yet another Trump child sex trafficker!

[BeaverFever]

On 3/31/2021 at 1:05 PM, Infidel Dog said:

I (and you) have no idea what the full context is to what anonymous sources allegedly told the New York Times so how would I (or you) know the answer to that question?

Gaetz has confirmed that he is under investigation so yet again the reports in the media were correct and yet again your media conspiracy theories were wrong. Kindly take note. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

No matter what happens to the investigation, we’ve got a sleazebag on our hands here:

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(CNN)Rep. Matt Gaetz, the Florida Republican being investigated by the Justice Department over sex trafficking allegations, made a name for himself when he arrived on Capitol Hill as a conservative firebrand on TV and staunch defender of then-President Donald Trump. Behind the scenes, Gaetz gained a reputation in Congress over his relationships with women and bragging about his sexual escapades to his colleagues, multiple sources told CNN.

 

Gaetz allegedly showed off to other lawmakers photos and videos of nude women he said he had slept with, the sources told CNN, including while on the House floor. The sources, including two people directly shown the material, said Gaetz displayed the images of women on his phone and talked about having sex with them. One of the videos showed a naked woman with a hula hoop, according to one source.

"It was a point of pride," one of the sources said of Gaetz.

When did such behaviour become normalized? 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/matt-gaetz-photos-women/index.html

Another highly plausible story. Carlson is furious Gaetz tried to drag him into this scandal as a potential witness during the interview:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/media/tucker-carlson-matt-gaetz-reaction/index.html

 

 

 

[Infidel Dog]

Not exactly. I assume you mean this:

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Mr. Gaetz said in an interview that his lawyers had been in touch with the Justice Department and that they were told he was the subject, not the target, of an investigation.

As I understand it, it goes something like this.

There's this tax collecter in Florida named Joel Greenberg. He has been indicted on sex and other charges. Seems he was using one of those "sugar daddy" sites on the internet. He has been indicted on a number of charges - among them the kind of charges the swamp and the media of the corporate left would dearly like to connect Gaetz to. Gaetz seems to be some kind of buddy of his. Or at least it looks like he was.

There's no evidence the anonymous source obsessed media and the swampsters have been successful connecting Gaetz to a crime at this point and Gaetz denies he was ever involved in any of Greenberg's "sugar-daddy" shenanigans.

So far there is nothing but anonymous sourced smears to any aspect of the story.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[BubberMiley]

3 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

 

There's no evidence the anonymous source obsessed media and the swampsters have been successful connecting Gaetz to a crime at this point and Gaetz denies he was ever involved in any of Greenberg's "sugar-daddy" shenanigans.

The NYT has verified seeing Gaetz's receipts. That is evidence. You can deny it all you want, but that's entering into alternative-reality territory.

[Infidel Dog]

Show me what you're talking about.

[SpankyMcFarland]

42 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

So far there is nothing but anonymous sourced smears to any aspect of the story.

Alleged crimes aside, do you think CNN is making up the stories about him showing off naked pics to other Republicans in Congress? 

[Infidel Dog]

OK, I found it myself and see now why you didn't want to post the link.

There are allegations by anonymous sources that 2 unnamed women (nowhere does it say either is underage) received some sort of gifts from one or more of 3 men these anonymous allegations connect to these alleged "Sugar-Daddy" girls incidents. NYT claims some kind anonymous contact within the justice department (swamp) has showed them some kind of receipts alleging these girls received some sort of gifts for sex.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/01/us/politics/matt-gaetz-justice-department.html

So go ahead then anonymous Swampter friends of NYT. Take that to court. See what it gets you. That's assuming it exists.

[Infidel Dog]

3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Alleged crimes aside, do you think CNN is making up the stories about him showing off naked pics to other Republicans in Congress? 

Again those are anonymous sourced rumors. Can CNN find such allegations. I have no doubt they can and would actively seek them out.

But even if they find these alleged photos and post them what crime are you thinking they'd prove?

I just scanned the article but I didn't see even CNN alleging these photos  were of an under aged girl. They didn't did they? So put those rumors together with the NYT receipt rumors, take them both to court and see what that gets you.

Think there might be some reason the swamp hasn't already done that?

Edited April 2, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[SpankyMcFarland]

11 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Again those are anonymous sourced rumors. Can CNN find such allegations. I have no doubt they can and would actively seek them out.

But even if they find these alleged photos and post them what crime are you thinking they'd prove?I

They are not relevant to any crime but they do show what sort of person Gaetz is. Can you imagine Mitt Romney doing something like that? Or Ben Sasse? Or Adam Kinzinger? Would you do it? 

Edited April 2, 2021 by SpankyMcFarland

[Infidel Dog]

 

7 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

They are not relevant to any crime but they do show what sort of person Gaetz is. Can you imagine Mitt Romney doing something like that? Or Ben Sasse? Or Adam Kinzinger? Would you do it? 

Not exactly. If they exist they might suggest what sort of person CNN and their anonymous rumor mongers allege Gaetz to be.

Currently all they show for sure is CNN and others seem desperate to smear Gaetz with something...anything. They would really love to get Gaetz as a proxy to Trump.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[SpankyMcFarland]

3 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

 

Not exactly. If they exist they might suggest what sort of person CNN and their anonymous rumor mongers allege Gaetz to be.

Currently all they show for sure is CNN and others seem desperate to smear Gaetz with something...anything. They would really love to get Gaetz as a proxy to Trump.

CNN claim multiple sources and the hula hoop allegation is a specific detail. Republican politicians aren’t going to risk breaking ranks this early to publicly denounce a prominent Trumpster. Anyway, I’m sure we’ll see whether the story has legs in the coming months. If it’s true, we’ll be seeing much more about it. If not, it will die. 

[Infidel Dog]

Apparently Gaetz's communication director just resigned.

[Infidel Dog]

I'm not sure what that would prove but it's worth knowing.

[Infidel Dog]

This one is a well detailed and reasonably fair update of the whole story and the background:

 

[BeaverFever]

21 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Not exactly. I assume you mean this:

As I understand it, it goes something like this.

There's this tax collecter in Florida named Joel Greenberg. He has been indicted on sex and other charges. Seems he was using one of those "sugar daddy" sites on the internet. He has been indicted on a number of charges - among them the kind of charges the swamp and the media of the corporate left would dearly like to connect Gaetz to. Gaetz seems to be some kind of buddy of his. Or at least it looks like he was.

There's no evidence the anonymous source obsessed media and the swampsters have been successful connecting Gaetz to a crime at this point and Gaetz denies he was ever involved in any of Greenberg's "sugar-daddy" shenanigans.

So far there is nothing but anonymous sourced smears to any aspect of the story.

No you’re out of touch as usual:

 

Gaetz, R-Fla., a high-profile advocate for former President Donald Trump and a firebrand against Democrats in Congress, announced Tuesday he was under investigation.

 

Tooday is Saturday. Kindly keep up. He’s not denying he’s under investigation. In fact that point is central to his extortion claims. He simply claims the investigation is unwarranted but he has track record as a bit of a creep including his own book where he tries to portray himself as some champion stud who makes no apologies for his R-rated sexcapades when he says “' I have an active social life, and it's probably easier in the era of Trump. We've had 'perfect family man' presidents before, after all, and many of those men sold out our country, even if their If politicians' family lives aren't what really matter to the voters, maybe that's a good thing. I’m a representative, not a monk...We've got a president now [Trump] who doesn't care for puritanical grandstanding or moralistic preening... So overall, this is a good time to be a fun-loving politician instead of a stick-in-the-mud."

 

And apparently there’s security video of him and the other Republican perv in Greenberg’s tax collector office rifling through returned drivers licenses (something the office also handles) in the middle of the night on a weekend, trying to make fake IDs for the their underage prostitute orgies. 

[Argus]

Gaetz was previously accused, by a Florida Republican, of inventing a sex conquest game when he was in the Florida legislature where you got points for sleeping with interns, lobbyists, female legislators, etc. Double points if they were virgins or married.

https://www.businessinsider.com/matt-gaetz-once-accused-of-inventing-sex-game-florida-legislature-2021-4

[Shady]

Heckuva job Dems! ?

A Democratic lawmaker in Virginia who was jailed for six months in 2015 for having sex with his underage secretary was elected to the state legislature this week

https://nypost.com/2019/11/07/virginia-democrat-once-jailed-for-underage-sex-elected-to-state-senate/

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Gaetz was previously accused, by a Florida Republican, of inventing a sex conquest game when he was in the Florida legislature where you got points for sleeping with interns, lobbyists, female legislators, etc. Double points if they were virgins or married.

https://www.businessinsider.com/matt-gaetz-once-accused-of-inventing-sex-game-florida-legislature-2021-4

Female lobbyists are in an awkward spot already without having to deal with dirtbags like these. The lack of support from Gaetz’s colleagues so far says it all. 

[Infidel Dog]

Come to think of it, isn't it kind of interesting how the left and their corporate media want to make such a stink about rumors innuendos and accusations coming only from the well-known fact source known only as their butts concerning Gaetz but they zoomed past Democrat congressmen Eric Swallwell banging a Chinese Communist spy girl.

[godzilla]

1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said:

Come to think of it, isn't it kind of interesting how the left and their corporate media want to make such a stink about rumors innuendos and accusations coming only from the well-known fact source known only as their butts concerning Gaetz but they zoomed past Democrat congressmen Eric Swallwell banging a Chinese Communist spy girl.

yeah, but Swalwell was never under investigation for anything. and his party still supports him. not even Fox news supports Gaetz now. he's fucked.

[Infidel Dog]

Why would he be? He never supported Trump. The swamp has no interest in him. 

He pretty-much only got high fives from his Democrat buddies and the swamp leaked nothing.

If it had been Gaetz who was banging a Chinese spy your media and the Democrats would still be screaming for his nuts and the swamp would be leaking rumours of their alleged treason investigations every day.

Edited April 3, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[BubberMiley]

38 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Come to think of it, isn't it kind of interesting how the left and their corporate media want to make such a stink about rumors innuendos and accusations coming only from the well-known fact source known only as their butts concerning Gaetz but they zoomed past Democrat congressmen Eric Swallwell banging a Chinese Communist spy girl.

 

Doesn't it just make you feel stupider and weaker when you have to invent a lie that they were "banging" in order to make your lame whataboutism appear relevant?

[godzilla]

28 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Why would he be? He never supported Trump. The swamp has no interest in him. 

He pretty-much only got high fives from his Democrat buddies and the swamp leaked nothing.

If it had been Gaetz who was banging a Chinese spy your media and the Democrats would still be screaming for his nuts and the swamp would be leaking rumours of their alleged treason investigations every day.

if Swalwell was knowingly giving secure information to a Chinese spy then he should be hung out to dry. except that never happened. and the senate intelligence committee would have been party to that information when it was led by the GOP under the Trump admin.

under the Trump admin, Gaetz gets a DOJ investigation, his associate gets indicted. he's not been charged or convicted yet... so maybe when the girls were talking about high school he thought they were talking about college? honest mistake!

[Infidel Dog]

19 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Doesn't it just make you feel stupider and weaker when you have to invent a lie that they were "banging" in order to make your lame whataboutism appear relevant?

Right now it's as true as the claim Gaetz  took a 17 year old across state lines for sex. You seem to make a big deal about that one with "pundit"  levels of certainty. You can't be thinking you're a genius for making one rumor based claim then be attacking another. Well you can but it's dumb and belies your posturing a superior intellect. Makes you look silly..

[BubberMiley]

Just now, Infidel Dog said:

Right now it's as true as the claim Gaetz  took a 17 year old across state lines for sex. You seem to make a big deal about that one with "pundit"  levels of certainty. You can't be thinking you're a genius for making one rumor based claim then be attacking another. Well you can but it's dumb and belies your posturing a superior intellect. Makes you look silly..

It's not a rumour. It's just a lie made up by a halfwit Qanon Trumper with no credibility. Thank you for (unknowingly) admitting it.