WE Charity Scandal

[mowich]

On 8/7/2020 at 10:49 PM, WestCanMan said:

The We scandal is a dead story now.

If you look on CTV, our 6,000 covid cases still dominate the page and there's not a single mention of We. 

Actually, CTV  has mentioned several times and indeed covered part of the committee hearings being held today.  This isn't dead by a long shot, WCM.  And, the little potato still awaits his appearance before the ethics committee.   

So far the Clerk of the Privy Council has thrown Telford under the bus for not making sure the little potato recused himself as was her duty as his special advisor or whatever the hell her useless title is; all but exonerated the PSC for their stellar vetting of WE; and has admitted that he had no personal knowledge of the financial regularities surrounding WE in spite of the fact that the MSM had reported such as early as 2019.  He also admitted that in spite of the fact that this program was all about financing a program, no one bothered to check the finances of the charity solely chosen to deliver it.  One might be forgiven for thinking that it would be a no brainer to check and see how well the charity was handling their own finances considering the millions at stake.........but no.  Wasn't that important apparently. 

With the intervention of the Committee Chair that slimy sycophant Chaggar was forced to admit that she did indeed meet with one of the K brothers regarding the program - a clear conflict of interest and explains why until the Chair intervened she had refused to answer a yes or no question posed by every member of the Opposition present regarding the meeting.  Chaggar being the minister in charge of making sure all the proper vetting was done on WE - and failed miserably to do so, and who was already handing out money to the charity long before it actually got approval from cabinet. 

 

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, mowich said:

Actually, CTV  has mentioned several times and indeed covered part of the committee hearings being held today.  This isn't dead by a long shot, WCM.  And, the little potato still awaits his appearance before the ethics committee.   

Good to know. I guess they were just completely ignoring it for a couple of days.

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So far the Clerk of the Privy Council has thrown Telford under the bus for not making sure the little potato recused himself as was her duty as his special advisor or whatever the hell her useless title is;

The more levels down the ladder that they can find a fall guy, the better for Trudeau, but in all honesty, I doubt that any Canadians believe his sad explanation of "I merely failed to recuse myself."

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all but exonerated the PSC for their stellar vetting of WE;

Is this part sarcasm? I don't understand how the vetting was stellar given all the things that are below:

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and has admitted that he had no personal knowledge of the financial regularities surrounding WE in spite of the fact that the MSM had reported such as early as 2019.  He also admitted that in spite of the fact that this program was all about financing a program, no one bothered to check the finances of the charity solely chosen to deliver it.  One might be forgiven for thinking that it would be a no brainer to check and see how well the charity was handling their own finances considering the millions at stake.........but no.  Wasn't that important apparently. 

 

That seems to be the opposite of 'vetted' lol.

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With the intervention of the Committee Chair that slimy sycophant Chaggar was forced to admit that she did indeed meet with one of the K brothers regarding the program - a clear conflict of interest and explains why until the Chair intervened

I never even heard that name before. We're busy with work and we tried to get away for a night while e had a sitter lol. 

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she had refused to answer a yes or no question posed by every member of the Opposition present regarding the meeting. 

I swear to god the Liberals and all their evil minions get Special Forces training in evading answers. 

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Chaggar being the minister in charge of making sure all the proper vetting was done on WE - and failed miserably to do so, and who was already handing out money to the charity long before it actually got approval from cabinet. 

I see an attempt at the creation of a fall guy here by the Libs, placing her there to take the heat, but at the end of the day Canadians still know that Trudeau should have been aware of the fact that We gave his family half a million dollars. 

IMO this is way too big of a scandal that he should never be allowed to steer clear of it, but so was SNC.

[taxme]

On 8/1/2020 at 9:22 AM, mowich said:

With all that has come to light about the shady dealings, financial irregularities, forced employee NDAs, firing of the chair and then the entire board by WE it is simply beyond belief that no one in the entire liberal government thought to simply google the so-called charity whilst doing their so-called 'due diligence'.  If this is the way entities are investigated by this government, I wonder how many other under-the-table deals are going on right now with no oversight what-so-ever.

Corruption in Canada will never end until they the sheeple start to give a chit about what most of their traitorous politicians have been doing to them for decades now. Our dear comrade leaders have given us more taxes, more government, and taken away many of our freedoms but most Canadians do not seem to give a crap. Probably the reason for that is that the lying Canadian media tries to keep the people in a state of stupidity, panic and fear all the time over dumb azz things like Trump, global warming, and now this hoax Covid virus. I always say that when the lying media goes bonkers over things, like I just mentioned, the best thing to do is to ignore them completely. Go the opposite to what they are trying to push. Be and think like a leader, and stop trying to be a follower. What keeps those lying politicians, the lying media, and those so called health experts alive are the ones that they can get to follow them. "Woke" up. 

[OftenWrong]

On 8/12/2020 at 4:54 PM, taxme said:

Our dear comrade leaders have given us more taxes, more government, and taken away many of our freedoms but most Canadians do not seem to give a crap. Probably the reason for that is that the lying Canadian media tries to keep the people in a state of stupidity, panic and fear all the time over dumb azz things like Trump, global warming, and now this hoax Covid virus. 

That's right. Canadians don't care as long as they have the Canadian essentials in life- a hockey game, and a bottle of beer.And now they have what is essentially government-grown dope. Thanks to J. Trudeau:

"Opium is the opium for the masses."
- Albert E. Oftenwrong

 

[Argus]

The Liberal explanation that WE was all the idea of the bureaucrats and had nothing to do with them always seemed unlikely, and is now looking increasingly threadbare.

After the department reported back that WE Charity was the only group with the capacity to deliver the massive program in such a short timeframe, cabinet approved the proposal on May 22. Trudeau and Morneau have both apologized for not recusing themselves from that decision but have insisted that they were acting strictly on the recommendation of public servants.

Many of the documents support Trudeau’s version of events. But they also suggest that Youth Minister Bardish Chagger helped get WE Charity on her bureaucrats’ radar and political staff in Morneau’s office helped keep it there.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7285521/we-charity-documents-bureaucrats-student-air-program/

[Shady]

Hey @BubberMiley

Do you have any thoughts on the charity scandal?  Or do you only care what goes on with other countries leaders? 

Do you avoid all Trudeau corruption topics to pretend they don’t exist?  Just wondering.

[BubberMiley]

I think Trudeau should resign. I don't imagine you do because you have indicated there is no limit to the corruption you will tolerate.

[Shady]

1 hour ago, BubberMiley said:

I think Trudeau should resign. I don't imagine you do because you have indicated there is no limit to the corruption you will tolerate.

You think he should resign?  Why do you have him on your profile?

Edited August 19, 2020 by Shady

[BubberMiley]

To see how long it would take you to try and derail a topic by posting a picture of it. You are much easier to play than a fiddle.

But the Kielbergers should go to jail with Justin and his wife and mother. There's just no excuse for that 

Edited August 19, 2020 by BubberMiley

[WestCanMan]

Between covid and now the prorogue for the We scandal, our parliament has had to hire a new caretaker just to get rid of the cobwebs:

photo from www.justkidding.com.

 

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Between covid and now the prorogue for the We scandal, our parliament has had to hire a new caretaker just to get rid of the cobwebs:

photo from www.justkidding.com.

 

Lets not forget all the bullshit thats been piling up on the liberals benches over the last couple of months....thats going to take some heavy equipment.

[Argus]

The Liberals spent much of their time this week stonewalling in an effort to hide their corruption from Canadians. Their barking seal MPs on two committees spent hours and hours filibustering to stop those committees from looking into the WE scandal again and getting information. One has to wonder just how much criminality was involved that they'd go to such lengths to hide it. How much money were Trudeau and Morneau's friends going to make off this, and how did they intend to repay the Liberals for their largess?

Selly's column also points out what a joke Trudeau's promise of parliamentary independence and open government were. His government is more secretive and more top-down than Harper's ever was.

Electoral reform remains Trudeau’s signature broken promise, if only because he broke it so flamboyantly, so insultingly, and at such great expense. But at least he felt the need to humour the proportional representation fans who fell for his grift, setting up a committee and pretending to be interested in its findings. His promise to fix access-to-information procedures and timelines, his “open by default” pledge, didn’t even get that. It got chucked behind a sofa and forgotten.

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/chris-selley-nobody-should-tolerate-the-liberals-hideous-tricks-to-hide-we-documents/wcm/8b280e08-1816-4d98-8738-69c1329f4205

[mowich]

On 8/12/2020 at 1:49 PM, WestCanMan said:

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Is this part sarcasm? I don't understand how the vetting was stellar given all the things that are below:

Yes it was, WCM, sorry I forgot to include the /s. 

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I see an attempt at the creation of a fall guy here by the Libs, placing her there to take the heat, but at the end of the day Canadians still know that Trudeau should have been aware of the fact that We gave his family half a million dollars. 

 

Yet here we are yeah these many months later and Chagger still holds her ministry.  No real surprise there as justdim must be close to reneging on his 'gender balanced cabinet.'  Plus she ticks a few boxes. 

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IMO this is way too big of a scandal that he should never be allowed to steer clear of it, but so was SNC.

The Bloc and Conservatives are trying hard to have the hearings resumed by now that the NDP are in power there is little chance of that happening - to the detriment of democracy and our country.

 

[OftenWrong]

Bill Morneau: "I was a baaad boy..."

Morn-eau  and Trud-eau, like two peas in a pod-eau...  

Link

Edited May 13, 2021 by OftenWrong

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Bill Morneau: "I was a baaad boy..."

Morn-eau  and Trud-eau, like two peas in a pod-eau...  

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Sorry that you had to be the bearer of bad news, but that decision was either 1) a joke or 2) more evidence that we no longer live in a properly functioning democracy.

From your link: 

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The federal ethics commissioner found that former finance minister Bill Morneau, left, should have recused himself while Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, right, did not have to. (Justin Tang, Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

Why didn't Trudeau need to recuse himself? He was involved with We in the most unseemly way imaginable: https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/trudeau-government-contributed-1-18-million-to-we-day-event-in-2017-during-which-pms-mother-was-likely-paid-to-speak

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OTTAWA – Prime Minister Justin Trudeau asked WE Charity to host a 2017 Canada Day weekend event on Parliament Hill, the organization’s co-founder said, for which the government paid $1.18 million. And Trudeau’s mother, who had been receiving fees for making public appearances at WE events at the time, was a speaker at the event.

There's already a track record here of Trudeau soliciting We to host events where his mom ended up getting paid to speak.She made over a quarter of a million dollars from We, and they gave her a Mercedes just to get to speaking events. 

We also makes gag-reflex-inspiring propaganda videos for Trudeau.

How the hell does our 'ethics commissioner' feel like Morneau was guilty and la turd wasn't? How much more implicated could Trudeau have been with We? 

 

[Aristides]

Simple, Morneau is gone so he doesn't matter any more.

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Simple, Morneau is gone so he doesn't matter any more.

Exactly.

We all knew that he was a sacrificial lamb right from the get go. A 'Nigel Wright' as it were. Only this time there was an actual scandal with tens of millions of dollars paid out, not just a $90K 'whatever Duffygate was'. 

 

Edited May 13, 2021 by WestCanMan

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Exactly.

We all knew that he was a sacrificial lamb right from the get go. A 'Nigel Wright' as it were. Only this time there was an actual scandal with tens of millions of dollars paid out, not just a $90K 'whatever Duffygate was'. 

 

Politics.

[ron Young]

On 5/13/2021 at 1:54 PM, WestCanMan said:

Exactly.

We all knew that he was a sacrificial lamb right from the get go. A 'Nigel Wright' as it were. Only this time there was an actual scandal with tens of millions of dollars paid out, not just a $90K 'whatever Duffygate was'. 

 

No truth in that statement at all.

[Nefarious Banana]

40 minutes ago, ron Young said:

No truth in that statement at all.

Comedy becomes you . . . . 

[WestCanMan]

On 5/15/2021 at 10:27 AM, ron Young said:

No truth in that statement at all.

Not even the slightest attempt to discuss or add facts... just an idiotic blurp.

Run along ronnie

 

[Army Guy]

He is not here to discuss anything, he is here to troll, nothing more.

[ron Young]

On 5/16/2021 at 2:05 PM, WestCanMan said:

Not even the slightest attempt to discuss or add facts... just an idiotic blurp.

Run along ronnie

 

What is there to discuss? It doesn't matter what I tell you or show you does it? You have it all figured out already and all you really want is confirmation or confrontation.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, ron Young said:

What is there to discuss? It doesn't matter what I tell you or show you does it? You have it all figured out already and all you really want is confirmation or confrontation.

If you had something to say or show then you would have produced it, but you have nothing at all so you dismissed all the facts and fired off your childish insult. As of this moment there's never even been any attempt at all to mount a defence of what Trudeau did. The MSM just let him mischaracterize the whole situation and dropped the story like a hot potato. 

I plainly stated that Trudeau used We to funnel money into the hands of his family. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

When We was strapped for cash, Trudeau tried to shoot this enormous gob of cash to them. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

The We charity operated like a Hitler Youth camp, creating gag-worthy propaganda for him and pimping his family as royalty. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

Trudeau has a history of giving massive amounts of Canadian taxpayer dollars to the media and We, who create propaganda for him and run cover for him. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

If Trudeau had managed to get We that $900M then the total he gave to the MSM and We would be $2,195,000,000.00. That's $2.2B, and that's just what's on the books. What kind of perks do the MSM members get when they fly around on his jumbo jet to follow his election campaign? How sick is it that the PM can fly media members around to fawn all over him, and then block Rebel News from every pointing a lens at him? 

We actually was an ethics breach on top of an ethics breach. Do you have some alternative facts that we need to know about ron Young?

[ron Young]

On 5/20/2021 at 11:23 AM, WestCanMan said:

If you had something to say or show then you would have produced it, but you have nothing at all so you dismissed all the facts and fired off your childish insult. As of this moment there's never even been any attempt at all to mount a defence of what Trudeau did. The MSM just let him mischaracterize the whole situation and dropped the story like a hot potato. 

I plainly stated that Trudeau used We to funnel money into the hands of his family. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

When We was strapped for cash, Trudeau tried to shoot this enormous gob of cash to them. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

The We charity operated like a Hitler Youth camp, creating gag-worthy propaganda for him and pimping his family as royalty. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

Trudeau has a history of giving massive amounts of Canadian taxpayer dollars to the media and We, who create propaganda for him and run cover for him. Can you dispute that claim ron Young?

If Trudeau had managed to get We that $900M then the total he gave to the MSM and We would be $2,195,000,000.00. That's $2.2B, and that's just what's on the books. What kind of perks do the MSM members get when they fly around on his jumbo jet to follow his election campaign? How sick is it that the PM can fly media members around to fawn all over him, and then block Rebel News from every pointing a lens at him? 

We actually was an ethics breach on top of an ethics breach. Do you have some alternative facts that we need to know about ron Young?

No he did not. As per ethics investigation findings and report. You may want to read it. The rest of what you wrote is partisan hackery. I'm being kind when using that description. What actually happened to your integrity? I'm genuinly curious to know when, where and how you lost it.