Most Canadians say Canada is Broken

[Dougie93]

Canada doesn't have effective national security : dismantled by the Elites, Disarmament by Stealth.

Canada cannot defend its territory nor sovereignty nor contribute to collective security, can't even buy equipment for its troops.

Canada doesn't have free speech, any speech which offends the government is Hate Speech

Canada doesn't have a free press, bought and paid for Elitist propaganda arm.

Canada's economy is totally depended on cheap exports to America and is propped up by American corporate welfare therein.

Canada's elections are shams, fake opposition, can't vote the Elites out.

Canada's Charter of Rights is a joke, doesn't protect you, doesn't protect your property, doesn't protect your rights.

Canadians are living in denial, to even call Canada Puerto Rico North is a stretch, Puerto Ricans at least are free to come to the CONUS, Canadians are locked out.

 

 

[DrYouth]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada doesn't have effective national security : dismantled by the Elites, Disarmament by Stealth.

Canada cannot defend its territory nor sovereignty nor contribute to collective security, can't even buy equipment for its troops.

Canada doesn't have free speech, any speech which offends the government is Hate Speech

Canada doesn't have a free press, bought and paid for Elitist propaganda arm.

Canada's economy is totally depended on cheap exports to America and is propped up by American corporate welfare therein.

Canada's elections are shams, fake opposition, can't vote the Elites out.

Canada's Charter of Rights is a joke, doesn't protect you, doesn't protect your property, doesn't protect your rights.

Canadians are living in denial, to even call Canada Puerto Rico North is a stretch, Puerto Ricans at least are free to come to the CONUS, Canadians are locked out.

Canada has been slack on military commitments definitely.

Hate speech and Charter of Rights are concessions to the progressive morality patrols... definite annoyances....

The press is free... government doesn't control the press... we have CBC... much like NPR... don't overstate it.

Elections are free... the conservatives could easily have won... Sheer is just weak.

Canada is doing fine. Could it be doing better... sure... no reason for hysteria.

[Dougie93]

Just now, DrYouth said:

Canada has been slack on military commitments definitely.

Hate speech and Charter of Rights are concessions to the progressive morality patrols... definite annoyances....

The press is free... government doesn't control the press... we have CBC... much like NPR... don't overstate it.

Elections are free... the conservatives could easily have won... Sheer is just weak.

Canada is doing fine. Could it be doing better... sure... no reason for hysteria.

Not hysteria, just speaking the truth.

I don't worry about it, I trust in the Lord.

The only burden was that I cared about Canada, so the pathetic nature of it caused me grief.

Then one day I just lost my love for Canada, I didn't leave Canada, Canada left me, and then I was free.

[Dougie93]

I used to be Master Corporal Canada, I was ready to kill and die for it.

Now I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Canada if it was on fire.

 

[Dougie93]

Tell you what, it happens quick too.

I was brainwashed by the Elites and the CBC too, just like y'all are.

Then one day you just wake up and see it for what it is.

You see the brainwashing, you see it everywhere, you can't not see it.

Then you can never go back.

[Dougie93]

Liberal Party of Canada Flag, Liberal Party of Canada Song, Liberal Party of Canada totalitarian dictatorship.

Brainwashing you, to fear and loath American freedom.

Why ?

To get you to rally around them and the entrenched interests in this fake country company town.

See it for what it is.  

Once you do, you have no choice but to walk away, or be their slave.

It's up to you.  You know its true, you can feel it all around you, this Post National State is a big nothing, an empty void.

Nothing to kill and die for,  don't raise your children to be Canadian, raise them to be free of this tyranny,  don't  enslave them, tell them how it really is.

My momma still clings to Canada, but that's because she is a communist.  I still love her, but in the end, she raised me to think for myself.

To be something I can love and understand, and that just ain't what Canada is about anymore.

F@ck Canada.  To Hell with these Eastern Elites and their tyrannical rule.

Just say it once, and you can never go back, you'll be free, come what may.

Don't be afraid.  It's liberating.  Walk tall, trust in the Lord, no fears on Earth.

 

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

Yeah as someone able to live/work anywhere in Canada, the US, and Europe, including Britain, for me the Toronto area is the best choice, partly because of family and roots, but also because here I can enjoy American, British, and multiple cultures, including a certain Canadian experience and be part of a thriving economy that keeps adding opportunities, without dealing with as much threat of violence as the US; without as much taxation, red tape, or as high a cost of living as Europe; and in a very tolerant and free society with high access to media and consumer goods, including legal pot.  Canada can be annoyingly politically correct and the winter can be a bit much.  That’s where Florida and similar southern winter escapes come in, and I think they’re happy to take our money, so it works for everyone.  

I could probably live quite happily in parts of the US and Europe, but Canada has a lot going for it and there’s no compelling reason for me to live elsewhere.  Everyone’s experience is different and people want different things, which is fine.   These are all good countries and nowhere is perfect.  I like Canada’s long term chances, but we need to wake up to modern realities and amend policies accordingly.  

[Dougie93]

Toronto the Good was good.  Glenn Gould's Toronto.   I loved it.  I won't deny.

I couldn't even imagine not loving in the 6ix,  I thought I was 6ix until I die.

Then I met a woman who did not love it.   She asked me to leave it for her,  and I did.

Now when I go back,  I don't even recognize it anymore,  it's not my Tranna, it's just Ivory Towers of the Eastern Elites as far as the eye can see.

Toronto the Good is gone, and it's never coming back.

[DrYouth]

Dougie feels jilted...

He's breaking up with Canada.

I'm disillusioned too, I see the brainwashing...

So I'm just having a more realistic relationship with her... I see her flaws now.

But she's pretty good... not as good as she thinks she is... but pretty good... far from a lost cause.

I'm certainly not going to go have a love affair with the USA though.... don't need that kind of trouble.

[Dougie93]

I am a dual citizen, I have right of return in both directions, I own property in Canada, for all intents and purposes I am the Landed Gentry here.

America First, when push comes to shove, the Declaration of Independence must be defended.

None the less, when in British North America, I hold to my oaths, as an American, because that's what we do.

So on this side of the border, I resist HM enemies and defend HM peace, for Upper Canada

Bear in mind though, that is loyalty to the Crown, not Confederation.

I am no more loyal to Confederation than the Bloc Quebecois.

There's nothing more Canadian in the end, than telling Ottawa to go f@ck themselves.

[taxme]

11 hours ago, marcus said:

Off topic, but who are you or me to tell two adults what they can or can't do?

Every topic here always goes a bit off topic somewhere in the conversation. You just asked me a question that is off topic, and I just want to reply to your reply about the off topic. I am not telling anyone here as to what two people of the same sex can do or who they can go to bed with. Got it? 

I have mentioned many things here as to why Canada is broken and broke. There are approx. 2400 refugees that are hold up in some Toronto hotels and shelters, waiting to see if they can stick it to Canada once again, at a cost to the Ontario and Canadian taxpayer's of approx.$75 million taxpayers tax dollars a year. That was a figure for 2019 and it will no doubt cost the same for 2020. If that is not breaking the taxpayers of Canada then what the hell is? Trudeau borrows billions from the international banksters, and then gives(blows)it all away in the form of foreign aid to other mostly 3rd world countries. Canada is broken and going broke more and more every year thanks to the fools who keep putting in prime mistakes like Trudeau back in power.    So, let me ask you this simple question? Is this all okay with you? Yes/no? 

 

[Dougie93]

Don't think that I am your enemy, Canadians.

I don't defend Canadian Confederation anymore.   I won't kill and die for the Liberal Party of Canada totalitarian dictatorship.

But I would still kill and die for you.   You personally, as a human being.

Because that is what we Americans do.  We fight for you.  As individuals.  Your personal liberty, dignity, and freedom.

Even if you hate us,

Free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying.

From Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility and beyond.

 

[taxme]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I am a dual citizen, I have right of return in both directions, I own property in Canada, for all intents and purposes I am the Landed Gentry here.

America First, when push comes to shove, the Declaration of Independence must be defended.

None the less, when in British North America, I hold to my oaths, as an American, because that's what we do.

So on this side of the border, I resist HM enemies and defend HM peace, for Upper Canada

Bear in mind though, that is loyalty to the Crown, not Confederation.

I am no more loyal to Confederation than the Bloc Quebecois.

There's nothing more Canadian in the end, than telling Ottawa to go f@ck themselves.

It would seem that there are quite a lot of so called Canadians that have dual citizenship in Canada. Apparently, there are approx 36 MP's in Ottawa that have dual citizenship. Why are these people allowed to be MP's? Where does their loyalty lie? The Canadian MSM liberal media made a big stink about Scheer having dual citizenship but for some n/k reason, they seem to have forgotten or purposely ignore the fact that there are many MP's in Ottawa that have dual citizenship. Personally, I think that if one is a Canadian, especially an MP, then if they have dual citizenship, they should either drop their other countries citizenship, and be Canadian, or go back to that country, and give up their Canadian citizenship. Canada appears to be so broken up in everything  it seems to do. I know that if Trudeau had his way, he would open up the border gates and let the whole world walk right on in and get rid of citizenship. Liberalism??? 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

It would seem that there are quite a lot of so called Canadians that have dual citizenship in Canada. Apparently, there are approx 36 MP's in Ottawa that have dual citizenship. Why are these people allowed to be MP's? Where does their loyalty lie? The Canadian MSM liberal media made a big stink about Scheer having dual citizenship but for some n/k reason, they seem to have forgotten or purposely ignore the fact that there are many MP's in Ottawa that have dual citizenship. Personally, I think that if one is a Canadian, especially an MP, then if they have dual citizenship, they should either drop their other countries citizenship, and be Canadian, or go back to that country, and give up their Canadian citizenship. Canada appears to be so broken up in everything  it seems to do. I know that if Trudeau had his way, he would open up the border gates and let the whole world walk right on in and get rid of citizenship. Liberalism??? 

My loyalty lies with the Declaration of Independence preamble and associated light of civilization itself.

My loyalty lies with individual liberty, freedom and the dignity that comes with it.

America first.

That none the less includes defending Canadians, by way of the United Kingdom - United States Security Agreement.

Canadians won't defend Canada, but we will, as the leaders of the free world, same as it ever was, since 1916.

[taxme]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Don't think that I am your enemy, Canadians.

I don't defend Canadian Confederation anymore.   I won't kill and die for the Liberal Party of Canada totalitarian dictatorship.

But I would still kill and die for you.   You personally, as a human being.

Because that is what we Americans do.  We fight for you.  As individuals.  Your personal liberty, dignity, and freedom.

Even if you hate us,

Free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying.

From Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility and beyond.

 

Most Canadians have no animosity towards Americans. But there are some Canadians who do despise America, like many liberals/socialists, and of course our dear beloved alt-left Canadian liberal media, who are always looking for an excuse to mock and attack America and Trump. With Trump as President, every day on the CBC there is always some bull chit being spread on their bought off airwaves that are said about Trump. They never have once said that Trump has done something good for America. Only report gloom and doom. I swear that the CBC must be an arm of CNN or MSNBC. 

[Dougie93]

18 minutes ago, taxme said:

Most Canadians have no animosity towards Americans. But there are some Canadians who do despise America, like many liberals/socialists, and of course our dear beloved alt-left Canadian liberal media, who are always looking for an excuse to mock and attack America and Trump. With Trump as President, every day on the CBC there is always some bull chit being spread on their bought off airwaves that are said about Trump. They never have once said that Trump has done something good for America. Only report gloom and doom. I swear that the CBC must be an arm of CNN or MSNBC. 

We know who is wit us and who is agin us, don't worry.

We know who are brothers and sisters are in Canada.

We will not forsake you.

Hate the regime, don't hate the people, even the misguided.

We fight for the individual.

E pluribus unum : Out of many, one.

Edited November 30, 2019 by Dougie93

[taxme]

4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

On an overcrowded planet where coastal cities disappear under water and fertile lands turn into desert due to climate change, all roads lead to Canada.  We better be prepared because being one of the best countries in which to live and work only adds to the draw of its geography.  

Why do people like you always like to leave out world over-population, and mass immigration into Canada which may be causing climate change in Canada? If people like you are so concerned about climate change, then go out there and speak out about world population and mass immigration. Stop trying to tell people like me that I am the problem. I own one car, and live in a condo. Where am I causing harm in any way to Canada and climate change? As yourself as to why liars like Al Gore, David Suzuki, and Leonardo Decrapio why they own so many homes and vehicles and fly all around the world on jet airplanes. All these climate change pusher do it every day, and pollute the climate. Go after them for a change, and leave the ordinary Canadian bloody well alone. This is why Canada is broken. We have liars in the media and our politicians who keep telling us that we the ordinary people are the problem. Those two morons need a good kick in the azz. Works for me. 

[Dougie93]

Zeitgeist is not a bad guy, neither is Doctor Youth.

They're trying to hold on to the Canada of their youth.

Thing is, that Canada is gone and it ain't coming back.

I was where they are now, I know where they are coming from.

It's just comes to facing reality in the end, Canada is dead, there is nothing left, all that is left is a Post National State totalitarian dictatorship.

It gives me no pleasure to speak the truth of it, none the less, the truth will set you free, and I gotta live free, or die, on either side of the border.

[Zeitgeist]

I agree with Dougie and Taxme on a couple of points in this discussion: Mass migration is a serious challenge for Canada and all stable free democracies, and, I do question whether all the aspects of Canada that many Canadians value can be protected anymore.  There is tremendous pressure on our city services and infrastructure in Southern Canada and there are some foreign-born segments of society who seem determined to import and impose a way of life that most Canadians don’t want but may now be powerless to stop.  While I oppose Quebec’s Bill 21 for trying to dictate religious expression, I think it’s concerning when any immigrant of any background comes to Canada with little intention to assimilate.  We’re getting voting blocks attempting to swing elections with worrisome agendas.  It’s the country within a country phenomenon.  

It’s happening to a lesser extent with immigration from mainland China.  Live and let live, yes, but I’m not sure these and other phenomena are addressing Canadians’ long-term interests.  Another example is international students.   Half of all Ontario college students are international students.  Even though these students pay higher tuition than Canadians, the spots are still heavily subsidized by Canadian taxpayers, and ultimately, Canadians are being squeezed out of the programs they need.  English language standards have dropped in an effort to appease and pass these students.  Who does our government and education system serve?

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-the-rise-of-the-organized-muslim-vote-in-canada/amp

https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/gta/2019/09/28/international-education-in-canada-is-booming-but-the-system-is-flawed-heres-how-to-fix-it.html

Edited November 30, 2019 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

It's not going to stop, it's only going to intensify, Suicide of the West, just as James Burnham prophesized.

Pseudo Communist Cultural Marxism is just going to keep expanding in the Post National State until it runs into a fiscal and economic crisis.

Then all heck is going to break loose.

Prepare yourselves accordingly, hedge for global leverage unwinding, can't time the markets, but it has to happen at some point.

Edited November 30, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

This is why you don't want kids.   Shit is gonna hit the fan, you're gonna have to move, fast and light, no attachments, it's gonna come down to the quick and the broke.

There's only so long you can stave off the consequences of bad governance, you know it's true, if you haven't had any kids yet : don't

No kids, no problems, you have nothing to fear.  If you have kids, they got you by the balls, better buckle up, circle the wagons now.

If you got money and you are hedged, no biggie, but if you are living hand to mouth, with kids ; you need to get out of that, right now.

The government is not going to save you, they can't even save themselves.

If you cling to this Post National State, after you have been warned, you're going to get what you deserve.

Doesn't protect you, doesn't protect your rights, doesn't protect your kids, don't come crying later.

Racist apartheid totalitarian police state, what is done to the Indians ; will be done to you, make no mistake.

I was an armed agent of this state, I know how black its heart is, Sunny Ways Smiley Face : Orwellian. 

Consider yourself warned.

 

Edited December 1, 2019 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

A little fear can be motivational, but living in a constant state of elevated fear is debilitating and counterproductive both to the individual and the state apparatus.  Hope, even if somewhat misplaced, is a more powerful motivator.  I’m skeptical of fear peddlers because usually such narratives are attempts at controlling human behaviour.  Both the right and the left do this.  Right now the left is trying to get state control of private property in the name of saving the planet.  The right is trying to shut out the developing world in the name of safety and security.  Both narratives are overblown and result in keeping people down.  Marginalization is another great excuse of the left for collectivization and wealth redistribution.  Stick to the moderate and sensible and, by and large, we’ll all do fine.  

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

  Stick to the moderate and sensible and, by and large, we’ll all do fine.  

Well like I say, if you got money and you are hedged for a massive market correction, you'll be fine.  In fact, you'll be able to take advantage to buy low.

But 50% of Canadians are $200 away from being bankrupt.   Those people will get crushed in a correction.

I'm just saying, the government is not going to save them, but that is clearly what they are relying on.

[Dougie93]

Also be aware that in Canada it's not like America ; you can't walk away from your mortgage in Canada, they will pursue to the ends of the earth for the balance.

[Dougie93]

It's not so much that people are not sensible, they're just trying to maintain a middle class lifestyle in the face of mounting costs of living incited by the government.

The policies of the governments in Canada are driving the prices of everything up across the board.  Way more so than in other countries.

Canada is one of the most expensive countries in the world.  It's much more expensive than in America.

So the net result in Canada is a cost of living crisis.   

These people are not on the brink of bankruptcy because they are being crazy reckless, but just to be middle class in Canada, is driving them deep into debt.

Canadians are not blowing money on crazy things, just buying a house in Canada, then running it, that alone is beyond the means of most Canadians now.

They still want to do it, you can't blame them, but if they can't cover when the shit hits the fan, they're gonna be homeless.

And like I said, the banks in Canada are not going to let them walk, they will garnish whatever wages they make, until those mortgages are paid.

They are going to be in deep shit with 20% of their wages being garnished: with the price of things in this country, in an economic crisis.

This is not normal.   It's never been like this in Canada.  This is uncharted waters.

Edited December 1, 2019 by Dougie93