Most Canadians say Canada is Broken

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, taxme said:

Communist China is on the march to world dominance, if they can and are allowed to be able to do so. Our tech globalist social media giants like Twitter, Youtube, Google and Facebook appear to enjoy dealing with communist China.

I wonder why this is so? 

1.3 billion consumer base with skyrocketing economy is a business market no corporation would ignore.

[cannuck]

15 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1.3 billion consumer base with skyrocketing economy is a business market no corporation would ignore.

and one that if you want to get inside as a major player, you will do so by giving up 50% of your equity to the state (more to the point a state owned or state favoured company).  You will do what you are told, when you are told (including kickbacks at all levels).  Yes, there is money to be made, but there is a price to be paid.

[Moonlight Graham]

3 minutes ago, cannuck said:

and one that if you want to get inside as a major player, you will do so by giving up 50% of your equity to the state (more to the point a state owned or state favoured company).  You will do what you are told, when you are told (including kickbacks at all levels).  Yes, there is money to be made, but there is a price to be paid.

Sure.  But what do we do about it?  Corporations competing against each other to please international stock holders will do what it takes if they can make money at it, they care about money and not defending ethics or liberal democratic values unless forced to by government regulations or consumers, that's how markets work.

[cannuck]

What WE can do (and any other country) is simply tell China that we have an open market to import ANYTHING that fully meets our standards for product quality, safety, labour standards, business access and reciprocal trade.  If product (or exporting country) does NOT meet those standards, you don't get the bags of cash (and jobs) that we give away by the second.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, cannuck said:

and one that if you want to get inside as a major player, you will do so by giving up 50% of your equity to the state (more to the point a state owned or state favoured company).  You will do what you are told, when you are told (including kickbacks at all levels).  Yes, there is money to be made, but there is a price to be paid.

And let's not forget also giving them the full technical specifications for whatever you're making - which you have to make THERE - not here. And you have to keep the profits there too. Which means whatever contracts western companies get with China don't benefit their own countries much, if at all.

I've also said before that in a few years Boeing and Airbus are going to start facing huge competition from Chinese aircraft makers using the blueprints from their own planes.

Edited November 29, 2019 by Argus

[taxme]

22 hours ago, ProudConservative said:

Wouldn't you like to see China take over?... I mean they build 600kph MAGlev trains. They design gorgeous botanical gardens, and super slick skyscrapers. The dictatorship is extremely efficient, and China is an extremely affordable place to live. They don't have narcissism, junkies or degenerates. They don't have any political correctness, or transgender culture. This is a $200 a night hotel in Guangzhou.

 

 

Well, maybe you can explain to me as to why here in Canada we do not have an high speed rail or big beautiful hotels to be able to stay in for $200 a night here in Canada? Of course, the cost cost of living is also much lower, hence the lower hotel prices. We have a passenger rail system called Via Rail, and the cars are not that great looking at all inside. Just basic looking rail cars. Canada is going down the slippery slope every day thanks to the people who keep putting in and allowing liberals, socialists and environmentalists too pretty much run and ruin and destroy everything they touch in this pathetic. Canada and Canadians should be one of the most wealthy countries in the world , and all Canadians should be living the lifestyles of the rich and famous. But instead, we have governments who like to take and give away our tax dollars too third world countries, like help build some countries their infrastructure, and trying to help poor African women to educate themselves. Wth? 

Canada throws away billions of tax dollars every year in the form of foreign aid, and blows those tax dollars without our permission. Foreign aid has probably cost the taxpayer's of Canada over the past several decades trillions of tax dollars that could have stayed here in Canada instead, and benefited Canadians, not a bunch of foreign strangers. When we start to get rid of prime mistakes like Trudeau forever, Canada could start to look a lot better in shape than what it looks like today. Our politicians and the Canadian MSM will tell us that all is okay, but it is not. Trudeau borrows billions of dollars from the banks every year, and then gives those borrowed dollars away to strangers is one reason why when I go to America for a holiday, I have to lose approx. 35% on my Canadian peso. And I am not falling for this nonsense that the lower Canadian dollar is good for our manufacturing people in business. If those words come out of the mouths of our politicians or the media, than I know that it must be all just more lies. Just my opinion and more ranting of course. 

[cannuck]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

And let's not forget also giving them the full technical specifications for whatever you're making - which you have to make THERE - not here. And you have to keep the profits there too. Which means whatever contracts western companies get with China don't benefit their own countries much, if at all.

I've also said before that in a few years Boeing and Airbus are going to start facing huge competition from Chinese aircraft makers using the blueprints from their own planes.

A good friend got into the automated animal feeding business about 20 years ago.  He took over from another IT guy, and was very good at his job, so 15 years ago, he was sequestered for almost a year re-writing all of their software to take advantage of new OS and hardware.  They sent him to their first big international IT show where on day 2 he was scheduled to release their new systems.  On day one, people on the floor were offering to sell him his own software.

[taxme]

20 hours ago, marcus said:

I would agree that China is more of an economic foe. But China should not be looked at as a threat. They would not survive if trade stopped happening with the west. They rely on the status quo and would not want to rock the boat. Of course, they will do what they can to have economic advantage over others. One of few things that I agree with Trump is that China has slowly created an unbalanced economic playing field with the protectionist policies. I would also be concerned about adopting their technology. But of course, as Snowden has confirmed, it's not only China who wants to spy on people. The U.S., through different tech companies, is doing the same thing.

C'mon! Stop that shit. 

That is not my shit? That is Bible shit. Probably, no one will find anything in the newly written bibles of today like where homosexuality was once written in the old bibles where God abhored homosexuality. Man must not lie down with another man. The preachers use to teach this before political correctness came along. Today, we will never hear any preacher dare say from the pulpit the words yellow race or the evils of homosexuality today. That is grounds for charging the poor preacher guy/gal with promoting hatred and being terribly offensive. Aw well.   

[taxme]

20 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1.3 billion consumer base with skyrocketing economy is a business market no corporation would ignore.

You seem to have neglected to mention that people living in communist China have no freedom of speech at all. If they dare say anything against the government, they are immediatly arrested, charged and thrown in the communist gulag. But those globalist corporations do not care about the lives of the people living in China. With them it's all just about the money. I love money too, but I also believe in freedom of speech. But it is quite evident that many Canadians could care less about freedom of speech themselves anyway. Hey, if I can get what I want at Walmart for a cheap price, than that is okay with me. Besides, we all know that big globalist corporations and big tech companies can get their products made in China for next to nothing, and sell them to Canadians for almost twenty times the price. Don't be too sure that their economy is all that great. They have been losing plenty of money ever since Donald Trump came along. Just saying. 

[marcus]

11 hours ago, taxme said:

That is not my shit? That is Bible shit. Probably, no one will find anything in the newly written bibles of today like where homosexuality was once written in the old bibles where God abhored homosexuality. Man must not lie down with another man. The preachers use to teach this before political correctness came along. Today, we will never hear any preacher dare say from the pulpit the words yellow race or the evils of homosexuality today. That is grounds for charging the poor preacher guy/gal with promoting hatred and being terribly offensive. Aw well.   

Off topic, but who are you or me to tell two adults what they can or can't do?

[Cannucklehead]

13 hours ago, taxme said:

That is not my shit? That is Bible shit. Probably, no one will find anything in the newly written bibles of today like where homosexuality was once written in the old bibles where God abhored homosexuality. Man must not lie down with another man. The preachers use to teach this before political correctness came along. Today, we will never hear any preacher dare say from the pulpit the words yellow race or the evils of homosexuality today. That is grounds for charging the poor preacher guy/gal with promoting hatred and being terribly offensive. Aw well.   

The bible also says thou shalt not kill.  What I cant find written anywhere in the bible is do what we say, not what we do.  

Curious.  

[Dougie93]

On 11/26/2019 at 4:39 PM, taxme said:

Quebec will never leave Canada. Why would they when they can suck whatever they want out of Canada for free.

Canada will experience a fiscal and economic crisis,  when it comes to pass, it will crack the Confederation.

[Dougie93]

On 11/25/2019 at 11:05 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

If America sank into the ocean tomorrow it would be hugely disruptive but we'd very likely survive, don't kid yourself.  The rest of NATO would crank up the military procurement real fast for themselves and each other.

Canada comes with us, even if we have to nuke your priggish free riding lazy asses.

[Zeitgeist]

On an overcrowded planet where coastal cities disappear under water and fertile lands turn into desert due to climate change, all roads lead to Canada.  We better be prepared because being one of the best countries in which to live and work only adds to the draw of its geography.  

Edited November 30, 2019 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

On an overcrowded planet where coastal cities disappear under water and fertile lands turn into desert due to climate change, all roads lead to Canada.  We better be prepared because being one of the best countries in which to live and work only adds to the draw of its geography.  

Dream on, the jetstream is broken, Canada will be a frozen wasteland, arctic air mass come down all the way to Toronto.

[Dougie93]

The densely populated region of Canada is gonna get the worst of it, because that is where the hot air is going to be crashing into the arctic air.

The storms are already harder on Canada, ice storms, flooding, Canada is already taking a beating.

[Dougie93]

The other aspect is that governance in Canada is completely broken, Canada can't build, Canada can't even build a pipieline

America will be building the infrastructure to meet the challenge on a massive scale, the Canadian government meanwhile will fiddle while Canada drowns.

[Zeitgeist]

Canada will be a beneficiary of climate change.  We need settlement and immigration policies that incentivize moving up north.  

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada will be a beneficiary of climate change.  We need settlement and immigration policies that incentivize moving up north.  

Just keep telling yourself these lies, I get it, you have little choice when clinging to the broken pathetic thing that is Canada.

[Dougie93]

Broken Post National State ruled by the Woke, loading up on third world refugees, while unable to build and without the resources to pay for them ; bye Canada.

[DrYouth]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

America will be building the infrastructure to meet the challenge on a massive scale, the Canadian government meanwhile will fiddle while Canada drowns.

LOL... America building infrastructure?

How is anything going to get through congress that doesn't directly benefit lobbyists....

The political system in America is more broken than the political system in Canada.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, DrYouth said:

LOL... America building infrastructure?

How is anything going to get through congress that doesn't directly benefit lobbyists....

The political system in America is more broken than the political system in Canada.

Nothing wrong with lobbying, money is speech, same as it ever was.

[Dougie93]

The Canadian Fantasy :  America is destroyed, Canada becomes a Socialist Paradise.

The reality : Big Red White & Blue Machine prospers like no other, Canada wallows in dysfunction.

[DrYouth]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The Canadian Fantasy :  America is destroyed, Canada becomes a Socialist Paradise.

The reality : Big Red White & Blue Machine prospers like no other, Canada wallows in dysfunction.

Yours sounds like a reverse fantasy to me.

Congress is a shit show.... everybody knows it... bought and paid for...

Congress jumping up and functionally responding to climate change with infrastructure development is a laughable fantasy.

So sign of such a capacity to cooperate anywhere in sight.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, DrYouth said:

Yours sounds like a reverse fantasy to me.

Congress is a shit show.... everybody knows it... bought and paid for...

Congress jumping up and functionally responding to climate change with infrastructure development is a laughable fantasy.

So sign of such a capacity to cooperate anywhere in sight.

Justin Trudeau blatantly commits obstruction of justice, over and over,  where is your congress to investigate ?  There is none.

Meanwhile the American congress and separation of powers is functioning as it was designed to, and Republicans are controlling the agenda.

America is working just fine, Hurly Burly, same as it ever was, Canada meanwhile is a lawless dictatorship of the Elites who can never be voted out.