betsy Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Trudeau is promising a lot of things again. But let's not forget......he's had a pattern of not delivering his promise. These are all just carrots he dangles right now to win the election. So - that definitely puts him out of the equation for me. At best - if Progressive Conservatives won't win the election - never mind majority - I'd like another small minority government. I like to see if Bloc Quebecois will deliver on their senior's policy - 10% increase FOR ALL seniors. I don't know what his other health care policies are, which includes Long-term care. I would want to know what O'Toole's and Singh's policies are. If we're going down the way of socialism - I'd better start thinking what's in it FOR ME! This time - emphasis is on ME! Edited August 20, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 1:25 PM, Argus said: Care to tell me what lottery numbers you've decided on for next Saturday's 649 draw? Argus, there is no hard decision here, if you have half a brain. Trudeau must go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 17 hours ago, PIK said: Easy. O'Toole is doing well. This is far from over. Lets get rid of Trudeau 1st, then things can be discussed. I do not trust comrade Fidel Trudeau in this election. That commie wants to keep his crime mistake of Canada job, and I think that he will try to do anything to try and rig and win this election. If that fool gets his old job back, then we have to assume and consider that he had something to do with his return to power. Everybody I talk to hates this commie. This fool should be hopefully gone in the next election. If not, and Fidel wins, then something went terribly wrong with this election and it all went in Fidel's favor. Only time will tell now. Just saying. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) On 8/18/2021 at 2:28 PM, Army Guy said: Have you looked at the Conservative platform, lots of spending going on in fact it is spread out over 10 years... i seem to recall that very promise from Justin ....but hey politicians can promise the moon and deliver piles of bullshit. Aga Khan was not fake, costumes in India was not fake,3 times Black face was not fake, groping allegations were not fake, SNC was not fake, nor was all the lying and cover ups fake... And how they handled the Justice minister not fake, WE scandal not fake, Signing on to the new NATO charter, and then telling the world Canada has no intentions of spending the 2 % that was not fake, Not to mention the long list of failed promises they are not fake, not to mention all the cock ups on important files they are not fake... Canada has had enough of fake ... This is a myth, why is it that the conservatives have a climate change plan, it may not be up to liberal standards, but then again liberals have not got much to stand on except a lot of promises not yet kept or put into action...taxing the shit out of fossil fuels is not going to get us any where. Voters are interested , and the fat lady has not sung just yet... where you see nothing but fear, i see hope... ....and may I add, Liberals always too slow to react to crisis isn't fake! Edited August 21, 2021 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has the strongest leadership numbers of all the party leaders in a new Ipsos poll exclusive to Global News released on Friday. Thirty-nine per cent of those polled found Trudeau was the best person to lead the country, followed by Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole at 25 per cent and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh at 23 per cent. https://globalnews.ca/video/8127258/canada-election-trudeau-has-strongest-leadership-numbers-in-ipsos-poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Doesn't change the fact that he's a shallow self-serving fool to most thinking Canadians, and a weak ineffectual flake to real world leaders . . . . . . but, a hero to the politically lazy eastern Canadian voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Nanos. Its tied. Trudeau sinking like a rock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has the strongest leadership numbers of all the party leaders in a new Ipsos poll exclusive to Global News released on Friday. Thirty-nine per cent of those polled found Trudeau was the best person to lead the country, followed by Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole at 25 per cent and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh at 23 per cent. https://globalnews.ca/video/8127258/canada-election-trudeau-has-strongest-leadership-numbers-in-ipsos-poll Which shows how ignorant people are. He's been in office since 2015 and has still been unable to make a decision about a simple matter like whether to renovate or tear down the prime minister's official residence. Leadership includes making decisions, not putting them off because you're afraid you'll be criticized. By the way, have they made a decision about a new replacement fighter jet yet? We're six years on with that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has the strongest leadership numbers of all the party leaders in a new Ipsos poll exclusive to Global News released on Friday. Thirty-nine per cent of those polled found Trudeau was the best person to lead the country, followed by Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole at 25 per cent and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh at 23 per cent. https://globalnews.ca/video/8127258/canada-election-trudeau-has-strongest-leadership-numbers-in-ipsos-poll Not anymore. Down to 32. The nightly tracking data, ending Friday, suggests 32.2 per cent of respondents ranked Trudeau first, down from 35.6 per cent on Aug. 12, while 24.8 per cent ranked O’Toole first, up from 17.7 per cent.https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/federal-election-2021/2021/8/21/1_5556161.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) Tories pounce after Trudeau says monetary policy isn't a top priority for Liberals https://financialpost.com/news/election-2021/trudeau-puts-families-ahead-of-monetary-policy-on-priority-list Lol - no kidding. We've seen him waste our money in fuck-up ventures! Like buying that second-hand rusty pipeline for billions of dollars.....................which we could've had for free! Edited August 22, 2021 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, betsy said: Tories pounce after Trudeau says monetary policy isn't a top priority for Liberals https://financialpost.com/news/election-2021/trudeau-puts-families-ahead-of-monetary-policy-on-priority-list Lol - no kidding. We've seen him waste our money in fuck-up ventures! Like buying that second-hand rusty pipeline.....which we could've had for free! I think everyone could tell. It’s too bad that he’s too f**king stupid to understand that monetary policy has significant impacts on the family‘s lives he says he cares about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 While I am not happy to defend Mr. Trudeau, the spending over the last 20 months was unavoidable. Some of the willfully ignorant said the messaging from Public Health was confusing, but Premier Higgs put it in plain English: "Stay the Blazes home." In order to get people to stay home for a year and a half, you have to give them financial support. There was little time to act, but with all party, and Provincial support, Canadians have weathered the pandemic so far. How do you get people to stay home if they have no money coming in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: While I am not happy to defend Mr. Trudeau, the spending over the last 20 months was unavoidable. Some of the willfully ignorant said the messaging from Public Health was confusing, but Premier Higgs put it in plain English: "Stay the Blazes home." In order to get people to stay home for a year and a half, you have to give them financial support. There was little time to act, but with all party, and Provincial support, Canadians have weathered the pandemic so far. How do you get people to stay home if they have no money coming in? I don't know if anyone here complains about the spending over the last 20 months. But, you've got to admit - he was late in reacting to covid. When did he close our borders? That's always the case with him - there is no initiative. He reacts too late. It's always DAMAGE CONTROL! Our economy started to suffer just BEFORE COVID. Remember the Blockades that were happening all over the place with indigenuous people? He was away - and his people were urging him to come home right away because of that growing crisis! Instead, he took his time! He's always late to react! Now - Medecino is saying on CBC: Oh, we'll remove the red tape for afghan allies. Lol - isn't that a bit too late again? What red tape are you on about when they can't even come to the airport! Edited August 22, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 So he stands there in BC - at a time when wildfires are burning, and he proudly announced training 1,000 firefighters NEXT YEAR! Hahahaha - hello? That should've been done years ago! We've been having fires after fires, year after year! Hello? And you only thought of that this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) I think he is a student of MacKenzie King. The best process, politically, is to recognize a problem early, work on a solution while everyone else is recognizing the problem, wait until they are screaming for a solution and then, and only then, act. The reaction to the pandemic was different. The crisis hit faster than governments could react and it was an unprecedented event. There has never been a rapidly spreading plague in modern times with the innovations in transportation and civil rights. The idea of closing the Canada- US border was thought to be impossible but the co-ordination between the Trudeau and Trump governments made it possible. Also, the opposition parties and the provincial government set partisanship aside to make Canada's response as effective as it could be. Edited August 22, 2021 by Queenmandy85 Punctuation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, betsy said: So he stands there in BC - at a time when wildfires are burning, and he proudly announced training 1,000 firefighters NEXT YEAR! Hahahaha - hello? That should've been done years ago! We've been having fires after fires, year after year! Hello? And you only thought of that this year? If you hire 1000 firefighters and 2000 nurses before a crisis, people will say you are over spending for a bloated government. We also want a military with that 2% of GDP idea, but Canadians don't want to pay for it. We could spend 5% and it still would not be strong enough to defend the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: If you hire 1000 firefighters and 2000 nurses before a crisis, people will say you are over spending for a bloated government. We also want a military with that 2% of GDP idea, but Canadians don't want to pay for it. We could spend 5% and it still would not be strong enough to defend the country. When did he ever listen to people with matters of spending? Lol. We've seen that when he gets his mind into buying something - he'll buy it! Like, having a seat at that blasted Security Council! "Trudeau's Spending Priorities Send Too Many Tax Dollars Overseas $4.3 billion spent outside of the country will buy you a lot of thanks from some organizations such as the UN or from climate change conferences. That type of spending will also earn you a lot of selfies to up your political profile. But in the end it is our taxpayers footing the bill. Spending priorities are always set by the prime minister. It is interesting to note that the $5.3 billion that Trudeau spent in his first 100 days almost matches the funds that the Liberals under Paul Martin were going to spend on the Kelowna Accord to help our First Nations. " https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/keith-beardsley/trudeau-deficit_b_9226722.html Or, the wasted pipeline as an example! So.....making people the excuse for it doesn't fly! Firefighters and nurses were already needed more than a year ago! Didn't he point out to armed forces having to help out? Wasn't he reading the papers or watching the news, listening to healthcare people? Why is he promising that just now for September's election? Edited August 23, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) ....and, why is this a secret? Trudeau government won't say who got billions of dollars in aid While some payments have been revealed, the destination of billions of dollars in aid remains secret An investigation by CBC News reveals, however, that the Trudeau government hasn't been entirely transparent about where COVID-19 aid worth billions of dollars has gone. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-spending-government-transparency-1.5826917 Edited August 23, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 On Afghan rescue mission: Germany sends buses! France sends helicopters! Canada sends EMAILS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) From CTV Question Period yesterday: Nanos latest polls shows the race tightening. Liberals lead only 2 points, and according to Nanos, it's O'Toole who has the momentum! O'toole picked up from undecided voters. Don't bother with the CBC Liberal mouthpiece fake poll tracker. They're batting for Trudeau - since he just threw them some more millions. Edited August 23, 2021 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Trudeau has this in the bag those indulging in wishful thinking are going to be disappointed brace yourselves now, deluding yourself does you no good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) I won't be disappointed. My party is the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada and it is not running in this election. So I have the luxury of being free to choose. I am leaning towards the CPC in spite of the residual influence from Preston Manning's communist reform / socialist credit scammers. Who ever is elected, they are going to have to raise taxes and cut spending to pay for the covid response and the ramping up of the fight against climate change. I've learned to wait for the critical moment to predict the outcome of an election. I intend to make my final prediction on Sept. 24th. Stay tuned. Edited August 23, 2021 by Queenmandy85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 hours ago, betsy said: ....and, why is this a secret? An investigation by CBC News reveals, however, that the Trudeau government hasn't been entirely transparent about where COVID-19 aid worth billions of dollars has gone. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-spending-government-transparency-1.5826917 "An investigation by CBC News . . . . . " Well, we'll stay tuned for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 My fear about the Grits is that once they found out how easy it was tp spend vast treasure in the necessary fight against Covid, a billion dollars doesn't seem like a big deal anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said: "An investigation by CBC News . . . . . " Well, we'll stay tuned for that one. Hahahaha.....they just got millions from Trudeau. Will they bite the hand that feeds them? Edited August 23, 2021 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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