betsy Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 While Trudeau speaks in Surrey BC today - you could see the "crowd" in front of him through the reflection in the mirror behind him. Other than journalists - I don't see any crowd. Apparently - according to a journalist - there were anti-vaxxer protesters nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 From Angus Reid, a breakdown of polls: "O'Toole and Singh warming up voters as Trudeau turns them off: Poll Asked if their views of leaders are improving, worsened or stayed the same, 22% say their opinion of NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has improved, 20% say their impression of Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole has improved, while just 6% say their impression of Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has improved. When it comes to regional break downs of voter support, the Conservatives have a slight lead over the NDP and Liberals in British Columbia – 32% CPC, 30% NDP and 27% LPC. The Conservatives dominate across Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba with a minimum 20-point lead in each province. Where the race is tightening, according to the Angus Reid Institute, is in Ontario and Atlantic Canada." https://torontosun.com/news/election-2021/otoole-and-singh-warming-up-voters-as-trudeau-turns-them-off-poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 talk to me when O'Toole is crushing it in Ontario and Trudeau is shitting the bed in Quebec or any optimism that Trudeau will lose is bound to end in disappointment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Uh-oh. Trudeau has pulled away and is leading again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Momentum is going to O'Toole. A sign that Trudeau is in trouble. People may be waking up to ask "why are we having an election again ?" and that's very bad for him. There are a surprising number of Tory signs in my neighbourhood. Last election I didn't see any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Whatever the polls say we shouldn't forget that Liberal support is always concentrated where it matters most. I'm resigned to a very likely Liberal majority but I will always get out and vote. Even if your Party of choice isn't going to win there is still the per vote subsidy to think about. They can survive to fight another day. Parliament shouldn't be a woke echo chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Argus said: There are a surprising number of Tory signs in my neighbourhood. Last election I didn't see any. And my Liberal stronghold has NDP signs everywhere. I get the point about Ontario and Quebec but we're looking at a Liberal minority at best I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Shady said: What a difference. It is said that he even put the makeup on under his clothes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: And my Liberal stronghold has NDP signs everywhere. I get the point about Ontario and Quebec but we're looking at a Liberal minority at best I think. Yes I agree. If I were to bet money now, I’d bet liberal minority government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: And my Liberal stronghold has NDP signs everywhere. I get the point about Ontario and Quebec but we're looking at a Liberal minority at best I think. If Libs will win again - I do hope so that they get a very weak minority! Serves them right for calling an unnecessary election in the middle of a crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) I wonder if she ever made a plea for her OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS - the Afghan allies - to have them evacuated asap - long before Kabul fell to her beloved brothers, the Taliban? I wonder if she nagged Trudeau and Sajjan about them? Reminding Trudeau and Sajjan that her other brothers and sisters have risked their lives for Canada? I wonder if she reminded them what happens to sisters under her beloved brother, Taliban? I wonder if she ever spoke on tv - addressing her brothers and sisters - who now fear for their lives - to give them moral support in this great time of uncertainty and danger? I wonder if she ever reached out to her brothers - the Afghan interpreters, who have been in Canada - especially the ones we see on tv, calling to our government - to help their endangered families? Was she there to be with them when our Afghan community marched to plead for help for their families left in Afghanistan? Edited August 26, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) But it was the way she addressed the Taliban -- a listed terrorist entity in Canada -- that quickly prompted a flood of tweets, including from alt-right pundits, accusing her of supporting or sympathizing with the extremist regime that seized control of Afghanistan nearly two weeks ago. Like always, though, context and nuance are important -- never more so than during a heated federal election campaign and in the midst of a pandemic that has seen hate crimes spike across the country. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/maryam-monsef-called-the-taliban-e2-80-98brothers-e2-80-99-here-e2-80-99s-what-you-need-to-know/ar-AANJYzJ You got that right! CONTEXT and NUANCE are important. The only context I see is the nuance of legitimizing the TALIBAN - by referring to them as "brothers" in an ELECTION CAMPAIGN - in a press conference! You don't have to refer to them publicly as "brothers" when you are the MINISTER for GENDER EQUALITY................... when you know very well what happens to women and girls who will have to live under the Taliban rule! Your brothers have killed NATO soldiers - including Canadians - during the war! Referring to them as "brothers" on national tv - could that be a coded message for................................. .........................."BRAVO? You got the Western bastards withdrawing?" Edited August 26, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Afghanistan is not an important election issue it will not effect the outcome of this election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Hey, Maryam - being the MINISTER for GENDER EQUALITY - why don't you plead to your Taliban brothers to not scrap...................... but instead, to continue with the gender equality program that had been started in Afghanistan? We should send you as an envoy to them. When Taliban shot Malala in the head, this is what she did. Her story https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/newsindia/when-taliban-shot-malala-in-the-head-this-is-what-she-did-her-story/ar-AANIGaT Edited August 26, 2021 by betsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) This CTV journalist named KEVIN GALLAGHER must be hard of hearing. He kept badgering O'Toole about what specifics O'Toole would've done now about operational procedures in Afghanistan, if he were the PM. O'Toole had clearly stated that Trudeau had acted soooooo slowly, even when he was informed and warned months or even years before to act! Gallagher can't seem to put one and one together - and couldn't connect the dots! He make it seem like O'Toole was evading and not giving any answers! HE DID ANSWER YOU! It's just that.....O'Toole's answer went over your head, Kevin. ? Had O'toole been the PM - it wouldn't have come to this! THAT'S THE POINT! THIS SITUATION WE'RE IN NOW WAS PREVENTABLE! O'Toole would've listened and acted upon it pronto. That's why he's pointing at Trudeau's INACTION! DOH! Lol. This situation is preventable! It was because Trudeau didn't pay attention that's why we have this dire situation trying to get Canadians and Afghan allies! As usual, Trudeau reacted too late! Edited August 26, 2021 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) This morning, Nanos polls shows Conservatives slightly ahead of the Liberlas. O'Toole's favourability rating as PM also went up. Lol - I'm not gonna pay attention to the polls! I'll end up with ulcers. Edited August 26, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Trudeau's looking more inept than usual. Maybe he's being shown as the self-serving flake he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Trudeau is going to lose> I don't think so. It will be Canadians who will lose no matter who is elected. They are all the same. Nobody has the balls to address real issues like: 1 - A commitment to a two-tiered Health care system. A private care alongside a universally accessible public Health care system. The current public system has become a killing ground for sick people with overcrowded hospitals, emergency cares, ling waiting list for surgeries and diagnostic tests and shortage of doctors and nurses. 2 - A return to Capital Punishment for violent offenders, especially crimes against women and children 3 - A serious cut in immigration levels when Canada is facing such challenging times and selectivity of immigrants to eliminated undesirable harmful immigrants from some Middle Eastern countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 You sound like a Conservative . . . . responsible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 So far just about everyone called me a Liberal supporter or Trudeau supporter. This is first of its kind!!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 I don’t know how long it’ll last, but watch out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 I'm not getting too excited, it's too early, I'm still betting on a Liberal minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Remember that the Conservatives got more votes last time and still wound up with far fewer seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 I think that the situation in the US is helping the Conservatives quite a bit. Canadians are seeing Biden's weakness play out in Afghanistan with very real consequences, and Trudeau is the exact same patsy. Wokeness isn't dead, but it's getting people massacred now, so the Libs have dropped 2% in the polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 O'Toole . . . . military man. Trudeau . . man? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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