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[eyeball]

38 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

...then I am sure you support that the same solution proposed for Israel and Palestine be applied to Canada....a multiple sovereign state solution. Let's see how much of Canada would get behind that.   

The Canadians most likely to oppose a multi state solution are conservatives of the very same sort opposed to this solution in Israel.

Those who judge Israel so harshly often do so from the comfort of their own "occupied territory", with no threat of rocket attacks on a daily basis.   Must be nice.....

Much nicer thanks. The only thing we have to put up with are whiny conservatives who are uninterested in solutions.

[WestCanMan]

18 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

They annexed land they gained through warfare.  That is fundamentally against the most basic rules of international law.  It wasn't their land.  It doesn't matter if they were defending themselves.  You can't just grab land from your enemies and make it yours.  That's literally what Hitler did.

There was a partition plan approved by the UN, Israel said "eff that we're taking a ton more".  You can bomb villages and have people flee their homes and communities and then annex those villages.  Sorry, the rules of war don't work that way.  The UN was created to prevent crap like Hitler from happening again and they crapped all over the charter.

1) look how big Muscovy used to be and how big it is now

2) there's no such thing as "here's that part of Palestine back, glad you guys are happy now!" The people who want that strip of land back don't just want that strip of land. They don't want peace. They don't want to live with neighbours who don't share their religion. They want Israel gone, completely. If you don't understand that then you don't have a clue what's going on.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

2) there's no such thing as "here's that part of Palestine back, glad you guys are happy now!" The people who want that strip of land back don't just want that strip of land. They don't want peace. They don't want to live with neighbours who don't share their religion. They want Israel gone, completely. If you don't understand that then you don't have a clue what's going on.

I do understand that.  Which is why i said there will never be peace in that region.  The right thing to do is to negotiate a 2-state solution and keep Palestine de-militarized.  May never happen since both sides are greedy, and the Palestinian leadership are a bunch of lying backstabbing genocidal terrorist basterds.

[Army Guy]

29 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I do understand that.  Which is why i said there will never be peace in that region.  The right thing to do is to negotiate a 2-state solution and keep Palestine de-militarized.  May never happen since both sides are greedy, and the Palestinian leadership are a bunch of lying backstabbing genocidal terrorist basterds.

Great , problem solved , turn the lights out for a few minutes,  let Israel solve this with a blunt instrument, push them into the sea, job done...

[WestCanMan]

35 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I do understand that.  Which is why i said there will never be peace in that region.  The right thing to do is to negotiate a 2-state solution and keep Palestine de-militarized.  May never happen since both sides are greedy, and the Palestinian leadership are a bunch of lying backstabbing genocidal terrorist basterds.

Sure, but the right thing to do is take away all the oxygen from the argument that Israel is the world's most bigoted and violent country and they are unfair with the Palestinians. Their only option right now is to defend themselves.

[pinky tuscadero]

On 12/9/2019 at 9:08 AM, Cannucklehead said:

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you heard it here folks, the dems are actually right wingers!!!

if the dems are far right then that makes the repubs on the left!! 

you are simply wrong on this point, the democrats were the party of racists and segregationists (and still are if judged by their fruits in democrat strongholds)

it was the republicans who fought and voted overwhelmingly for civil rights for all

 

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And remember that the Democratic Party had a 150-year history of support for slavery, segregation, and the Ku Klux Klan. The 150-year civil rights struggle can be summed up quite accurately: it was a struggle of Republicans supporting civil rights against Democratics opposing it. By the mid–20th century, some Democratics had come around to the Republican view that blacks had civil rights. link

 

[Argus]

22 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I do understand that.  Which is why i said there will never be peace in that region.  The right thing to do is to negotiate a 2-state solution and keep Palestine de-militarized.  May never happen since both sides are greedy, and the Palestinian leadership are a bunch of lying backstabbing genocidal terrorist basterds.

No. That will never work. At BEST that will produce an impoverished but independent Palestine under the control of people determined to take back the rest of Israel and now free to build up their military (funded by various Arab governments).

The only reasonable thing to do here is to give Gaza back to Egypt and give the rest of the West Bank to Jordan.

[Argus]

18 hours ago, pinky tuscadero said:

you are simply wrong on this point, the democrats were the party of racists and segregationists (and still are if judged by their fruits in democrat strongholds)

it was the republicans who fought and voted overwhelmingly for civil rights for all

Up until Kennedy and Johnston. Then it was the Democrats who did it, against the strenuous resistance of the Republicans. It was the Democrats who pushed through civil rights reforms. And that drove all the southern racists out of the Democratic part and over to the Republicans. Where they remain. Hell, Trump's father was in the KKK.

[Marocc]

On 12/7/2019 at 4:36 PM, Rue said:

Leftists are not aware that Christian and Jewish land rights have never been recognized in Sharia law and are the basis of the dhimmitude system referring to Jews and Christians and other non believers as Dhimmi not entitled to own land ANYWHERE in the Middle East which is intrinsically bigoted and

I'll ask again for the source of this information of yours that you spread about with confidence.

[Marocc]

On 12/13/2019 at 2:03 AM, WestCanMan said:

Sure, but the right thing to do is take away all the oxygen from the argument that Israel is the world's most bigoted and violent country and they are unfair with the Palestinians. Their only option right now is to defend themselves.

Do all those children they arrest and abuse frighten the soldiers that much? Would it be possible to 'defend' themselves without abusing other people?

[Marocc]

On 12/13/2019 at 1:24 AM, Moonlight Graham said:

The right thing to do is to negotiate a 2-state solution and keep Palestine de-militarized. 

That will never happen. You can't make peace with one side over powered by the other. Peace is not something that you can force on people.

On 12/13/2019 at 1:03 AM, WestCanMan said:

there's no such thing as "here's that part of Palestine back, glad you guys are happy now!"

No there is not. Not after that much slaughter and oppression. But it would be a step forward. They haven't stopped stealing land yet. And people actually complain of how it doesn't lead to peace to give back what they stole. Returning stolen property is not the only thing required from a thief in trial. Why would Israel be special in that case?

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, Marocc said:

That will never happen. You can't make peace with one side over powered by the other. Peace is not something that you can force on people.

No there is not. Not after that much slaughter and oppression. But it would be a step forward. They haven't stopped stealing land yet. And people actually complain of how it doesn't lead to peace to give back what they stole. Returning stolen property is not the only thing required from a thief in trial. Why would Israel be special in that case?

Seems to me you have reached an impasse peace is not possible by your side or the Israelis side, until then this conflict will continue , the Palestinians will continue to play  the innocent character to the media, while tossing rockets into Israel...and you'll have to live with Israel reactions as they destroy another piece of your nation...and the rest of the world just watches...

Peace can only happen when one or more sides declare they have lost enough citizens...not before, it has nothing to do with why you are fighting...Sure the reason why is great for the recruiting adds, and to keep the fight going....but the reason why is never discussed at the peace table, nor does it matter...Peace has a cost and you have not paid it yet....

[Argus]

5 hours ago, Marocc said:

Do all those children they arrest and abuse frighten the soldiers that much?

A rock to the head thrown by a 15 year old hurts just as much as one from an 18 year old.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Peace can only happen when one or more sides declare they have lost enough citizens...not before,

It could end once people are reduced to fighting with rocks but even then I suspect people will still be fighting over the region well into the next interregnum if not beyond and into the distant future.

Speaking of rocks there could well come a time when it's possible steer an asteroid towards the region.

[Hudson Jones]

On 12/6/2019 at 5:21 PM, Army Guy said:

That sounds like a slap across the face, Or in Canadian terms a boarding call, 5 min major....all well deserved for Justins under handed tricks to secure a seat on what really the UN....we are selling out integrity for a seat....It does not surprise me any more what the liberal government is will to do ...

 

Who does that,  backs a resolution put forth by North Korea, Zimbabwe, and the state of Palestine.....because those guys are the moral compass we all look up to, they set the standard for how nations are to conduct themselves...Man you guys that voted liberal must be just shaking your heads right now...How did we become so desperate for a seat on the UN council, one has to wonder what is going to happen when we get it, if we support this shit now , what else could we expect from your man Justin....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/canada-made-deal-with-the-devil-by-supporting-anti-israel-resolution-former-us-ambassador-to-un/ar-BBXSzG8

The resolution:

called for a “just, lasting and comprehensive peace settlement” to the Israel-Palestine conflict. The resolution explicitly referred to contested lands between the two countries as “Occupied Palestinian Territories.”

Ever seen this?

Canadian policy on key issues in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Of course JT's decision is motivated by something outside of being altruistic, but we really should know what our actual policy is on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Because their decision is according to our actual policy.

[cougar]

On 12/6/2019 at 5:21 PM, Army Guy said:

.....because those guys are the moral compass we all look up to, they set the standard for how nations are to conduct themselves...Man you guys that voted liberal must be just shaking your heads right now...

ho-ho-ho

The USA is the greatest moral compass; the war mongers of the past 40 years.   Who else started a war other than them, and if ever there was a conflict did they not try to immediately put their finger into it?

Our decision may in fact be the correct one this time.  Zimbabwe, eh, why not, what's wrong with them?

[Cannucklehead]

3 hours ago, cougar said:

ho-ho-ho

The USA is the greatest moral compass; the war mongers of the past 40 years.   Who else started a war other than them, and if ever there was a conflict did they not try to immediately put their finger into it?

Our decision may in fact be the correct one this time.  Zimbabwe, eh, why not, what's wrong with them?

Speaking of the usa and compasses, I recently heard that the earth's magnetic poles have shifted towards russia.  

Just sayin'.  

[WestCanMan]

On 12/20/2019 at 10:01 AM, Marocc said:

Do all those children they arrest and abuse frighten the soldiers that much? Would it be possible to 'defend' themselves without abusing other people?

The fact that the Israelis have to arrest children is just evidence of the sickening way that the Palestinians use their children as religiously-bigoted political pawns.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/20/2019 at 10:16 AM, Marocc said:

No there is not. Not after that much slaughter and oppression. But it would be a step forward. They haven't stopped stealing land yet. And people actually complain of how it doesn't lead to peace to give back what they stole. Returning stolen property is not the only thing required from a thief in trial. Why would Israel be special in that case?

Dude if you want to talk about slaughter and oppression then start off with the topic of Pakistan, where 10,000,000 people were killed in religious-bigotry-spawned violence and where hundreds of thousands of women were systematically raped as part of another genocide. 

If you can state a properly damning indictment of the behaviour of the Pakistani people then I'll listen to what you have to say about Palestine. If you can't then you're a bigot and your opinion is completely worthless.

[Marocc]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

If you can state a properly damning indictment of the behaviour of the Pakistani people then I'll listen to what you have to say about Palestine. If you can't then you're a bigot and your opinion is completely worthless.

I'm talking about Israel and disinclined to change the topic because you would find another one more comfortable.

[Marocc]

On 12/13/2019 at 1:24 AM, Moonlight Graham said:

Palestinian leadership are a bunch of lying backstabbing genocidal terrorist basterds.

Really? I find those exact characteristics in the Israeli government.

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Marocc said:

Really? I find those exact characteristics in the Israeli government.

 

Anyone who joined the Nazis in their mission isn't worth the planet's time.

[taxme]

On 12/7/2019 at 11:04 AM, Dougie93 said:

These Laurentian Elites in the iron triangle of Toronto - Montreal - Ottawa are feeling their grip on dictatorial power beginning to slip in the face of the Information Age.

This totalitarian loonie leftist movement within government is simply attempt to criminalize dissent against the tiny cabal of entrenched interests running this company town.

This looks like the same thing that the democrats are trying to do in America, and which the globalist elite lefty liberals in the triangle are trying to do here in Canada. Shut down anyone who dares to try and break up their monopoly and control over they the people. They will not allow nor sanction any kinds of freedom of speech unless it is approved by that hate mongering ilk mentioned above. Canadians are heading towards a communist style tyranny federal government that will criminalize anyone who dares to challenge or question their authority. The hate laws and having the Human Rights Commission around are only just the beginning. Gawd only knows as to what Canada will look like in another four more years after this prime mistake of Canada is finished with completing his task of trying to turn Canada into a 3rd world hell hole. Hey, you never know. 

[taxme]

10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Anyone who joined the Nazis in their mission isn't worth the planet's time.

Anyone who keeps kissing the butt of Israel isn't worth the planets time. 

[taxme]

15 hours ago, cougar said:

ho-ho-ho

The USA is the greatest moral compass; the war mongers of the past 40 years.   Who else started a war other than them, and if ever there was a conflict did they not try to immediately put their finger into it?

Our decision may in fact be the correct one this time.  Zimbabwe, eh, why not, what's wrong with them?

Trump is trying to change that warmongering America of the past. There have been no new wars since Trump took office. The democrats love wars because they make huge profits from war. It is a well known fact that the democrats want a war with Russia. Trump won't give them that war. 

Zimbabwe was once an exporting nation until the communists took over that country. Zimbabwe, and even South Africa, have become importing nations. This is what happens when a country kicks out the Europeans who built up that country. Tribal wars are back, mac.