Leftover vaccines

[myata]

Right off the news (CBC): officials around a retirement home in Ontario reported to have jumped the queue in vaccine distribution. Board members, the director and the family etc were ostensibly given the "leftover vaccines" to avoid it being wasted.

Here, our humble public servants yet again in all their caring glory. If this is not the third world, and not somewhere on a remote reserve but right here in the nation's capitals, then what is?

In early December Health Canada approved the first vaccine for use in the country. As early as October national and provincial task forces were assembled and started training in vaccine distribution. Some were shown on TV under serious fanfare. What does it mean? Does it mean that now, February (months on), there is no standard procedure for effective and fair use of remainders, if any? And we have to thank our luck that board members, directors and family only by sheer chance all happened to be in the right place at the right time so that precious elixir was saved?

Iacobelli claims the leftover vaccine with a limited shelf life "would go to waste" and thus "a decision to prevent this from happening was made."

Not funny. Hardly entertaining. Simply disgusting. Looks like Lebanon, or Nicaragua. But who can say, entirely unexpected and not logical and natural evolution, of an entitled democracy?

P.S. It's hard to say this, but maybe in some ways at least we should be grateful for this experience. It revealed so much about ourselves, as we as a society really are in this mirror, not as we want to paint us to ourselves, that wouldn't be easy to find out otherwise - even if we cared to.

Edited February 6, 2021 by myata

[Aristides]

Why are these places getting so many extra doses that they can do this?

[myata]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Why are these places getting so many extra doses that they can do this?

Maybe because since early October an unknown number of task forces with unclear budget were working hard training in effective and fair distribution?

[Aristides]

46 minutes ago, myata said:

Maybe because since early October an unknown number of task forces with unclear budget were working hard training in effective and fair distribution?

Or maybe management pads the numbers and orders too many doses on purpose. 

Edited February 6, 2021 by Aristides

[myata]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Or maybe management pads the numbers and orders too many doses on purpose. 

And why not? And why not then, dead souls, black market redistribution (not making any allegations, only theoretically)? And how would that be different from Lebanon and Mexico?

The elites entitled to whatever they feel entitled to with a bored attempt at a vague "explanation", citizens gave up caring because nothing can be changed anyways? Could that be the destination? Or - just a thought - what if we already arrived?

[cannuck]

It is possible that those making innoculations are using the right guage needle and/or are being very careful with how far into the vial they insert it and getting 6 doses instead of the nominal 5 that each one carries.  That has become common in SK and I assume in many other places.  You can't count on exactly 6 as I understand it, so you can't book 6 x # of vials for delivery.

[myata]

13 hours ago, cannuck said:

It is possible that those making innoculations are using the right guage needle and/or are being very careful with how far into the vial they insert it and getting 6 doses instead of the nominal 5 that each one carries.  That has become common in SK and I assume in many other places.  You can't count on exactly 6 as I understand it, so you can't book 6 x # of vials for delivery.

Sure, the question is though how, by what rule or coincidence, the leftovers end up distributed to the management, board and the family, after all the exercises and preparations? And why does it remind of Lebanon, btw?

Edited February 7, 2021 by myata

[cannuck]

hardly unique to Lebanon.  ANYWHERE you give bureaucrats authority greed will raise its ugly head and they will take advantage of the situation as they have the privilege to do so with no consequence.

[myata]

On 2/7/2021 at 1:54 PM, cannuck said:

hardly unique to Lebanon.  ANYWHERE you give bureaucrats authority greed will raise its ugly head and they will take advantage of the situation as they have the privilege to do so with no consequence.

Unchecked and virtually unlimited one, at that. Who, after SARS-1, 18 years, and MERS, 15, both among the highest casualties in the developed world ever admitted any ownership for "travel from Wuhun? not a problem!" a month of barely controlled travel from the hotbed of a new and dangerous disease? And I don't mean sanctions only a legible explanation, what - does - it - mean?

No we deserve none, anything can be said from above down, spent and proclaimed, with zero checks, no explanations and vacuum of responsibility. And when, where is the surprise in the outcome?