CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Yes. With slow vaccine roll out some provinces like Quebec has already adopted or provinces considering to adopt a one dose policy and Ontario should follow that policy too in order to save precious lives. It has been shown that a single dose of Pfizer vaccine would provide a very high efficacy of 80% maybe even 90% so why give the second dose to those already reasonably protected and provide a likely 10% higher efficacy while depriving millions of any protection at all and by doing so leaving millions others totally defenseless. Policy makers take note that the your right decision would save many thousands of lives while your wrong action would results in thousands of avoidable deaths. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-vaccine-effectiveness-second-doses-1.5918449 https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-researchers-say-pfizer-vaccine-s-second-dose-can-be-delayed-as-first-is-highly-effective-1.5313926 https://globalnews.ca/news/7649826/single-dose-covid-vaccine-bc-doctor/ THIS DOES NOT MAKR SENSE and the consequence will be thousands of unnecessary covid related deaths in Ontario and other provinces. Edited February 21, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 I think the answer is yes. Vaccinating most people with one dose, and giving them 92% protection makes more sense than using the second does to bump it up to 94%. High risk people could be given the second dose I guess. But the majority of the population should just receive the one dose. You could vaccinate the country a lot faster that way, and achieve great results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Loaded question. Mr. Trudeau would like you to think so. At the moment we are following the none-dose vaccination policy. So I guess any dose would be good. Any, dose at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) I don't think it is a loaded question but a good question why decision makers in Ontario are making bad decisions likely causing harm and more deaths than needed. When one dose provides very close to two dose immunity as suggested by scientists then why give non-vital second dose and deprive others the vital first dose and deprive millions of slightest immunity? Look at their stupid timetable for vaccinating elderly Ontarians!!! 80+ year olds - starting third week of March 75+ year olds - staring April 1st 70+ year olds - starting May 1st 65+ year olds - starting June 1st 60+ year olds - starting July first They are doing worse than any other province. They have been saying that they were ready for mass vaccination for a long time attacking Federal government for slow rollout but they proved that they are much worse. With warm weather just around the corner the fed up young population will restart socializing and will pass the virus to elders. Some won't listen to incompetent decision makers or governors anymore. How many elderly would have to die till July till they realize their bad decision? Edited February 25, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Yes I agree. Basically every death from covid now moving forward is blood on the government's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Even if they the Ford government had 20 million doses they could not get it done in time. I wish we could take this issue out of the hands of politicians and give it to the health care system lock stock and barrel. I am truly tired of listening to Doug's stories day after day. I am even tired of our PM and his stories of how we are ramping up the vaccines. Just my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) News just in that British Columbia is going to follow Quebec and New Brunswick and for now follow the ONE dose policy (Second dose 4 months from first dose when plenty of vaccines will be available) when there is a shortage of vaccine to save lives as one shot for Pfizer and Moderna has been proven to be almost as effective as two. Ontario politicians and decision makers where the hell do you stand on thsi? Don't play with people's lives with your stubbornness and bad decisions. Edited March 2, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) Alberta too is likely to follow BC, Quebec and New Brunswick. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-covid-coronavirus-1.5933367 Those in Ontario may pay a very high price (with their lives) though for electing incompetent stubborn politicians to government. No word yet from Ontario so based on their two dose policy it takes months to vaccinate the most venerable in Ontario. Edited March 2, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) It appears that Ontario too is coming down the wild horse eventually. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-won-t-administer-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-to-seniors-final-plan-still-in-the-works-1.5330467 Christine Elliott also said the province is looking for guidance from the NACI on delaying the second dose of the COVID-19 vaccine by up to 16 weeks in an effort to dramatically expand the number of people receiving their initial inoculation, and suggested those recommendations will be the final key Ontario needs to unlock its plan. “This could make a significant difference for Ontario in reducing hospitalizations and deaths,” Elliott told reporters at Queen’s Park. “As soon as we receive that [recommendation] we will be able to finalize the plan and get in front of you.” They (Federal, provincial and health authorities) eventually do the right thing but always too damn late days on in case of border closures and wearing masks months after I posted and demanded it here!!!!! Edited March 4, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) Post related in Federal politics thread not here so deleted. Edited March 4, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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