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8 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I dispute your pathetic attempt to equivocate those so-called “disputes” with Trumps Big Lie. Even the controversial Bush-Gore election where dispute was fully justified, Gore conceded. 
 

The fascist attempt to destroy democracy isn’t just the violent Jan 6 mob unleashed on the capital (which may or may not have been intentional). 
 

Promoting the Big Lie itself is an assault on democracy and Trumps behind-the-scenes attempts to pressure state officials to doctor their counts in his favour (see his phone call with Georgia officials) is most certainly an assault on democracy. 

You keep talking about fascism but you don't know what it is.

For the record, the fascists are firmly on your side.Antifa-violence-spree.thumb.jpg.d0a917e036a5a92e057dfea51433edf8.jpg

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11 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

And @WestCanMan and @ironstone:  I notice that neither of you are actually defending the Big Lie but are restoring to “but but the Democrats did…” whataboutery.
 

Does your shift to a  “but everyone does it” argument mean you’re admitting that Trump’s Big Lie was in fact a big lie after all?

Using your own grammar against you I agree.

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23 minutes ago, ironstone said:

You keep talking about fascism but you don't know what it is.

For the record, the fascists are firmly on your side.Antifa-violence-spree.thumb.jpg.d0a917e036a5a92e057dfea51433edf8.jpg

You are the one who doesn’t know what fascism is. Authoritarianism can be left wing or right wing. Fascism  is the name for right wing authoritarianism.   Period. 
 

That’s why there were so many neo-nazi group attending the “unite the right” rally in Charlottesville. Neo Nazis support Trump 

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58 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Fascism  is the name for right wing authoritarianism.

Not only. The definition has been debated many times. The phrase was coined during Mussolini and literally means "the face way", kind of like Big Brother images on building walls, a cult of personality.

"Fascism can also be called corporatism" to paraphrase a quote attributed to Mussolini, although it might not have been his.

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25 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trump for sure has that authoritarian bent, and the Nazis do love him.  I don't think you can say he's a Nazi though.

Are there many leaders today without some "authoritarian bent"? Or what is leader to you people... let me guess, a posse decides. Spokesman for the mob. Moderator

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24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You can try to imagine any Canadian party leader declaring that the election was stolen, and working behind the scenes to get party cohorts to throw the election.

I'm not convinced it wasn't stolen, with the last minute changes to rules. But I don't really care. It's more like tabloid news.

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1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

Not only. The definition has been debated many times. The phrase was coined during Mussolini and literally means "the face way", kind of like Big Brother images on building walls, a cult of personality.

"Fascism can also be called corporatism" to paraphrase a quote attributed to Mussolini, although it might not have been his.

Fascism comes from the Latin word fasces. 


Fasces, insignia of official authority in ancient Rome. The name derives from the plural form of the Latin fascis (“bundle”)
 

The fasces was carried by the lictors, or attendants, and was characterized by an ax head projecting from a bundle of elm or birch rods about 5 feet (1.5 metres) long and tied together with a red strap; it symbolized penal power….

Benito Mussolini’s Fascist Party of Italy was named for the fasces, which the members adopted in 1919 as their emblem. 

 

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https://www.britannica.com/topic/fasces

 

Fasism is always socially conservative, (i.e. “traditional values” and gender roles,contempt for foreigners, immigrants, minorities and foreign cultures/religions, promising to restore some long lost golden age when everything was right). Fascism also pro-business as your quote from Mussolini indicates and the tycoons and oligarchs enjoy special treatment from government or even become government officials.
 

Fascists also view themselves as the natural enemies of socialists and communists and openly persecute these groups. 

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trump for sure has that authoritarian bent, and the Nazis do love him.  I don't think you can say he's a Nazi though.

Antifa loves the Democrats. Many Democrats are rather supportive of Antifa and the tactics they use.

As to your other post that Trump is trying to steal the election, that's a huge stretch. Does he dispute it? Of course and and he has the right to his opinion just as Hillary Clinton and Al Gore and many Democrats have disputed election results.

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36 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Fascism comes from the Latin word fasces. 


Fasces, insignia of official authority in ancient Rome. The name derives from the plural form of the Latin fascis (“bundle”)
 

The fasces was carried by the lictors, or attendants, and was characterized by an ax head projecting from a bundle of elm or birch rods about 5 feet (1.5 metres) long and tied together with a red strap; it symbolized penal power….

Benito Mussolini’s Fascist Party of Italy was named for the fasces, which the members adopted in 1919 as their emblem. 

 

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https://www.britannica.com/topic/fasces

 

Fasism is always socially conservative, (i.e. “traditional values” and gender roles,contempt for foreigners, immigrants, minorities and foreign cultures/religions, promising to restore some long lost golden age when everything was right). Fascism also pro-business as your quote from Mussolini indicates and the tycoons and oligarchs enjoy special treatment from government or even become government officials.
 

Fascists also view themselves as the natural enemies of socialists and communists and openly persecute these groups. 

I think history shows that socialists and communists have been persecutors way more than persecuted. Actually one does not really persecute against those with a love of authoritarianism(socialists,communists)as stand up to them.

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40 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Antifa loves the Democrats. Many Democrats are rather supportive of Antifa and the tactics they use.

As to your other post that Trump is trying to steal the election, that's a huge stretch. Does he dispute it? Of course and and he has the right to his opinion just as Hillary Clinton and Al Gore and many Democrats have disputed election results.

That’s not true.

 

Most Antifa think the there’s little real difference between Democrats and Republicans and that both parties are corrupt  They’re not completely wrong. 
 

Give me one example of Democrats supportive of Antifa. 
 

Trump is doing a hell of a lot more than simply disputing the results  or expressing a personal opinion. Don’t try to minimize his attempts to steal the election and delegitimize democracy. 

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40 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Actually one does not really persecute against those with a love of authoritarianism(socialists,communists)as stand up to them.

Goebbels himself couldn’t have said it better.  And if you believe marching families into concentration camps, gas chambers or infront of firing squads is simply “standing up to them” then you’re definitely a fascist. 

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2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

That’s not true.

 

Most Antifa think the there’s little real difference between Democrats and Republicans and that both parties are corrupt  They’re not completely wrong. 
 

Give me one example of Democrats supportive of Antifa. 
 

Trump is doing a hell of a lot more than simply disputing the results  or expressing a personal opinion. Don’t try to minimize his attempts to steal the election and delegitimize democracy. 

DNC deputy chair Keith Ellison signals support for Antifa | Fox News

DNC Deputy Chairman Keith Ellison Proudly Endorses Antifa by Katie Pavlich (townhall.com)

Biden Says Antifa Is ‘An Idea, Not An Organization’ during Presidential Debate (yahoo.com)

Democrats Whitewash Antifa Rioters as 'Peaceful Protesters' – PJ Media

CNN dedicated a segment to praising Antifa, brushing off their violence with "yes, people get hurt, property gets damaged, things get confusing." Um, what? | Not the Bee

I guess the fact that you're starting with the insults by calling me a fascist indicates you're not interested in a civil discussion and/or you're quite angry behind your keyboard. I get the sense you're pretty hostile to anyone that dares to question you and your beliefs.

For the record, I despise Nazis, Communists, fascists, antifa, other terrorist groups. Probably lot's more that could go on that list.

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On 8/27/2021 at 7:18 AM, BeaverFever said:

No, your batshit distortion of reality is not reality and it doesn’t even make sense 

Here's the breakdown:

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Do you mean like, "Cheating on an election multiple times,

FYI Hillary cheated on the 2016 election 3 times. She conspired with the DNC to win the nomination, she cheated in the debates, then she colluded with foreign agents (including Russians) to influence the election. 

That is 100% true, and not exaggerated in any way shape or form. 

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still losing,

Newsflash - she lost. 

That is 100% true, and not exaggerated in any way shape or form. 

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and then colluding with Russians for

She is known to have given money to a law firm, Perkins Coie, who gave it to a former British spy, Christopher Steele, who paid Russians for 'intel'.

That is 100% true, and not exaggerated in any way shape or form. 

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fake intel

At no point was the status of the 'intel' from the Russians/Steele any better than "unverified".

It's true that the FBI presented it to the FISA court as 'partially verified' but that was a lie. Absolutely nothing of substance that was ever provided to the FBI by Steele was ever verified.

That is 100% true, and not exaggerated in any way shape or form. 

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where their FBI sycophants breaks laws

The FBI absolutely broke laws and it's not a secret.

They withheld exculpatory evidence, they lied to the FISA court about the validity of Steele's intel (and they did that multiple times to get the FISA warrant renewed) they unmasked people illegally, they continued working with Steele after they were told not to, and the whole operation was conducted in a thoroughly biased and dishonest manner. They even lied about the extent of their knowledge to the public to damage the reputation of a sitting president. 

The top 2 FBI agents on the case were fired for their various corrupt activities and an FBI lawyer pled guilty to lying to the FISA court.

That is 100% true, and not exaggerated in any way shape or form. 

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but still can't manage to fabricate enough evidence to advance their fake collusion?" 

The FBI never found any evidence of collusion. IE - they never advanced their case.

At no point in the history of mankind has anyone ever provided a single piece of evidence that showed that the Trump campaign colluded with Russians. 

The Russians were known to have used a FB account to put out attack ads against both candidates in order to sow discord, and it's a fact that the Dems took the bait hook, line and sinker, and it's a fact that the Dems remain their useful idiots to this day, but that's not proof that Trump colluded.

That is all 100% true, and not exaggerated in any way shape or form. 

Stop lying and making baseless insults just because you don't have a single tidbit to add to the discussion.

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On 8/27/2021 at 8:21 AM, BeaverFever said:

And @WestCanMan and @ironstone:  I notice that neither of you are actually defending the Big Lie but are restoring to “but but the Democrats did…” whataboutery.
 

Does your shift to a  “but everyone does it” argument mean you’re admitting that Trump’s Big Lie was in fact a big lie after all?

What "Big Lie"? When did I say "everyone does it"? 

Of course the Dems cheated in 2020. It's impossible for them to have gone from "cheating 24/7, 365 days a year for over 4 years" to "not cheating at all" in one day, and if they did, why would CNN expect that, and how could they know it to be true in advance on election night? You'd have to be a complete retard to suspect that the Dems weren't going to cheat on the 2020 election.

That's like: CNN "Look how fast that shark is swimming towards that wounded seal. It's definitely going to administer first aid to that seal."

Leftards: "That lucky seal is in going to be saved!"

It's a 100% established fact that the Dems lied and cheated from before the 2016 election right up 'til the 2020 election. That's not up for debate. They also spent that whole time creating voter-fraud-friendly election reforms like "no one needs ID to vote", "ballot signatures don't need to match the voter's signatures that are on file", and "ballots can be mass-mailed to the entire electorate, unsolicited", etc.

If Bernie Madoff gets out of jail and comes to you with some great investment opportunities do you start telling all your friends that you've got the inside track to a huge financial windfall? Would you let Ghislaine Maxwell take your daughter or niece away on vacation? Your answer to either of those questions should be no (for gawd's sake please say no to the second one, at the very least) and you shouldn't trust the Dems.

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On 8/27/2021 at 5:43 PM, ironstone said:

DNC deputy chair Keith Ellison signals support for Antifa | Fox News

DNC Deputy Chairman Keith Ellison Proudly Endorses Antifa by Katie Pavlich (townhall.com)

Biden Says Antifa Is ‘An Idea, Not An Organization’ during Presidential Debate (yahoo.com)

Democrats Whitewash Antifa Rioters as 'Peaceful Protesters' – PJ Media

CNN dedicated a segment to praising Antifa, brushing off their violence with "yes, people get hurt, property gets damaged, things get confusing." Um, what? | Not the Bee

I guess the fact that you're starting with the insults by calling me a fascist indicates you're not interested in a civil discussion and/or you're quite angry behind your keyboard. I get the sense you're pretty hostile to anyone that dares to question you and your beliefs.

For the record, I despise Nazis, Communists, fascists, antifa, other terrorist groups. Probably lot's more that could go on that list.

I’m not calling you fascist I’m saying if you think killing families in concentration camps is “standing up to them” then you’re a fascist. Do you think that?

 

Your links above are not examples of Democrats supporting Antifa. It’s Republican propaganda whining that Democrats aren’t being tough enough on Antifa (which is in fact not an organization but an ideology as Biden said - like the right wing Q movement).   Recommending a book about Antifa isn’t the same thing as promoting Antifa just like recommending a book about Nazis or slavery is not promoting Nazis or slavery. 

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8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What "Big Lie"? When did I say "everyone does it"? 

Of course the Dems cheated in 2020. It's impossible for them to have gone from "cheating 24/7, 365 days a year for over 4 years" to "not cheating at all" in one day, and if they did, why would CNN expect that, and how could they know it to be true in advance on election night? You'd have to be a complete retard to suspect that the Dems weren't going to cheat on the 2020 election.

That's like: CNN "Look how fast that shark is swimming towards that wounded seal. It's definitely going to administer first aid to that seal."

Leftards: "That lucky seal is in going to be saved!"

It's a 100% established fact that the Dems lied and cheated from before the 2016 election right up 'til the 2020 election. That's not up for debate. They also spent that whole time creating voter-fraud-friendly election reforms like "no one needs ID to vote", "ballot signatures don't need to match the voter's signatures that are on file", and "ballots can be mass-mailed to the entire electorate, unsolicited", etc.

If Bernie Madoff gets out of jail and comes to you with some great investment opportunities do you start telling all your friends that you've got the inside track to a huge financial windfall? Would you let Ghislaine Maxwell take your daughter or niece away on vacation? Your answer to either of those questions should be no (for gawd's sake please say no to the second one, at the very least) and you shouldn't trust the Dems.

So much bullshit and exaggeration I don’t know where to start   If you believe there was VAST CONSPIRACY to steal the election that includes a whole roster of Republicans and Trump appointees who have otherwise been nothing but loyal Republicans your a crackpot, period.  
 

And this fact has nothing to do with the good or evil character of any Democrats. They could be the most dishonest people in the world for all I care… your insane conspiracy theory is just not plausible Not even remotely Let me reiterate this point:  I’m not saying the Big Lie is impossible because Democrats are too honourable and would never stoop so low, I’m saying the absurd and grandiose conspiracy you’re alleging that left ZERO EVIDENCE  is just not possible by anyone. Get it?

Just to rebut your other comments:

Hillary’s dealings with Dem insiders against Bernie is not “cheating in the election” and its not criminal. As unsavoury as it may be, political parties are free to deal with internal matters as they please. THAT’S A FACT  You think the RNC party establishment doesn’t sideline anti-establishment candidates they don’t like?  
 

The debate fiasco wasn’t illegal either and the person who fed her those 2 questions was fired by CNN  

Both of these revelations were courtesy of the Russian hacking that the Trump team had inside and advance knowledge about. 
 

Lastly the claim that Russians were paid for info is something you’ve simply invented. In addition, if you pay a guy who pays another guy who pays a third guy that you don’t even know exists doesn’t mean you’re colluding with the third guy. So it’s more of your Fake news AND desperate exaggeration. 
 

Trump escaped the Mueller investigation because he tampered with witnesses and obstructed Justice and Bill Barr covered for him. The same Bill Barr that said Trumps Big Lie was total bullshit.  The claim that the Mueller investigation was fabricated but also found nothing makes no sense. If its fabricated then why would they fabricate it to find nothing?   The investigation was not started because of Steele it was started because idiot Trump campaign staff were bragging about their Russian dealings and having meetings with known Russian operatives who are always under US surveillance   And don’t forget:  when asked about these meetings then they lied to the FBI about it which is a crime 

 

 

Youre also badly misinformed about voter ID laws (shocker). Historically Americans have never been required to show photo ID t vote. We’re not required in Canada either. Don’t forget not too many  decades ago Photo ID didn’t even exist   It’s the Republicans who are requiring that because they know poor people who don’t drive and don’t travel abroad tend not to vote Republican. 
 

Ballot signatures are matched in many if not all places. Amd in fact Republicans were having a fit and falsely claiming evidence fraud because some states have cure campaigns for signature mismatches where they actually go to the voters hime to verify before they count the ballot.  Different states have different rules about mailing ballots or applications for ballots and there’s nothing inherently wrong about mailing ballots during a pandemic.
 

And considering this supposed “election steal” would be the grandest conspiracy of all times, involving tens of thousands of people from all walks of life in 538 different voting districts faking 538 different ballot templates and running hundreds of different scams simultaneously with unheard-of level of co-ordination:  ALL WITHOUT LEAVING ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. 

 

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14 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

So much bullshit and exaggeration I don’t know where to start   If you believe there was VAST CONSPIRACY to steal the election that includes a whole roster of Republicans and Trump appointees who have otherwise been nothing but loyal Republicans your a crackpot, period.  
 

And this fact has nothing to do with the good or evil character of any Democrats. They could be the most dishonest people in the world for all I care… your insane conspiracy theory is just not plausible Not even remotely Let me reiterate this point:  I’m not saying the Big Lie is impossible because Democrats are too honourable and would never stoop so low, I’m saying the absurd and grandiose conspiracy you’re alleging that left ZERO EVIDENCE  is just not possible by anyone. Get it?

Just to rebut your other comments:

Hillary’s dealings with Dem insiders against Bernie is not “cheating in the election” and its not criminal. As unsavoury as it may be, political parties are free to deal with internal matters as they please. THAT’S A FACT  You think the RNC party establishment doesn’t sideline anti-establishment candidates they don’t like?  
 

The debate fiasco wasn’t illegal either and the person who fed her those 2 questions was fired by CNN  

Both of these revelations were courtesy of the Russian hacking that the Trump team had inside and advance knowledge about. 
 

Lastly the claim that Russians were paid for info is something you’ve simply invented. In addition, if you pay a guy who pays another guy who pays a third guy that you don’t even know exists doesn’t mean you’re colluding with the third guy. So it’s more of your Fake news AND desperate exaggeration. 
 

Trump escaped the Mueller investigation because he tampered with witnesses and obstructed Justice and Bill Barr covered for him. The same Bill Barr that said Trumps Big Lie was total bullshit.  The claim that the Mueller investigation was fabricated but also found nothing makes no sense. If its fabricated then why would they fabricate it to find nothing?   The investigation was not started because of Steele it was started because idiot Trump campaign staff were bragging about their Russian dealings and having meetings with known Russian operatives who are always under US surveillance   And don’t forget:  when asked about these meetings then they lied to the FBI about it which is a crime 

 

 

Youre also badly misinformed about voter ID laws (shocker). Historically Americans have never been required to show photo ID t vote. We’re not required in Canada either. Don’t forget not too many  decades ago Photo ID didn’t even exist   It’s the Republicans who are requiring that because they know poor people who don’t drive and don’t travel abroad tend not to vote Republican. 
 

Ballot signatures are matched in many if not all places. Amd in fact Republicans were having a fit and falsely claiming evidence fraud because some states have cure campaigns for signature mismatches where they actually go to the voters hime to verify before they count the ballot.  Different states have different rules about mailing ballots or applications for ballots and there’s nothing inherently wrong about mailing ballots during a pandemic.
 

And considering this supposed “election steal” would be the grandest conspiracy of all times, involving tens of thousands of people from all walks of life in 538 different voting districts faking 538 different ballot templates and running hundreds of different scams simultaneously with unheard-of level of co-ordination:  ALL WITHOUT LEAVING ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. 

 

COMICAL

You're such a sucker for leftist bullshit.

For starters, I said that Hillary/the Dems cheated on the election 3 times and I was 100% correct. That's actually just the number of times that she got caught. 

Trump never colluded with the Russians and no one has ever found any evidence of that. Zero.

The CEO of crowdstrike already said that he has doesn't know for certain about the hacking theory, and even if that idiot did get hacked when she was storing data illegally, no one knows that wikileaks got their info from hackers. The data breach happened right after the whole planet found out that the Dmes screwed Bernie, it's pretty obvious that 50% of Dem supporters and 100% of GOP supporters would have been happy to leak her skeezy details.  Assange himself said that he got his info from leakers, and unlike the Dems, the FBI, CNN and every other discredited source that you choose to follow, Assange has a flawless record of protecting his sources and telling the truth about where he got his info from. I'm not saying that his word is gold, but it counts for more than all those others.

 

Mail-in ballots are by far the most fraud friendly way of holding elections. Since the beginning of elections, it's just been a big, fat, juicy target, made even easier by Dem policies like "signature matching is racist" and "unsolicited ballots should be mailed out to everyone". Just because the Dems didn't get caught doesn't mean that they didn't cheat, and the likelihood of them not cheating is less than zero.

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21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

For starters, I said that Hillary/the Dems cheated on the election 3 times and I was 100% correct. 

Not jot correct and its already rebutted. Repeating your nonsense doesn’t move your argument forward. 
 

 

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The CEO of crowdstrike already said that he has doesn't know for certain about the hacking theory

That’s such a blatant lie you should be ashamed.  He said the exact opposite and you’ve been shown the link to their webpage where he says it was definitely the Russians and attempts to deflect suspicion from the Russians are misguided.  It’s hard to tell wjen you’re lying and when you’re purposely wiping your memory because you’re so brainwashed but here it is agains;

 

Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC? 

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network…..This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017,  that Russia was behind the DNC data breach…

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Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24:

  1. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.  And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. 

Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?

Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32)  and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, the Intelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

It goes on in quite some detail. The Republican apologists trying to protect Russia are making the absurd and never-before-heard argument that since Crowdstrike gathered their evidence after the crime occurred and wasn’t there to witness the crime in real time as it was actually happening “there’s no proof”   How retarded does someone have to be to believe that?  Imagine if cops could only arrest murderers if the police officer is present to witness the murder with his own eyes as it was actually happening and actual evidence didn’t matter?

 

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The data breach happened right after the whole planet found out that the Dmes screwed Bernie,

Another lie. The world found out after the data breach and the emails were leaked

 

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Mail-in ballots are by far the most fraud friendly way of holding elections. Since the beginning of elections, it's just been a big, fat, juicy target, made even easier by Dem policies like "signature matching is racist" and "unsolicited ballots should be mailed out to everyone". Just because the Dems didn't get caught doesn't mean that they didn't cheat, and the likelihood of them not cheating is less than zero.

Already rebutted. Also do you know what hypocrite you sound like when you essentially say ‘Trump never got caught colluding therefore he never did anything wrong” and then twice in the same post say  “Just because the Dems didn’t get caught doesn’t mean they didn’t cheat”. 
 

Why do you think it’s fair to claim unproven accusations about Democrats are true, while at the same time saying allegations against Trump are untrue because they’ve never been proven?  Don’t you think that makes you a shameless hypocrite? 

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2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Not jot correct and its already rebutted. Repeating your nonsense doesn’t move your argument forward. 
 

 

That’s such a blatant lie you should be ashamed.  He said the exact opposite and you’ve been shown the link to their webpage where he says it was definitely the Russians and attempts to deflect suspicion from the Russians are misguided.  It’s hard to tell wjen you’re lying and when you’re purposely wiping your memory because you’re so brainwashed but here it is agains;

 

Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC? 

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network…..This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017,  that Russia was behind the DNC data breach…

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Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24:

  1. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.  And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. 

Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?

Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32)  and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, the Intelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

 

1- Of course Hillary cheated 3 times. She cheated at the debate - that's cheating. She conspired with the head of the DNC to win the Primary - that's cheating. She colluded with Russians to get the fake collusion investigation started - that's cheating.

It may seem like all of those things are on the up & up to you, but you have no relationship with the truth.

 

Crowdstrike:

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.html 

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CrowdStrike President Shawn Henry's admission under oath,  in a recently declassified December 2017 interview before the House Intelligence Committee,

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Henry personally led the remediation and forensics analysis of the DNC server after being warned of a breach in late April 2016; his work was paid for by the DNC, which refused to turn over its server to the FBI. Asked for the date when alleged Russian hackers stole data from the DNC server, Henry testified that CrowdStrike did not in fact know if such a theft occurred at all: "We did not have concrete evidence that the data was exfiltrated [moved electronically] from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated," Henry said.

Henry reiterated his claim on multiple occasions: 

  • "There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left."
  • "There’s not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. There's circumstantial evidence but no evidence that they were actually exfiltrated."
  • "There is circumstantial evidence that that data was exfiltrated off the network. … We didn't have a sensor in place that saw data leave. We said that the data left based on the circumstantial evidence. That was the conclusion that we made."
  • "Sir, I was just trying to be factually accurate, that we didn't see the data leave, but we believe it left, based on what we saw."
  • Asked directly if he could "unequivocally say" whether "it was or was not exfiltrated out of DNC," Henry told the committee: "I can't say based on that." 

That's what he said under oath, but let's pretend that what he says when he's shooting the shit and what he says when he's under oath are equally accurate - we'll call it a draw lol. 

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11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1- Of course Hillary cheated 3 times. She cheated at the debate - that's cheating. She conspired with the head of the DNC to win the Primary - that's cheating. She colluded with Russians to get the fake collusion investigation started - that's cheating.

It may seem like all of those things are on the up & up to you, but you have no relationship with the truth.

Your description of those events  all exaggerated and distorted and aside from that even if we take your exaggerated descriptions at face value ITS A FACT THAT NONE OF IT IS ILLEGAL. PERIOD. 
 

 

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's what he said under oath, but let's pretend that what he says when he's shooting the shit and what he says when he's under oath are equally accurate - we'll call it a draw lol. 

Any desperate straw-clutching excuse to defend the Russians lol. Crowdstrike and literally every security agency has said it was the Russians. Crowdstrike witnessed in real time not one but two Russian government entities active on the DNC sever. Saying “but but but they didn’t witness the data being exfiltrated” in some desperate way to think it must be some other hackers who left no trace.  
 

You come home to find a group of burglars in your home with safe-cracking equipment and you chase them off. You find your safe is cracked open and your valuables are missing but you didn’t see the burglars actually take your valuables. Republican conclusion:  there’s “no proof” the professional safe-cracking burglars cracked your safe and burgled your valuables,  it could have just as easily been the cleaning lady leaving absolutely no trace or maybe even a ghost!

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