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37 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Biden is a war monger for bombing terrorists but you miss Teump for killing terrorist leaders (US military killed one while Trump was president)

Its funny watching Trumptards trying have their cake and eat too, trying to portray Dems as bloodthirsty warmongers and also as gutless pacifist appeasers  

But it kind of ties with their equally nonsensical narrative of liberals being gutless spineless incompetent finger-in-the-wind pacifist politicians who believe in nothing but are somehow still ruthlessly crushing the brave, strong, fearless, gun-toting, church-going, professional, values-based conservative majority under their heel  

You have no clue wtf my words meant. That's no shocker because you're a leftist and you can't believe anything until Rachel Maddow says it.

I'm typing this slowly so that you can read it....

1) Trump killed terrorist LEADERS. Dems thought that was stupid, they even tried to portray Suleimani as a beloved father figure to Iranians, but Trump's MO was effective because when no one wants to brag about leading a terrorist org, morale, recruitment and attacks go down. In all of human history it's common knowledge that leaderless groups aren't strong (kind of like the US is now). 

2) Biden is putting young militia members in bodybags. FYI not everyone who joins militias in the ME are terrorists. Killing them, whether they're actually terrorists or not, dredges up hatred for America, which helps recruit terrorists. Biden is basically a recruiter for jihadis. Three months as potus, two attacks. 

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14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Sure Beave. 

White conservatives are Americas biggest terrorist threat, they just haven't attacked yet, and muslims keep on committing mass murders but their attacks are never considered terrorism. 

I didn’t say never. But mental illness isn’t a white privilege. People of other races and religions have it to.  As I said there’s ZERO evidence that either of these people were motivated by their religion.
 

Unlike the conservative terrorists who were definitely motivated by their conservatism when they did commit  their attacks which actions have happened despite your conservative selective amnesia denial.  How many times do I have to keep reminding you of the MAGA Bomber, the Capitol attacks and the various white supremacist attacks where the white supremacists identified as conservative even if you don’t accept  them as fellow conservatives?

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41 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

If getting your picture taken ONCE with someone at a public event DECADES AGO means you’re in league with them for ever and ever then what do all those pictures of Trump with Epstein prove? Or Rumsfeld with Saddam Hussein? 

Duhhhhh, which way'd he go Geaorge?

Do I honestly have to spell this out for you Beave?

When that picture was taken, Farrakhan was by far the most famous and outspoken racist/anti-Semite in the western world. Obama definitely knew that, because I already knew that for a decade and I live 4,000 miles away, so Obama chumming with him and posing for a picture with him was absolute support.

It's like if Hitler was alive and you went and posed with him for a picture. How on earth could you do that and still pretend that you're not a supporter of his? How could you do that Beave?

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Or how about more recently GOP crackpot Kelly Loeffler who has REPEATEDLY posed with white supremacists, including a former Ku Klux Klan leader and member of the neo-Nazi National Alliance who was sentenced to prison for assaulting a Black man in Maryland?  She keeps saying it was an accident but hoe many times so you accidentally take selfies with known Neo Nazis?

Who is Kelly Loeffler? Was she elected the leader of the GOP? 

Who were these white supremacist leaders? Were they the latino leaders of the Proud Boys? 

You must understand why I treat everything you type as meaningless bullshit, right?

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11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You have no clue wtf my words meant. That's no shocker because you're a leftist and you can't believe anything until Rachel Maddow says it.

I'm typing this slowly so that you can read it....

1) Trump killed terrorist LEADERS. Dems thought that was stupid, they even tried to portray Suleimani as a beloved father figure to Iranians, but Trump's MO was effective because when no one wants to brag about leading a terrorist org, morale, recruitment and attacks go down. In all of human history it's common knowledge that leaderless groups aren't strong (kind of like the US is now). 

2) Biden is putting young militia members in bodybags. FYI not everyone who joins militias in the ME are terrorists. Killing them, whether they're actually terrorists or not, dredges up hatred for America, which helps recruit terrorists. Biden is basically a recruiter for jihadis. Three months as potus, two attacks. 

But that’s totally opposite if what yoy said when you criticized  Obama for not fighting ISIS and failed to give him crest for killing Bin Laden. It’s not like either Obama or Biden have a policy to NOT kill leaders. And none of this has anything to do with mentally I’ll people in the US. 

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5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Duhhhhh, which way'd he go Geaorge?

Do I honestly have to spell this out for you Beave?

When that picture was taken, Farrakhan was by far the most famous and outspoken racist/anti-Semite in the western world. Obama definitely knew that, because I already knew that for a decade and I live 4,000 miles away, so Obama chumming with him and posing for a picture with him was absolute support.

It's like if Hitler was alive and you went and posed with him for a picture. How on earth could you do that and still pretend that you're not a supporter of his? How could you do that Beave?

Lkke I said dumbass they were both attendees at a public event and  by all accounts took a photo together while working the crowd and moved on. There is ZERO reason to believe they ever spoke before or since or share anything else n common.  As usual where the facts end you insert your own made up lies. 
 

Not like Trump chumming with Epstein for over a decade or Rumsfelds  private meeting in Iraq to sell WMD to Hussein. 

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Who is Kelly Loeffler? Was she elected the leader of the GOP? 

Who were these white supremacist leaders? Were they the latino leaders of the Proud Boys? 

You must understand why I treat everything you type as meaningless bullshit, right?

Yeah figures you don’t know shit about your own Trumptard conservative nut job and her REPEATED  white supremacist selfies with convicted KKK leaders and known leaders if actual Neo-Nazi groups. They don’t report these facts in your conservative propoganda bubble. 

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23 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I didn’t say never. But mental illness isn’t a white privilege. People of other races and religions have it to.  As I said there’s ZERO evidence that either of these people were motivated by their religion.
 

Unlike the conservative terrorists who were definitely motivated by their conservatism when they did commit  their attacks which actions have happened despite your conservative selective amnesia denial.  How many times do I have to keep reminding you of the MAGA Bomber, the Capitol attacks and the various white supremacist attacks where the white supremacists identified as conservative even if you don’t accept  them as fellow conservatives?

Cite?

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22 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Neither does anyone else because it’s gibberish 

The theory of relativity is gibberish to you too, that doesn't make it any less useful.

Coles' Notes: I predicted something in advance which you can't understand with the benefit of hindsight. Shocker.

 

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17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

But that’s totally opposite if what yoy said when you criticized  Obama for not fighting ISIS and failed to give him crest for killing Bin Laden. It’s not like either Obama or Biden have a policy to NOT kill leaders. And none of this has anything to do with mentally I’ll people in the US. 

Speaking of gibberish lol. Wanna try that again, in English?

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11 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Lkke I said dumbass they were both attendees at a public event and  by all accounts took a photo together while working the crowd and moved on. There is ZERO reason to believe they ever spoke before or since or share anything else n common.  As usual where the facts end you insert your own made up lies. 
 

Not like Trump chumming with Epstein for over a decade or Rumsfelds  private meeting in Iraq to sell WMD to Hussein. 

Yeah figures you don’t know shit about your own Trumptard conservative nut job and her REPEATED  white supremacist selfies with convicted KKK leaders and known leaders if actual Neo-Nazi groups. They don’t report these facts in your conservative propoganda bubble. 

You said all that and called me a dumbass in the process? That's enough irony to rebuild the Titanicy.

Why the F was Obama at an event that Farrakhan was at? That's not kosher either? Even if it happened, there's still NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER for him to pose with that guy. None.

Would you pose with Osama Bin Laden? Would you pose with the Boston Bomber? Why or why not Beave?

OBAMA WAS OVERTLY CUMMY WITH FARRAKHAN AND POSED FOR A PICTURE WITH HIM. PERIOD. That's extremely alarming to every decent person in North America. 

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7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Seriously?

I just googled her. Senator from Georgia. Big deal. Am I supposed to remember who every American Senator and recent ex-Senator is? FYI there are 100 sitting Senators and some more who were recently voted out.

 

So now I know who she is, am I supposed to care if she had some pictures taken with some other people that I don't know? Did she have a photo taken with Sen. Byrd? OMG, burn her at the stake. 

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1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I just googled her. Senator from Georgia. Big deal. Am I supposed to remember who every American Senator and recent ex-Senator is? FYI there are 100 sitting Senators and some more who were recently voted out.

 

So now I know who she is, am I supposed to care if she had some pictures taken with some other people that I don't know? Did she have a photo taken with Sen. Byrd? OMG, burn her at the stake. 

 

So you weren't paying any attention to the recent Georgia senatorial election where both Republican candidates got their walking papers.

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Just now, Aristides said:

 

So you weren't paying any attention to the recent Georgia senatorial election where both Republican candidates got their walking papers.

Yes, but I didn't see any of the bogus alt-left smear campaign. What did they convince you of?

Beave made vague references to some photos but posted no links.

In any event, I have no doubt that K Loefler had some photos taken with Demonrats, but she can be forgiven for that.

If she had pictures taken with any famous racists, after they were widely known to be racists, then I'm 100% willing to group her with Barack Obama. Why wouldn't I? 

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Cite?

You want a cite that The MAGA Bomber Cesar Sayoc actually existed or what? That he lives in a van covered with Trump posters and was known Trump nut?  Ok if you’re that out of touch:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/05/cesar-sayoc-sentenced-to-20-years-for-sending-bombs-to-trump-critics.html

 

Or that the guy who shot up the Asian rub and tugs in Atlanta was a sexually repressed conservative who “loved god and guns”? And who belonged to a church that believes “adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bisexual conduct, bestiality, incest, polygamy, pedophilia, pornography, or any attempt to change one’s sex, or disagreement with one’s biological sex” as “sinful and offensive to God.”

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national/atlanta-shooting-suspect-robert-aaron-long/2021/03/19/9397cdca-87fe-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html%3foutputType=amp
 

The Pittsburgh synagogue shooter was a self-described conservative and white nationalist.  He was obsessed with” immigrant caravans” that conservatives are always fomenting hysteria in and attacked the synagogue because they did charity work helping migrants and he believed there was a Jewish conspiracy to flood America with migrant ls  

 

“At one point Bowers was fascinated by right-wing radio host Jim Quinn. At a later time he became a follower of "aggressive online provocateurs of the right wing's fringe."[62] He was deeply involved in posting on websites such as Gaband promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories through such social media sites.[63]...Bowers posted support of the "Western chauvinist" Proud Boys.  ....He used his online accounts to post conspiracy theories regarding philanthropist George Soros...

 

To be fair this guy was an anti-Trump conservative but nobody said all Republicans were identical, they a clown-car of different crazies and extremist groups  They all share some traits though like Soros conspiracies and immigrant hysteria that was certainly whipped up by trump and the hateful right and of course love of guns in this case  

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting


Roy Den Hollander is a conservative “anti-feminist” and “men’s rights activist” responsible for 2 separate murders in California and New Jersey, the latter targeting a female federal judge but instead killing her son and wounding her husband. He was a volunteer for Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and vocal critic of  President Barack Obama, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, and Hillary Clinton. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Den_Hollander


11 different terrorist attacks where right wingers tried to drive their cars into BLM protests (almost 100 in total but only 11 terrorism) plus the attack that killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville 

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5397700002


Dylan Roof, obsessed with vlack-on-white crime propaganda and anti-Trayvon Martin propaganda and obsessed with guns went on an anti-black shooting spree

 

Leader of group cited in ‘Dylann Roof manifesto’ donated to top Republicans

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/21/dylann-roof-manifesto-charlston-shootings-republicans

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You said all that and called me a dumbass in the process? That's enough irony to rebuild the Titanicy.

Why the F was Obama at an event that Farrakhan was at? That's not kosher either? Even if it happened, there's still NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER for him to pose with that guy. None.

Would you pose with Osama Bin Laden? Would you pose with the Boston Bomber? Why or why not Beave?

OBAMA WAS OVERTLY CUMMY WITH FARRAKHAN AND POSED FOR A PICTURE WITH HIM. PERIOD. That's extremely alarming to every decent person in North America. 

It was a Congressional event and Farrakhan was invited by another Congressman. People at these events schmooze, shake hands and get their pictures taken together. Everything aside from the 1-3 seconds it took the 2 men to say cheese for the camera when it happened almost 16 years ago is in your imagination including the relationship you think they had.  Honestly you have invented an entire story inside your head with nothing to go on but this one snapshot taken out of context   
 

And while Farrakhan is certainly a propagandist of hate, he’s not anyore Hitler than hate-speakers  on the right like Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter or Ezra Levant

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The theory of relativity is gibberish to you too, that doesn't make it any less useful.

Coles' Notes: I predicted something in advance which you can't understand with the benefit of hindsight. Shocker.

 

You didn’t predict anything dummy. Altering the truth to fit your failed predictions doesn’t count as predictions. 

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18 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You want a cite that The MAGA Bomber Cesar Sayoc actually existed or what? That he lives in a van covered with Trump posters and was known Trump nut?  Ok if you’re that out of touch:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/05/cesar-sayoc-sentenced-to-20-years-for-sending-bombs-to-trump-critics.html

 

Or that the guy who shot up the Asian rub and tugs in Atlanta was a sexually repressed conservative who “loved god and guns”? And who belonged to a church that believes “adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bisexual conduct, bestiality, incest, polygamy, pedophilia, pornography, or any attempt to change one’s sex, or disagreement with one’s biological sex” as “sinful and offensive to God.”

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national/atlanta-shooting-suspect-robert-aaron-long/2021/03/19/9397cdca-87fe-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html%3foutputType=amp
 

The Pittsburgh synagogue shooter was a self-described conservative and white nationalist.  He was obsessed with” immigrant caravans” that conservatives are always fomenting hysteria in and attacked the synagogue because they did charity work helping migrants and he believed there was a Jewish conspiracy to flood America with migrant ls  

 

“At one point Bowers was fascinated by right-wing radio host Jim Quinn. At a later time he became a follower of "aggressive online provocateurs of the right wing's fringe."[62] He was deeply involved in posting on websites such as Gaband promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories through such social media sites.[63]...Bowers posted support of the "Western chauvinist" Proud Boys.  ....He used his online accounts to post conspiracy theories regarding philanthropist George Soros...

 

To be fair this guy was an anti-Trump conservative but nobody said all Republicans were identical, they a clown-car of different crazies and extremist groups  They all share some traits though like Soros conspiracies and immigrant hysteria that was certainly whipped up by trump and the hateful right and of course love of guns in this case  

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting


Roy Den Hollander is a conservative “anti-feminist” and “men’s rights activist” responsible for 2 separate murders in California and New Jersey, the latter targeting a female federal judge but instead killing her son and wounding her husband. He was a volunteer for Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and vocal critic of  President Barack Obama, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, and Hillary Clinton. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Den_Hollander


11 different terrorist attacks where right wingers tried to drive their cars into BLM protests (almost 100 in total but only 11 terrorism) plus the attack that killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville 

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5397700002


Dylan Roof, obsessed with vlack-on-white crime propaganda and anti-Trayvon Martin propaganda and obsessed with guns went on an anti-black shooting spree

 

Leader of group cited in ‘Dylann Roof manifesto’ donated to top Republicans

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/21/dylann-roof-manifesto-charlston-shootings-republicans

OMG your comparison is laughable.

You're going back over several years to come up with 3 legitimate cases. The rest either weren't terrorist attacks or didn't have anything to do with the fact that the attackers were conservatives, or white.

I cited two attacks in less than 3 months, you're going back years to name 3 or 4 attacks. There were more attacks than that against specifically conservative groups, like two separate shootings of country music events (the Vegas one alone was more people than all of your terrorist attacks combined).

FYI none of the people who drove through angry mobs are considered 'terrorists', that's just your abject stupidity shining through again. No one with half a brain cares about people who were terrorizing innocent motorists and got scared by a car that sped off. 

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18 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

It was a Congressional event and Farrakhan was invited by another Congressman. People at these events schmooze, shake hands and get their pictures taken together. Everything aside from the 1-3 seconds it took the 2 men to say cheese for the camera when it happened almost 16 years ago is in your imagination including the relationship you think they had.  Honestly you have invented an entire story inside your head with nothing to go on but this one snapshot taken out of context   

OMG, you're such a rube.

Why did a congressman invite Farrakhan? That actually makes this all considerably worse, not better. If I added that tidbit you'd ask me for a cite.

Still, THERE'S NO REASON TO EVER pose for a picture with the biggest racist, religiously bigoted turd in the country. Obama's chumminess with Farrakhan is an endorsement of Farrakhan's evil and bigotry, period.

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And while Farrakhan is certainly a propagandist of hate, he’s not anyore Hitler than hate-speakers  on the right like Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter or Ezra Levant

What a farce. You obviously have no clue what nation of 'islam' is (TBH they're not really muslims at all) and your characterization of Limbaugh, Levant and Coulter as hate-speakers is just more of your blatant idiocy. I had no idea hw batshit crazy you were before you typed that last bit of frothy-mouthed drivel.

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18 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You didn’t predict anything dummy. Altering the truth to fit your failed predictions doesn’t count as predictions. 

I hate to break this to you, but just because you refuse to acknowledge something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist Beave. 

Just consider this thread as another one of those things that's way over your head. 

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11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG your comparison is laughable.

You're going back over several years to come up with 3 legitimate cases. The rest either weren't terrorist attacks or didn't have anything to do with the fact that the attackers were conservatives, or white.

I cited two attacks in less than 3 months, you're going back years to name 3 or 4 attacks. There were more attacks than that against specifically conservative groups, like two separate shootings of country music events (the Vegas one alone was more people than all of your terrorist attacks combined).

FYI none of the people who drove through angry mobs are considered 'terrorists', that's just your abject stupidity shining through again. No one with half a brain cares about people who were terrorizing innocent motorists and got scared by a car that sped off. 

Yeah those are legitimate terrorist attacks including the 11 drivers actually charged with terrorism you moron. They weren’t scared motorists they were right wing nutjobs who deliberately drove down to the protests with the goal of ramming the crowds. Do you not read?  Of course you dont  

 

 Why aren’t they terrorist attacks but a mentally ill person is autoworkers considered a terrorist attack if they have to be of Middle Eastern dissent or have som vague interest in Islam?  If a mentally ill white man does something I don’t automatically assume he’s a white supremacist terrorist. 

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11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Why did a congressman invite Farrakhan? That actually makes this all considerably worse, not better. If I added that tidbit you'd ask me for a cite.

Who knows?  I’m not defending it, just shredding your ridiculous fantasy about him and Obama. 
 

 

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Obama's chumminess with Farrakhan is an endorsement of Farrakhan's evil and bigotry, period.

A politician posing for a picture at with another guest at a schmooze event is neither “chumminess” nor an endorsement. 
 

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What a farce. You obviously have no clue what nation of 'islam' is (TBH they're not really muslims at all) and your characterization of Limbaugh, Levant and Coulter as hate-speakers is just more of your blatant idiocy. I had no idea hw batshit crazy you were before you typed that last bit of frothy-mouthed drivel.

I know all about Farrakhan and Nation of Islam. They’re not good people IMO. But your fear and loathing of black people, especially outspoken black people, has caused you to exaggerate greatly. 
 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I hate to break this to you, but just because you refuse to acknowledge something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist Beave. 

Just consider this thread as another one of those things that's way over your head. 

Nope you’re just too stupid to understand the world as it is so you make up stories. A mentally ill man is always a terrorist if he’s of middle eastern descent. I guess mental illness is another white privilege. 

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11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Yeah those are legitimate terrorist attacks including the 11 drivers actually charged with terrorism you moron. They weren’t scared motorists they were right wing nutjobs who deliberately drove down to the protests with the goal of ramming the crowds. Do you not read?  Of course you dont  

 

 Why aren’t they terrorist attacks but a mentally ill person is autoworkers considered a terrorist attack if they have to be of Middle Eastern dissent or have som vague interest in Islam?  If a mentally ill white man does something I don’t automatically assume he’s a white supremacist terrorist. 

There are no terrorist attacks at all there, this is just more of your own idiocy.

From your own article:

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On Saturday, in Yorba Linda, California, south of Los Angeles, a woman believed to be supporting Black Lives Matter with the group Caravan4Justice drove through a crowd of protesters and counterprotesters, injuring two people who were transported by ambulance, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Department. A man had possible broken legs, and a woman had "multiple injuries all over her body," according to Carrie Braun, director of public affairs for the department.

The department released a statement late Friday saying the driver would be booked for attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon, and that the investigation is ongoing.

This is what's called proof Beave boy, and it's from your own link. Even a pro-BLMer ran people over out of a fear for their safety. Even that person has been charged with attempted murder.

So, thanks to your own article, we now know that people who run BLM terrorists over aren't doing it maliciously but out of a legitimate fear for their own safety.

This is the second time in the last two days that you posted a ink that proved how stupid you are. Maybe it's not just Rachel Maddow's fault that you spew so much idiocy. Your own lack of reading comprehension is sometimes to blame.

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11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Who knows?  I’m not defending it, just shredding your ridiculous fantasy about him and Obama. 

The only thing that you shred is your own credibility, by posting articles which prove that your talking points are purely idiotic.

I know that once again, you're in a position where you have to lie to avoid looking stupid, so you're pretending not to know that smiliing for a photo with a world-renowned bigot is proof that you support them. Obama's own pastor is a bigot ffs. Grow up Beave.

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A politician posing for a picture at with another guest at a schmooze event is neither “chumminess” nor an endorsement. 

Smiling for a photo with a well known bigot like Farrakhan is an endorsement, period.

Can you name some reasons why you wouldn't smile and pose with Dylan Roof? Or would you just do it out of politeness? 

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I know all about Farrakhan and Nation of Islam. They’re not good people IMO. But your fear and loathing of black people, especially outspoken black people, has caused you to exaggerate greatly. 

Where have I ever displayed a "fear and loathing of black people" you god-damned liar? Post a cite right now you worthless piece of garbage.

If you knew anything at all about Farrakhan and Nation of Islam you'd have a huge problem with that guy chumming around with political leaders.

 

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