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22 hours ago, taxme said:

 I guess that I am probably one of the last imperial dinosaurs left in Canada. Aw well. ☺️

Unfortunately you are not.   I knew only the metric system and the Celsius scale, but here in Canada I had to learn about feet and inches.  Anything construction wise still sticks to the stupid Imperial system  2x4-s and lineal feet - I have given up.   So many years down the road and the mess is left to continue. 

If I wanted to change the measurement system in a country, I would have made sure all items are sold as per the new measurement units.

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3 hours ago, Huckleberry Finn said:

BTW are any of your children able to afford a starter home which will cost $500K?

This is the result of oligopolies and their ownership of all the land surrounding our cities.

 

I do not think this is the actual reason.  Maybe there is not a single reason either.

For a start think about the good old supply and demand and the hundreds of thousands of immigrants that are brought here every year.  If this flow stopped, what do you think will happen to rent and down the line to real estate prices?

Then think about our crooked property assessment system which does not account for depreciation.  Value of properties can only go up, like in la-la land.  People are not made aware of  the huge difference between actual value of asset and what the market value is.  So they are less worried to spend more, thinking, it will all continue going up.

Think about the property taxes -your crooked government is dispossessing wildlife of their land and destroying the habitat, so they can sell the land to someone and then ask for property tax every year. 

I pay about $1,200 in tax a year on some 700 square feet, which after conversion is 65 square meters.  The government also takes some $10,000/year from me in income tax and then GST and PST and licensing fees and insurance fees.  Not bad........for them.

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On 7/26/2021 at 2:57 PM, taxme said:

Here in socialist utopia British Columbia our gas prices are almost up to $1.70 a liter. If one converts that into gallons it amounts to approx. $7.00 a gallon. Who would have ever thought that one day here in oil rich Canada that we would be paying $7.00 a gallon for gas. But, here we are. 

The reason why I believe that we in BC are paying close to $7.00 a gallon for gas is because of the metric system that was imposed on Canadians when comrade old man Trudeau was the prime dictator of Canada many moons ago. 

in the USA, if a gallon of gas goes up, say by five cents, it does not look all that bad. But when it goes up in liters by five cents in BC or Canada that works out to about 22 cents a liter. Quite the jump. And at most times the gas price in BC will jump sometimes by 8 - 10 cents a liter overnight. That would run around 40 cents a gallon over night. Yup, metric was a great idea, or as I would call it, a great ripoff for Canadians. 

The metric system has been a disaster for we the people in Canada but a big boom and profit for the oil companies and the big tax governments in Canada. They both make more money the more the gas prices rise. If Canada went back to the good old imperial measurement system tomorrow, Canadians could save a bundle on gas prices if they realized and looked at and compared the prices of gas in America, and that metric was ripping them off big time, metric would be gone tomorrow. I believe that would force the price of gas to go down. We the people would surely rebel, right? Gas prices in America are around $3.00 on average a gallon. In Canada we pay around $7.00 a gallon for gas. Such a deal this metric system was for Canadians, eh? ?

Metric system was imposed to hide the truth and confuse people.

Whereas imperial is the more sensible from an anthropocentric perspective.

The shift to metric was a sea-change in our values, not just values.

Whereas man was at the centre of things, by the pound, by the foot,

by the yard,

they seek to impose their neo-empericalism

and state "there is a meter".

or is that "metre"

how about some coffee, sir?

sure, I'll take 454 grams...

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In ON we had the Dofo ranting up and down about putting a sticker on the gas pump to show how much you were paying, to the federalis. Get it?

Aye, there's the rum, there's the rum.

Or how about a little of the old carbon taxation? You can bet your ass, fella. Bet your ass on that.

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50 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Metric system was imposed to hide the truth and confuse people.

Whereas imperial is the more sensible from an anthropocentric perspective.

The shift to metric was a sea-change in our values, not just values.

Whereas man was at the centre of things, by the pound, by the foot,

by the yard,

they seek to impose their neo-empericalism

and state "there is a meter".

or is that "metre"

how about some coffee, sir?

sure, I'll take 454 grams...

The metric system is used because everything is in multiples of ten. It was in intended to make things simpler and it does if you are brought up with it. The imperial system is just made up shit. The foot is the length of a long dead kings foot which for some reason they decided to divide into 12 inches instead of ten.  And then they made a mile 5280 feet instead of 1000 or even 5000. Every other imperial measure came about in a similar archaic rambling way.

I suppose you would still like to have pounds, shillings and pence as well.

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43 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The metric system is used because everything is in multiples of ten. It was in intended to make things simpler and it does if you are brought up with it. The imperial system is just made up shit. The foot is the length of a long dead kings foot which for some reason they decided to divide into 12 inches instead of ten.  And then they made a mile 5280 feet instead of 1000 or even 5000. Every other imperial measure came about in a similar archaic rambling way.

I suppose you would still like to have pounds, shillings and pence as well.

Isn't that all the same as what I said, more or less? Yep.

And when I go to the grocer to buy my coffee, what choice to I have other than to obtain 454 grams?

How is that for "units of ten", for ya?

Besides, look what's happened just now about the meter. Or is it, "metre"? Its definition was only recently changed. All those "perfect" one-metre bars in Paris are all wrong now, as is my meter-stick and tape measure.

"The metre is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second. This definition was reworded in 2019"
(Wikipedia)

1/299,792,458 of a second? Why... that sounds logico.   :wacko:

What a laughable situation... the empiricists discover there is actually no finite value of anything.

I can only take great pleasure...

 

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3 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Isn't that all the same as what I said, more or less? Yep.

And when I go to the grocer to buy my coffee, what choice to I have other than to obtain 454 grams?

How is that for "units of ten", for ya?

Besides, look what's happened just now about the meter. Or is it, "metre"? Its definition was only recently changed. All those "perfect" one-metre bars in Paris are all wrong now, as is my meter-stick and tape measure.

"The metre is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second. This definition was reworded in 2019"
(Wikipedia)

1/299,792,458 of a second? Why... that sounds logico.   :wacko:

What a laughable situation... the empiricists discover there is actually no finite value of anything.

I can only take great pleasure...

 

The length of those bars will change with temperature and over a long period of time will change with erosion. The speed of light  in a vacuum is finite.

454 grams is used for us dinosaurs who still relate to pounds. 454 grams equals 1.0009 lbs. Half a kilo or 500 grams would make much more sense. 1.14 L  bottles of booze for the same reason because 1.14L equals 40 oz.

The metric system also does things like link length, area and volume together. l litre equals 1000 cubic centimetres. On the other hand, 1 US gallon equals 231 cubic inches and 1 Imp gallon equals 277.419432 cubic inches. No relationship at all.

1 Hectare = 10,000 sq metres. 1 Acre= 43560.04 Sq ft.

The only non metric measure we use that relates to any other measure is the nautical mile.

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On 8/2/2021 at 11:01 AM, cougar said:

Unfortunately you are not.   I knew only the metric system and the Celsius scale, but here in Canada I had to learn about feet and inches.  Anything construction wise still sticks to the stupid Imperial system  2x4-s and lineal feet - I have given up.   So many years down the road and the mess is left to continue. 

If I wanted to change the measurement system in a country, I would have made sure all items are sold as per the new measurement units.

Most of our lumber is sold in the US. Until that changes we will be using feet and inches.

 

Interestingly the US auto industry now uses metric hardware. They have to if they want to have international markets.

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8 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Metric system was imposed to hide the truth and confuse people.

Whereas imperial is the more sensible from an anthropocentric perspective.

The shift to metric was a sea-change in our values, not just values.

Whereas man was at the centre of things, by the pound, by the foot,

by the yard,

they seek to impose their neo-empericalism

and state "there is a meter".

or is that "metre"

how about some coffee, sir?

sure, I'll take 454 grams...

You are kidding us , right?

You have meters and centimeters and millimeters and micrometers and everything is logical and divisible by 10, 100, 1000, 100,000 and you can easily go down in size.

Try to do that with you f* inch.  Haven't heard of a mictoinch or milliinch yet and for a good reason - impossible!

And by the way you do not order 454 f* grams of coffee.  You order 500 grams or half a kilo, whatever you wanna call it or your imperial mind is more likely to remember.

Oh, I wish you were paid in shillings , you might have seen the disadvantages then.

 

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It’s no lie when I say our values changed, not just the value of things. For under metric, man no longer the measure of things.

It’s like my pappy said, “ya got yer imperial, and yer empirical.” 

So fine metric’s about measuring some other anthropocentric parameter we deemed important.

Speed of light in a vacuum, you say? Per second, you say? Per millisecond, even?

Hey Orville, what’s a second? :blink:

Weird how time was never made metric then. Think about it. All frequencies are thus arbitrary. 

So you can call it Jack or you can call it Jackie, yet it remains the same. There it is.

I can accept the system if it were at least consistent. It’s unreliable to base it on some other assumed parameter that could change again later on. Completely wrong application of science to implement metric.

 

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18 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

It’s no lie when I say our values changed, not just the value of things. For under metric, man no longer the measure of things.

It’s like my pappy said, “ya got yer imperial, and yer empirical.” 

So fine metric’s about measuring some other anthropocentric parameter we deemed important.

Speed of light in a vacuum, you say? Per second, you say? Per millisecond, even?

Hey Orville, what’s a second? :blink:

Weird how time was never made metric then. Think about it. All frequencies are thus arbitrary. 

So you can call it Jack or you can call it Jackie, yet it remains the same. There it is.

I can accept the system if it were at least consistent. It’s unreliable to base it on some other assumed parameter that could change again later on. Completely wrong application of science to implement metric.

 

It changed because it is only in the last 75 years or so that we have been able to accurately measure the speed of light and time to a degree that makes it more accurate than a rod.

 

What would metric time be? The way we measure time  is based on the earths rotation rate. To change it would also mean changing how we measure latitude and longitude. 

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48 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 What would metric time be? The way we measure time  is based on the earths rotation rate. To change it would also mean changing how we measure latitude and longitude. 

We use metric time in our house.

Basically each day is 10 metric hours of 144 minutes each, also called 'kilominutes'.  A deciminute is about 864 seconds or almost 15 minutes, with a minute made up of 100 'centiseconds' each of about 9/10s of a second.

Once you get used to it, it's a lot easier than trying to figure out all the 12s and 6s of Imperial time.  

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3 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Speed of light in a vacuum, you say? Per second, you say? Per millisecond, even?

Hey Orville, what’s a second? :blink:

Weird how time was never made metric then. Think about it. All frequencies are thus arbitrary.

 

There is no need to make a mess of something that works and is not used for actual measurement purposes.  (you will not measure a period of time with a measuring tape) Time can be left in hours, minutes, seconds.  Then we have the milliseconds to emphasize what I was telling your earlier - metric makes sense to go up and down a scale dealing with really small or really large numbers. 

The imperial system unfortunately for you is useless in this situations and is , for the most part confusing, even in the small range of values it is supposed to cover.

You want my uneducated take on it? You have the British being stubborn and insisting on keeping things that obviously do not work.  Since we are a commonwealth country, we inherited the imperial system from those stubborn Brits, some of which are now proud third or fourth generation Canadians. 

They will not admit you cannot wash you hands in that sink with the hot water and cold water taps installed some 2 feet apart.  They just like freezing or scalding their hands for generations but never admitting they are f-d in their heads.

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On 8/2/2021 at 11:01 AM, cougar said:

Unfortunately you are not.   I knew only the metric system and the Celsius scale, but here in Canada I had to learn about feet and inches.  Anything construction wise still sticks to the stupid Imperial system  2x4-s and lineal feet - I have given up.   So many years down the road and the mess is left to continue. 

If I wanted to change the measurement system in a country, I would have made sure all items are sold as per the new measurement units.

Let's just go back to the good old imperial measurement system and be done with it. Works well for me. ?

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On 11/26/2020 at 7:01 PM, taxme said:

 

 

On 7/26/2021 at 2:57 PM, taxme said:

Here in socialist utopia British Columbia our gas prices are almost up to $1.70 a liter. If one converts that into gallons it amounts to approx. $7.00 a gallon. Who would have ever thought that one day here in oil rich Canada that we would be paying $7.00 a gallon for gas. But, here we are. 

The reason why I believe that we in BC are paying close to $7.00 a gallon for gas is because of the metric system that was imposed on Canadians when comrade old man Trudeau was the prime dictator of Canada many moons ago. 

in the USA, if a gallon of gas goes up, say by five cents, it does not look all that bad. But when it goes up in liters by five cents in BC or Canada that works out to about 22 cents a liter. Quite the jump. And at most times the gas price in BC will jump sometimes by 8 - 10 cents a liter overnight. That would run around 40 cents a gallon over night. Yup, metric was a great idea, or as I would call it, a great ripoff for Canadians. 

The metric system has been a disaster for we the people in Canada but a big boom and profit for the oil companies and the big tax governments in Canada. They both make more money the more the gas prices rise. If Canada went back to the good old imperial measurement system tomorrow, Canadians could save a bundle on gas prices if they realized and looked at and compared the prices of gas in America, and that metric was ripping them off big time, metric would be gone tomorrow. I believe that would force the price of gas to go down. We the people would surely rebel, right? Gas prices in America are around $3.00 on average a gallon. In Canada we pay around $7.00 a gallon for gas. Such a deal this metric system was for Canadians, eh? ?

You've said some batshit crazy things before but blaming the metric system for gas prices maybe my new favorite. I'll put aside the fact that metric is objectively and demonstrably a far better system. That's like getting mad that im shorter in metric because i only measure 1.89 as apossed to imperial where im 6'3.

I find it hard to believe that what you spout are sincere opinions and you're not just playing a character.

Though I will thank you for reminding me why i stopped coming here

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23 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

We use metric time in our house.

Basically each day is 10 metric hours of 144 minutes each, also called 'kilominutes'.  A deciminute is about 864 seconds or almost 15 minutes, with a minute made up of 100 'centiseconds' each of about 9/10s of a second.

Once you get used to it, it's a lot easier than trying to figure out all the 12s and 6s of Imperial time.  

Been drinking again Michael ? 

 

 

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3 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

 

 

You've said some batshit crazy things before but blaming the metric system for gas prices maybe my new favorite. I'll put aside the fact that metric is objectively and demonstrably a far better system. That's like getting mad that im shorter in metric because i only measure 1.89 as apossed to imperial where im 6'3.

I find it hard to believe that what you spout are sincere opinions and you're not just playing a character.

Though I will thank you for reminding me why i stopped coming here

What we should be mad at is Canadian women still measure Penis's in inches, rather than cm's or mm...

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On 8/3/2021 at 6:45 AM, Aristides said:

The metric system is used because everything is in multiples of ten. It was in intended to make things simpler and it does if you are brought up with it. The imperial system is just made up shit. The foot is the length of a long dead kings foot which for some reason they decided to divide into 12 inches instead of ten.  And then they made a mile 5280 feet instead of 1000 or even 5000. Every other imperial measure came about in a similar archaic rambling way.

I suppose you would still like to have pounds, shillings and pence as well.

No one ever asked to change our imperial measurement system over to the metric system. It was just done without the people's vote or consent. And of course it was that communist old man Trudeau that forced the metric system on Canada and costing probably billions of taxpayer's tax dollars and out of pocket money for people to switch over to the metric system. Metric may have some good benefits but back in my day the imperial system was working just fine and dandy. It's always a small minority of shit disturbers that always seems to get there way to change things that no one ever asked for. 

And of course bilingualism, multiculturalism and massive third world immigration are but three more communist programs and agendas that the majority of Canadians never asked for but got shoved down their throats. 

I am sure that if comrade old man Trudeau could have got his way he would probably try to change our dollar to french francs. Might as well now as this country is pretty now owned by french Quebec. It's now unilingualism for french Quebec but bilingualism for the rest of English Canada. A great deal, eh? ?

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21 hours ago, Aristides said:

Britain is metric, the US is the holdout.

I can remember when the communists tried to have America become metric back when Ronald Reagan was President. And I remember well Reagan saying that there will be not metric for America. His last words on metric were "metric, you have walked your last kilometer". ?

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4 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

 

 

You've said some batshit crazy things before but blaming the metric system for gas prices maybe my new favorite. I'll put aside the fact that metric is objectively and demonstrably a far better system. That's like getting mad that im shorter in metric because i only measure 1.89 as apossed to imperial where im 6'3.

I find it hard to believe that what you spout are sincere opinions and you're not just playing a character.

Though I will thank you for reminding me why i stopped coming here

The imperial system worked just fine when it was being used in Canada way back when. There was no demand to change to metric at all. Just a few commies that wanted to stir up the shit like old man communist Trudeau did with forcing metric on Canada. 

It's too bad that you have a problem with accepting other members opinions and beliefs and points of view

Well, if it is because of me that stopped you from coming here, well just wait, I got more batshit crazy stuff coming to read if you decide to stick around. Otherwise, goodbye, it's been a slice. LOL. 

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On 8/3/2021 at 5:59 AM, OftenWrong said:

Metric system was imposed to hide the truth and confuse people.

Whereas imperial is the more sensible from an anthropocentric perspective.

The shift to metric was a sea-change in our values, not just values.

Whereas man was at the centre of things, by the pound, by the foot,

by the yard,

they seek to impose their neo-empericalism

and state "there is a meter".

or is that "metre"

how about some coffee, sir?

sure, I'll take 454 grams...

When I drive under an overpass I see signs saying 5.78 M. What the hell is that in feet and inches in English? ?

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