at 4,579. At the peak of the second wave coronavirus surge in January, active cases hit just above 30,000. In the third wave in April, active cases topped 43,000.

 

Things are looking much better now compared to last year.  

The only thing that I want to start to see is when people like you stop listening to those lying politicians and the lying media here in Canada. They are the ones that keep trying to keep Canadians always into a state of fear and panic and paranoia over nothing. 

Why are there so many doctors and nurses quitting or are being fired because they are refusing to take the covid vaccine jabs? I do not believe that these doctors or nurses are all that crazy as those many vaccinated people probably do believe that they are.

As a matter of fact, I do believe that they have truly something to really say that is not so nice about those covid vaccines and that they may be very dangerous to be taking for anyone's health. Why would they all risk losing their jobs if they believed that they have this fear about taking these covid vaccines? After all, they are the people on the front lines, right? Last year they were heroes. This year they are being treated like scoundrels and terrorists. 

Maybe you can answer this for me, Canucklehead? So, go ahead punk, make your day. 😁

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2 minutes ago, taxme said:

Why is that, nuckle? 😇

 

There have been no confirmed cases of COVID-19 in North Korea. In January 2020, the North Korean government began taking extensive measures to block the outbreak, including quarantine facilities, and strict travel restrictions. In March and April 2020, the Asia Times and 38 North reported that these measures seemed largely successful.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/how-bad-is-the-pandemic-in-north-korea-1.5491204

After saying for months that it kept the coronavirus at bay, North Korea on Wednesday came closest to admitting that its anti-virus campaign has been less than perfect.

Kim Jong Un's mention of a "great crisis" created by a "crucial" failure in national pandemic measures during a ruling party meeting has triggered outside speculation about how bad the situation in North Korea really is.

 

I guess its hard to tell the difference between someone dying of covid and someone dying of starvation in their country.  

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21 minutes ago, taxme said:

The only thing that I want to start to see is when people like you stop listening to those lying politicians and the lying media here in Canada. They are the ones that keep trying to keep Canadians always into a state of fear and panic and paranoia over nothing. 

Why are there so many doctors and nurses quitting or are being fired because they are refusing to take the covid vaccine jabs? I do not believe that these doctors or nurses are all that crazy as those many vaccinated people probably do believe that they are.

As a matter of fact, I do believe that they have truly something to really say that is not so nice about those covid vaccines and that they may be very dangerous to be taking for anyone's health. Why would they all risk losing their jobs if they believed that they have this fear about taking these covid vaccines? After all, they are the people on the front lines, right? Last year they were heroes. This year they are being treated like scoundrels and terrorists. 

Maybe you can answer this for me, Canucklehead? So, go ahead punk, make your day. 😁

Some of the nurses who are not yet vaccinated question those numbers, as well as the claims of scientific experts about  the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. For others, the issue is one of having the freedom to exercise personal choice. And some of them are already making contingency plans.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6208174

"I don't feel that this [the vaccine] was the one and only solution. I think we went for it with a complete disregard about the freedom of choice, and then imposed it," Chantale Hébert, a nurse who works at a long-term care residence in Rouyn-Noranda, Que., told CBC in an interview Tuesday.

"Now we're getting sanctions just for believing in what we believe. I'm angry."

 

If I met one of these nurses I'd be asking what other solutions they have, because frankly the lockdowns and restrictions didn't go well with many people, and neither did the masks.  

 

You can make a personal choice for yourself, but when that choice endangers everyone else around you, you have to consider if it's the right choice.  

Again, the government is stuck between a rock and a hard place and nothing they can do will appease everyone.  Mask mandates set people off, lockdowns set people off, vaccines set people off.  

My advice to you is to suck it up or move to Mars. 

Or North Korea if you believe Kim.  

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4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Imagine how united we could all be if our government stopped the fear-mongering and the blaming of those who either cannot or choose not to vaccinate.  

Imagine if we got daily briefings like this:

"Today, there was 1000 cases of covid, but 992 of them are okay. 

Thank you to our citizens who chose to get vaccinated.  Thank you for doing your part.  Those that chose not to, thank you for continuing to be safe by staying home when you feel ill, washing your hands regularly, and taking the preventative vitamins and other things we've said to take from the beginning of this.  Thank you everyone for doing what you can to protect our most vulnerable - our elderly ones.

We're doing well in spite of this pandemic.  We know it's been hard on everyone.  Thanks, everyone, for pulling together and looking out for each other and taking care of each other."

I know I'd rather hear that, than Dr. Patricia Daly telling everyone that even though there's not much transmission at restaurants, movies and gyms everyone has to stay home and now those that are not vaccinated - we will punish them by not allowing them at venues where we know there's already little likelihood of transmission and we'll blame them for the case numbers even though we know it's being spread by the vaccinated, too and also our government has totally fucked up by cutting back on healthcare to the point that our entire country cannot handle 715 people in the ICU over a period of 18 months.

 

I sure wish that you were the chief medical officer of BC, and not that lying Bonnie the NDP commie Henry, Goddess. You pretty much did a good job of telling us all as to how things should have been said and done instead. Well said. 

Instead Bonnie Poo has shown herself to be quite the arse hole. All she wants to do is try to come up with as many restrictions as she possibly can to try and make our lives even more miserable as hell than what the lying biotch has already done to us. All Bonnie Poo ever wants and talks about is for those non vaccinated people to go get vaccinated.

Otherwise, Bonnie Poo is going to try and make those that are not vaccinated people's lives as miserable as hell. We the non vaccinated have been told that we are the major problem. Such lying bull chit indeed. The vaccinated people are also a big problem here also. They still get covid and they still can spread it around. Hello Bonnie Poo. 

My wife is in a care home with dementia. I have been able to see her every day for the past seven months and get to hold and kiss her and try to make her feel better with love and hugs and kisses. But, as of yesterday, this Bonnie the commie Henry has now taken that away from me. I am not allowed to visit my wife in her care home any longer because I have not been vaccinated. Even wearing a mask in the care home is not good enough her majesty Bonnie. Bonnie is just doing this to show as to just how mean and miserable as she can be. 

And here I am being forced to have to wear a mask inside many businesses because it is supposed to be safe to do so, but yet, it is not safe to be wearing a mask in care homes anymore. What a bunch of hypocrite covid bull chit going on here. There seems to be no end in site for this covid nonsense here in BC and Canada. It just goes on and on.

The lack of real and true compassion and empathy is sorely missing by this communist buffoon Henry, and to meis  a crime against my wife and myself and a crime against the people of B.C. and a crime against humanity. This communist Henry needs to be arrested and jailed for her crimes against the people of B.C. Nothing less will do for her majesty.  😇

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7 minutes ago, taxme said:

My wife is in a care home with dementia. I have been able to see her every day for the past seven months and get to hold and kiss her and try to make her feel better with love and hugs and kisses. But, as of yesterday, this Bonnie the commie Henry has now taken that away from me. I am not allowed to visit my wife in her care home any longer because I have not been vaccinated. Even wearing a mask in the care home is not good enough her majesty Bonnie. Bonnie is just doing this to show as to just how mean and miserable as she can be. 

I'm sorry to hear that - it breaks my heart, actually.  I've been honoured to work with 3 families as their death doula since covid and the hardest part for me has been the times when I can't see or meet them in person, only over Zoom.  It's just not the same.  I can't imagine how difficult that is for you, and for your wife.

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11 minutes ago, taxme said:

I sure wish that you were the chief medical officer of BC, and not that lying Bonnie the NDP commie Henry, Goddess.

Haha, that's very kind.

I believe healthcare should also look after people's emotional needs, sometimes it can make all the difference and it's an important part of healthcare that our leaders seem to care little about.  Especially when they are just making rules to punish and control now - a la Dr. Patricia Daly.  There has been absolutely zero concern over people's mental and emotional health since this began.

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10 hours ago, Aristides said:

Because dumb asses won’t get vaccinated. Well over a million dollars has been spent sending a bunch of dumb asses south because another bunch of dumb asses have filled up their own regions hospitals. You guys don’t take responsibility for anything you do. You whine and moan about inefficiencies in the system while you go out of your way to abuse it.

Yeah, I get it, because the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that didn't protect the protected, right?

I missed something. Who are the "dumb asses" again?

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10 hours ago, Goddess said:

The y learned that if you bombard human subjects with fear messages nonstop, in 2 months or less most of the subjects are completely brainwashed to believe the false message.  To the point that no amount of clear information they are shown to the contrary can change their mind.

Seriously? And I thought it was discovered by CBC and our public health proudly "travel from Wuhan" exzperts...

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@ Aristides: You know how you want us to believe that because you heard of some outbreak in its early stages where unvaccinated infections outnumbered vaccinated that that was the way it always had to be at all times everywhere?

Tell you what...you like examples from BC right? Try this one involving the Ahousaht Nation just north of Tofino:

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The remote B.C. community of Maaqtusiis, home to the Ahousaht Nation, has been in lockdown for two weeks because of COVID-19. The schools have been closed, non-essential travel to and from the community has been prohibited, and families have been asked not to mingle with other households.

Unlike many Indigenous communities in British Columbia where vaccination rates are below the provincial average, the Ahousaht enthusiastically welcomed a team of public-health nurses who arrived with the Moderna vaccine on Jan. 6. The outbreak adds to growing concerns that the protective benefits of the vaccines may be waning.

Ahousaht Chief Councillor Greg Louie helped set the tone by being first in line to receive his vaccine. He says 92 per cent of eligible community members got their first shot during that January clinic, after public-health officials ran information sessions. Most residents returned for their second shot four weeks later. (The province later increased the recommended interval, based on clinical trials that concluded that getting the second dose six to eight weeks after the first may provide stronger protection.)

Now, eight months on, First Nations health officials are concerned the protection offered by the vaccine is fading, just as the more dangerous Delta variant is spreading. Since Sept. 4, there have been more than 50 cases of COVID-19 in Maaqtusiis, involving five households, with additional cases among Ahousaht members living off-reserve. A breakdown of how many cases required hospitalization was not provided.

 

“We have seen higher rates of COVID among fully vaccinated individuals – as high as three times the rate among the general B.C. population,” said Dr. Shannon McDonald, acting chief medical officer for the provincial First Nations Health Authority (FNHA)."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-covid-19-outbreak-in-bc-indigenous-community-fuels-concerns-over/

So do you still believe small samples over short periods of time are proof of phenomena happening always everywhere? Because I have more like the one above. Would you like to see them one at a time or in one novella sized bunch?

 

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