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6 minutes ago, taxme said:

It would appear as though most of our Canadian political leaders have become nothing more than a bunch of welfare recipient lazy buffoons and liars and who are pretty much in bed  and are on the payroll of the deep state big pharma globalist machine. Everything that they have done up to now with this covid virus scamdemic has led me to come to this conclusion. Are our dear pro globalist political leaders being bribed by receiving political contributions to keep this covid virus scamdemic going and to get the sheeple to be vaccinated by the hundreds of millions so big pharma globalists can make trillions of dollars? This has to be one big globalist scamdemic indeed. 

Indeed, a tiny cabal of pro globalist great reset scum in the PMO's office is behind this covid scamdemic. No virus has ever lasted this long which has and is still being used to stifle our freedoms forever. Sadly, our dear political leaders cannot be blamed for this travesty of justice.  It is the stupid sheeple that keep this scamdemic going. Pathetic.  

no argument from me

the Canadian political class is indeed utterly corrupt & corrupting

because the purpose of Canada itself

to keep the French in, the Americans out, and the Indians down

is inherently corrupt & corrupting

culture is destiny, this is the nature of Canada

can't kill an idea, even if it is a bad idea in the end

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22 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

no argument from me

the Canadian political class is indeed utterly corrupt & corrupting

because the purpose of Canada itself

to keep the French in, the Americans out, and the Indians down

is inherently corrupt & corrupting

culture is destiny, this is the nature of Canada

can't kill an idea, even if it is a bad idea in the end

The socialist/communist french of Quebec starting with old man communist Trudeau have pretty much destroyed what once was a great white and British/European country called English Canada. The french have corrupted and have pretty much bankrupted English Canada. Quebec was always a corrupt province since it's beginning. English Canada was a great English speaking country until the french moved into Ottawa where they then began to work on destroying English Canada where they were now able to steal billions of tax dollars from the rest of English Canada and bring those tax dollars to Quebec. 

Multiculturalism was their ploy in trying to destroy English Canada by flooding English Canada with millions of third world refugees and new non-white immigrants in order to try and destroy English Canada. Meanwhile, Quebec was able to declare itself a unilingual french speaking province only while the rest of Canada had to accept bilingualism. 

Canada is in a totally phuk'd up mess thanks to french Quebec. In order to try and get our English Canadian house back in order, English Canada must now try to separate from the french communist controlled province called Quebec if English Canada is to try and survive and hang onto their language, culture and traditions. The people coming from the 3rd world will not help English Canada to try and survive it's culture because they have been told that they do not have to assimilate into English Canada's culture anymore. And they do not do and act like they should assimilate. These new immigrants act and live like they did from whence they came and have started up their won 3rd world turfs right here in English Canada. In Quebec, that will not be tolerated. Assimilate into french culture or leave. Pathetic indeed. 

GO, QUEBEC,GO. Works for me. :D

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6 minutes ago, taxme said:

The socialist/communist french of Quebec starting with old man communist Trudeau have pretty much destroyed what once was a great white and British/European country called English Canada.

English Canada was simply annexed by American Manifest Destiny

it's just Americans with public healthcare who would vote Democrat if they were allowed to

the Liberals simply fill the void by being the farm team for the Democrats in Ottawa

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just look at the CBC now

they are no longer Canadian at all

the CBC is just the farm team for the American Liberal media

the CBC spends all its time raging at the Republicans as if we were somehow the opposition to the left in Canada

that's what the Canadian Blue State Democrats want to see, the CBC panders to its base

the only difference between PBS South & PBS North is that PBS North is still funded by the taxpayers

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16 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

English Canada was simply annexed by American Manifest Destiny

it's just Americans with public healthcare who would vote Democrat if they were allowed to

the Liberals simply fill the void by being the farm team for the Democrats in Ottawa

English Canada and English America are now finding themselves fighting for their very survival as the democrats are now trying to flood America with millions of illegals just like comrade Trudeau is doing to Canada. It would appear as though the Hispanics could be taking over America very soon.

The destruction of we the white folk is now in progress. We White folk may soon find ourselves becoming a minority in our own white homelands. Just wait and watch what happens in the next decade. We white folk are not going to like what is waiting and planned for us all coming down the globalist multicultural communist highway.  

PS: I was watching an NHL hockey playoff game last night in republican controlled South Carolina and what caught my eye the most was that the stadium was packed full of fans, nobody was wearing a clown mask except for one or two "mask"hole buffoons and no social distancing seen as fans were noted to be just inches apart from one another.

It certainly looks to me like the good old normal days are back in some American states. I am going to try and watch a hockey game in some democratic controlled state like New York or California to see if anything is different there.  

Will we ever see packed stadiums in Canada anytime soon? Canadians will be lucky if they can get to be able to go to any big sports events anytime soon here in Canada. Why? It's because of that dreaded covid virus, that's why. LOL. 

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2 minutes ago, taxme said:

The destruction of we the white folk is now in progress. We White folk may soon find ourselves becoming a minority in our own white homelands.

that's not actually the story of my people

as an Orangeman, Scots-Irish Protestant Loyalist

just because a Fenian Irish Papist is "white", does not mean that he is my "folk"

I would have more in common with an Indian Sepoy or Nepalese Gurkha than I would a Fenian

Loyalist Canada & the Raj in India having joined the British Empire on the same day, 10 February 1763

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British is not a race, British is not a place, British is a system of governance

born of the Roman Empire, Roma Britannia conquered from 43 AD to 87 AD

the British Empire having the same doctrine as the Romans

so long as you adopt our system of governance, you are British, regardless of your ethnicity

so "white" Canada is ahistorical, not the nature of the agreement here, the only Confederation of the British Empire

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take for example the Quebecois

ethnically they are French

descendant of the 60,000 colonists of Nouvelle France, founded in 1603 by the French House of Bourbon

when however they were conquered by the British House of Hanover in the Seven Years War

the French handed them all over to the British Empire at the signing of the Treaty of Paris, 10 February 1763

at which point they ceased to be French and became British, regardless of their ethnicity

you can see by the uniforms, British Household Infantry, their Colonel - in - Chief is Elizabeth Windsor

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23 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

British is not a race, British is not a place, British is a system of governance

born of the Roman Empire, Roma Britannia conquered from 43 AD to 87 AD

the British Empire having the same doctrine as the Romans

so long as you adopt our system of governance, you are British, regardless of your ethnicity

so "white" Canada is ahistorical, not the nature of the agreement here, the only Confederation of the British Empire

Maybe this is why I like pizza so much, eh? LOL.

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23 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

take for example the Quebecois

ethnically they are French

descendant of the 60,000 colonists of Nouvelle France, founded in 1603 by the French House of Bourbon

when however they were conquered by the British House of Hanover in the Seven Years War

the French handed them all over to the British Empire at the signing of the Treaty of Paris, 10 February 1763

at which point they ceased to be French and became British, regardless of their ethnicity

you can see by the uniforms, British Household Infantry, their Colonel - in - Chief is Elizabeth Windsor

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Are there any females in the British military that wear a uniform like those men are wearing in that photo of yours? Just wondering because I have never seen a female wearing one of those top furry black hats. ^_^

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2 minutes ago, taxme said:

Maybe this is why I like pizza so much, eh? LOL.

Canada is indeed directly descendant of the Ancient Romans

Britannia is a Roman country, the Romans founded it, the British Empire was an extension of the Roman Empire

things is tho, the Romans were not actually Italians

they were Greeks, who fled the civil wars in Greece, to found a new state, on the banks of the river Tiber

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3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Are there any females in the British military that wear a uniform like those men are wearing in that photo of yours? Just wondering because I have never seen a female wearing one of those top furry black hats. ^_^

it is very rare to find a female who can pass regular force infantry battleschool

I'm not actually aware if there are females in the ranks of the Royal 22nd Regiment of Canada

but probably there are, the trade has been open to females since 1989, and standards have been watered down as result

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this is literally a recruiting poster of the British Army now

this is how insane Britannia has become now

this is the abomination which passes for "Soldiers of the Crown" now

the soldier who appears in the photo to the right, actually resigned in protest

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22 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it is very rare to find a female who can pass regular force infantry battleschool

I'm not actually aware if there are females in the ranks of the Royal 22nd Regiment of Canada

but probably there are, the trade has been open to females since 1989, and standards have been watered down as result

I cannot wait for the day when some small short fat female or a Sikh wearing one of those British uniforms one day. I can just see some Sikh standing there with the rest of the soldiers and wearing his turban. Don't laugh as this may just happen very soon especially here in multicultural Canada. Anything that the french socialists in Quebec can do to be able to abolish anything or make a fool of anything British that has to do with England and their standards and traditions. 

English Canada does not really exist anymore. We are all living in a french controlled socialist country called Quebec. Believe it or not. Every day Castro Trudeau and his leftist liberal ilk makes a mockery of English Canada and English Canada still kisses their french socialist azzes. Canada has become a disgusting and pathetic country to live in these days. Aw well. :(

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6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

this is literally a recruiting poster of the British Army now

this is how insane Britannia has become now

this is the abomination which passes for "Soldiers of the Crown" now

the soldier who appears in the photo to the right, actually resigned in protest

28734af08e583af054b365a4753b3b8c?impolic

 

Thanks to socialism and multiculturalism they both have become a curse on all western nations that have implemented those two stupid communist like programs and agendas. We are now paying A hefty price on all of our western heritage and traditions. Our western culture is pretty much dead. 

The western military is being weakened as a result of socialism and multiculturalism. The Russians and the Chinese are both laughing at the west for their stupidity. The deep state globalists plan is working. Weaken the west and it's military and then allow the Chinese communists become the world's newest military world power. As far as I am concerned, our Canadian military will look more like a third world looking military rather than a Canadian looking military(if you get my drift here)in the near future. It will happen, guaranteed. :( 

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On 6/3/2021 at 3:28 PM, taxme said:

I cannot wait for the day when some small short fat female or a Sikh wearing one of those British uniforms one day. I can just see some Sikh standing there with the rest of the soldiers and wearing his turban. Don't laugh as this may just happen very soon especially here in multicultural Canada. Anything that the french socialists in Quebec can do to be able to abolish anything or make a fool of anything British that has to do with England and their standards and traditions. 

English Canada does not really exist anymore. We are all living in a french controlled socialist country called Quebec. Believe it or not. Every day Castro Trudeau and his leftist liberal ilk makes a mockery of English Canada and English Canada still kisses their french socialist azzes. Canada has become a disgusting and pathetic country to live in these days. Aw well. :(

Are you Don Cherry? ?

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On 5/19/2021 at 12:43 PM, Argus said:

There can never be any questioning of the idea French is threatened, and no demand for evidence.

In January, Gaudreault’s research paper, titled “The impact of immigration on local ethnic groups’ demographic representativeness: The case study of ethnic French Canadians in Quebec,” was published in the scientific journal Nations and Nationalism. His key findings, based on an analysis of Statistics Canada data, were that: in 1971, ethnic French-Canadians represented 79 per cent of the Quebec population, but declined to 64.5 per cent by 2014 and, given current immigration rates, will fall below 50 per cent of the population by 2042. By 2050, they will make up 45 per cent of the population, a share that will continue to decline.

https://financialpost.com/diane-francis/diane-francis-facing-a-demographic-shift-quebec-doubles-down-on-its-language-laws

Now, that doesn't mean that the French language itself will decline as a minority along with ethnic French-Canadian population.  I don't have those stats.  What has happened in the US and the UK and elsewhere is happening in Quebec:  people are afraid of becoming a minority.  With Quebec, the issue is more complex because language is a big part of their culture and really the cornerstone, within a country that is majority english that has a Charter of Rights with mobility rights that says any Canadian citizen and permanent resident can freely move and take up residence in any province of their choice.

It seems Quebec politicians have been very willing to stomp on freedom of speech, expression, and religion rights to enforce their nationalist agenda.  I understand their concerns, but the choices they are making a very dangerous, and unconstitutional.  The religious symbols law is an absolute joke.  They're afraid of hijabs LOL.

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18 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

In January, Gaudreault’s research paper, titled “The impact of immigration on local ethnic groups’ demographic representativeness: The case study of ethnic French Canadians in Quebec,” was published in the scientific journal Nations and Nationalism. His key findings, based on an analysis of Statistics Canada data, were that: in 1971, ethnic French-Canadians represented 79 per cent of the Quebec population, but declined to 64.5 per cent by 2014 and, given current immigration rates, will fall below 50 per cent of the population by 2042. By 2050, they will make up 45 per cent of the population, a share that will continue to decline.

Immigration numbers are being pushed mainly by Quebec politicians, including Justin Trudeau and before him Brian Mulroney and Jean Chretien. And if you even hint that you might be thinking about the decline in the ethnic British population of Canada due to immigration the entire mainstream media will shriek in horror and depict you as Adolph Hitler's meaner grandson.

However, the numbers about French being spoken at work are virtually unchanged. This perhaps illustrates it best.

Concerns around the declining use of French have at least a foothold in fact. The proportion of Quebecers speaking only French at home declined to 71.2 per cent in 2016 from 72.8 per cent in 2011, according to Statistics Canada.

However, the percentage of the province’s people who spoke French — but not necessarily exclusively — at home rose marginally over the same period.

“You can find data to suit whatever thesis you have. But a lot of it is based on a knee-jerk reaction to walking into a downtown store and being served in English or getting the dreaded ‘Bonjour-Hi,’ ” said Christian Bourque, executive vice-president at the Leger polling firm.

https://nationalpost.com/news/angst-around-french-language-boils-over-in-quebec-as-politicians-warn-of-decline

 

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Now we see the Trudeau Liberals desperately wanting to get in on this "We shall protect the French culture and language to the death!" propaganda stuff Legault is using. The federal government will 'overhaul' bilingualism laws dealing with federally regulated businesses to strengthen the requirement for French. The Trudeau style-over-substance Liberals never miss a chance to exploit identity politics in hopes of more votes. As to the Anglos - screw them.

A more detailed analysis will follow, but the QCGN concludes Joly’s bill strays from the principle that “English and French are equal in law” in Canada.

Joly’s bill, for example, goes where Ottawa never has gone before and includes in the bill a clause recognizing, for the first time, that French is the official language of Quebec and that New Brunswick is officially bilingual.

Another clause states, again for the fist time in history, that Ottawa considers French fragile and in need of special protection, not only in Canada but also in Quebec.

https://nationalpost.com/news/quebec/protecting-french-is-our-job-but-quebec-says-it-will-study-ottawas-plan/wcm/a38990d1-2015-45e1-983f-650720aebb6a

 

 

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On 6/15/2021 at 12:15 PM, Benz said:

Are you Don Cherry? ?

Nope. Just some ex Anglophone who had to leave french socialist Quebec because of the hatred and discrimination being shown against all anglophone people of Quebec. French socialist Quebec runs Canada. Believe it or not. ;)

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It's rare to see a paper like the Globe and Mail come out with an editorial which comes anywhere close to a position which might arouse anger towards the French and/or Quebec, but today's certainly comes close. On the subject of the Trudeau Liberals changes to the Official Languages Act the paper says bluntly that official bilingualism is dead, and that the new law will be all to the benefit of francophones and to hell with the English.

Where the act was originally about ensuring that Parliament and the federal civil service operated in both official languages, and about protecting linguistic minorities – English in Quebec, French outside Quebec – the new Trudeau government is transforming it into its own version of Quebec’s Charter of the French Language, a.k.a. Bill 101.

“The existence of a francophone majority in Quebec, with a future in which French is assured, is not only a legitimate objective, but also a fundamental premise of the federal official languages regime,” the government says.

This is a drastic shift for a law that was meant to support French and English linguistic minorities, not to support the French language outside Quebec, while protecting Quebec from the province’s anglophones.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-under-justin-trudeau-official-bilingualism-as-we-know-it-is-over/

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2 hours ago, Argus said:

It's rare to see a paper like the Globe and Mail come out with an editorial which comes anywhere close to a position which might arouse anger towards the French and/or Quebec, but today's certainly comes close. On the subject of the Trudeau Liberals changes to the Official Languages Act the paper says bluntly that official bilingualism is dead, and that the new law will be all to the benefit of francophones and to hell with the English.

Where the act was originally about ensuring that Parliament and the federal civil service operated in both official languages, and about protecting linguistic minorities – English in Quebec, French outside Quebec – the new Trudeau government is transforming it into its own version of Quebec’s Charter of the French Language, a.k.a. Bill 101.

“The existence of a francophone majority in Quebec, with a future in which French is assured, is not only a legitimate objective, but also a fundamental premise of the federal official languages regime,” the government says.

This is a drastic shift for a law that was meant to support French and English linguistic minorities, not to support the French language outside Quebec, while protecting Quebec from the province’s anglophones.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-under-justin-trudeau-official-bilingualism-as-we-know-it-is-over/

Canada is Quebec. Quebec is Canada. The french have been running Canada for decades now ever since old man comrade Pete boy Trudeau came to power in 1980. While Canada gets to be bilingual, Quebec gets a to be a unilingual french speaking province only. No discrimination or french ass kissing seen here, folks. 

English Canada is dead. The problem is that English Canada has just not fallen over yet. What a joke this dead Canada has become and all thanks to the gutless anglophones who could careless about their own language and culture and history and traditions. 

A book that I once read called "Bilingual Today, French Tomorrow" has come to fruition here in Canada. The book pretty much said that old man comrade Trudeau was going to make Canada become a french speaking socialist country one day. and here we are today. A french controlled Canada. I am truly fed up with this sick and pathetic french controlled country and the majority of morons that live in it. Up Canada. :P

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On 6/16/2021 at 11:28 AM, Argus said:

Immigration numbers are being pushed mainly by Quebec politicians, including Justin Trudeau and before him Brian Mulroney and Jean Chretien. And if you even hint that you might be thinking about the decline in the ethnic British population of Canada due to immigration the entire mainstream media will shriek in horror and depict you as Adolph Hitler's meaner grandson.

However, the numbers about French being spoken at work are virtually unchanged. This perhaps illustrates it best.

Concerns around the declining use of French have at least a foothold in fact. The proportion of Quebecers speaking only French at home declined to 71.2 per cent in 2016 from 72.8 per cent in 2011, according to Statistics Canada.

However, the percentage of the province’s people who spoke French — but not necessarily exclusively — at home rose marginally over the same period.

“You can find data to suit whatever thesis you have. But a lot of it is based on a knee-jerk reaction to walking into a downtown store and being served in English or getting the dreaded ‘Bonjour-Hi,’ ” said Christian Bourque, executive vice-president at the Leger polling firm.

https://nationalpost.com/news/angst-around-french-language-boils-over-in-quebec-as-politicians-warn-of-decline

 

Quebec gets around 50 000 new immigrants (whether it is from normal process or refugees) per year and in that number, most of them do not have french as mother language and moreless only 40% do speak functional french. Although french courses are free and the government subsides them, still alot of immigrants won't learn french. The birth rate of the french people is very low and it does not take a phd to understand if the number of people not speaking french increases all the time at this pace, it soon will become a serious issue for the french. Even among the people who learned french because they have too, their native language is not french. It could be spanish, arab, vietnamese, tagalog, name it. For those people, french and english are both foreign languages to them. Alot among them have learned english before french and are probably still master it better. If we force them to use french, they will. But if you ask them which one they would prefer, they would go with the one that is mostly used in north america. They do not love one more than the other. Those two languages are both equally foreign to them. It is just a matter of pratical in the big picture. I do not blame them. If I move to Spain, I would tend to choose Spanish because it is spoken by most of the country and also half of south america but, if I move specifically to Catalonia, they would expect from me that I learn the catalonian language as well. It is not practical for me because I already know a bit of spanish and catalonia is spoken by only the catalonians. Not elsewhere. But this is not about me, this about the catalonian nation that wants to preserve its culture.

The issue here is only about the number of non-french immigrants that do not or barely speak french and have the possibility to avoid it. If their percentage wouldn't be so big compared to our birth rate, it wouldn't be an issue.

As for the use of french in the work place, although it is illegal according to the language laws, it is still a major issue. I have seen it several times. I had to use english with some workmates that do not speak french at all even if they are living here in Quebec for many years. Most of them had an english worst than mine. This is something that is difficult to understand for me. I am very different. If I move to another country, let's keep up with my previous example,  and I get a job where I can speak french or english and I am not required to use spanish or catalonian, for sure, I will not limit myself to that. I will take on me to learn the catalonian language. I will be too curious to get to know them, their culture and what drives them. I might not become speak it perfectly, I might not become a writer in their language, but I will eventually be able to communicate with them. Just because I like to connect with people and understand what they like, what make them laugh. So when I see people living here in Quebec for several years and not being able to say Bonjour or few sentences in french, that is totally alien to me. How can you live in a society and be so close minded and isolated like that? Don't get me wrong, I feel the same with the french that do not speak english. I did not learn english because I have to. I learned it because I was way too curious about how life is going on outside Quebec and to communicate with the rest of america. I started to learn spanish for the very same reason regarding central and south america. But I never lived outside Quebec, just visit for vacation or business. So how can you live for so long into a society and never learn its language, it sounds so stubborn and narrowed. Then I decided to ask the question directly. Whenever I met someone not speaking french in Quebec, I asked the person. There were a variety of answers. Sometimes it was just as narrowed as it sounds. But sometimes I could understand. The answer that came the most frequently is, the person feels too old and too busy to learn. Those people are very glad that their children go to french schools and speak perfect french, and they wish they could do just the same, but they feel like they can't make it. Are they right? Maybe they are wrong and if they put the proper effort, they would make it. Maybe we don't force them enough. Or maybe they are right, maybe it's true that you get to a point it is more difficult to learn a new language. Or maybe some people are just stronger than other. Maybe I am superior to them and I can't expect them to learn as much as what I can learn. I do not know. Maybe a little bit of all that.

My wife is having the same issue. She was living in Philippines. Her language is Pangalatok, she knows Tagalog as well and she did her best to learn English. She got a very hard time to learn it and it is still very basic. She is still mixing up the past/present/future when she speaks. We could communicate in english and we felt in love. That is great but, the downside for her now is, she has to learn french. It was so difficult for her to learn english, now she needs to learn french. I see how she is struggling with that. She really wants to learn it but, if I push harder she will have a nose bleeding. For her, english and french are just foreign languages and she doesn't have a preference. Again, she would have preferred to stick up with english not have to learn a new one but, eh! She felt in love with a french guy. ;) 

Conclusion, the language laws regarding the schools are a very good thing. Very important for the preservation of the french culture. The laws regarding the workplace are also important but, it's a bit of gray area. I now understand those who are struggling with it and at the same time, I also witness bad attitudes. I am less drastic than I once was but, measures to help and encourage the francization are still important. The threat to the french language in Quebec is not necessarily a problem of attitude but, rather a capacity of the society to digest its immigrants and make them adopt the language. Where is the solution. More tools for immigrants? More restrictions? Not everybody are the same either. It is still a challenge and as long as Quebec will have a high rate of immigration, the challenge will go on. I take that challenge.

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It sounds like the problem is not language at all, but rather your all not having enough sex, or your shooting blanks...maybe wearing those speedos all the time have broken your balls. Making more French babies is the solution, .

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