Prediction: Trudeau wins a majority this Fall

[QuebecOverCanada]

And I'm very far from a Liberal, but let's face it, Trudeau is going to win comfortably this October.

The economy is doing very good. Deficits do not matter in the eye of the electorate, it has no significant immediate impact on the people, so it won't matter that Trudeau created a huge deficit.

The media has been bought out by the Liberals in the past 4 years, and won't bite the hand that feeds. No scrutiny against him, it had to be a female cabinet Minister to come out against the criminal in charge of the country.

The mistakes and gaffes from the PM do not matter as much to a large number of voters than his looks and how young and dynamic he is. 

Trudeau imported a large voter base through legal and illegal ways. The major cities will be dark red come election time.

Andrew Scheer is a shill and has the charisma of an oyster. No one trusts him even in his own camp. He cheated his way to the Conservative's nomination just like the Clintons did in 2016 for the DNC.

Jagmeet Singh has dragged the NDP to its lowest support since Jack died 8 years ago. It will help the Leftist vote to be more concentrated for Trudeau.

Trudeau is also first in Québec and Ontario and the Eastern provinces.

[dialamah]

I am still hopeful he'll end up with a minority at most.  I'd be ok with either a Liberal or Conservative minority.  Thinking I'll vote my heart this time and not "against" anyone. 

[Nefarious Banana]

A very disturbing trend in Canada now is that Justin Trudeau's behavior and lies have become 'acceptable' . . . more disturbing yet is his cabinet of brain-dead penguins have accepted his criminal behavior and have surrounded and support him. Those same brain-dead penguins have a lesser grasp of 'ethics' than their leader . . . . this country is in deep shit.

[Shady]

I think he'll win, but with a minority government.

[Army Guy]

I'm baffled , on how Canadians can support this guy, with everything he has done over the last 4 years and to be able to shrug it off , and vote for him again, blows my mind....have our morals and values slipped that much ? and they have the balls to comment on the other leaders in this race....I'm starting to see why Dougie views on our nation are so bent. "Just yell it loud and often and they will believe you" because we are becoming lemmings....

What is going to be the consequences if Justin and his merry band of lairs get back in, Do we continue to out of control spending....more lies and deceit , and what of Alberta will they carry out their threat of separation, and if one falls what of the rest, like Saskatchewan, and Quebec.    

[Moonlight Graham]

35 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I'm baffled , on how Canadians can support this guy, with everything he has done over the last 4 years and to be able to shrug it off , and vote for him again, blows my mind....have our morals and values slipped that much ?

No son, it's just that the other parties are just that terrible.

Trudeau has an approval rating lower than Donald Trump's.  But he's still going to win.  Hopefully just a minority.  This country is going to sh!t.

[betsy]

3 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

And I'm very far from a Liberal, but let's face it, Trudeau is going to win comfortably this October.

 

 

That's so depressing........

Edited September 4, 2019 by betsy

[WestCanMan]

I don't believe what "the polls say". 

Fake polls were just used as a tool to back the media's stance that Trudeau's scandals weren't a big deal.

They throw out some lukewarm coverage and show some video footage of people downplaying the incident and they come out with "Look at the latest and greatest polling results - no one cares about these teensy scandals! And hey, look at these ducks that walked across the highway in Kitchener yesterday! Sooo adorable!!!!"

When Trump was drawing massive crowds all over the States the media down there used fake polling results to make Hillary seem like the more popular candidate too. 

Stick to your guns people. Vote.

 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

I'm baffled , on how Canadians can support this guy,

His big support is in Ontario and Quebec. Ontario conservative support plunged after suffering very slight budget cuts by Ford. The people of this province are horrified at the "DESTRUCTION" of our education and health care system. Every day the media is in full horror mode as it shows us more poor college kids who can't go to university because of the cruelty of Ford, or this or that group protesting at cuts to desperately needed health care. Ford's cuts are about 1/10th as severe as Mike Harris did when he got in, but there's no sense of context whatsoever. Ontarions don't understand budget cuts. Budgets are only ever supposed to increase! And if you must cut the budget, how can you be so cruel as to cut health care! Or education!? Or social welfare programs!?

That these make up virtually all the Ontario budget is not something Ontarions understand or care about. Any cuts for any reason are unacceptable.

As for Quebec, it is doing as it invariably does, voting for the French guy.

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

  This country is going to sh!t.

Gone to.   This has been a process. 

The Liberals started dismantling Canada to replace it with a Post National State in the 1960's

Even before PET.  The Liberal Party of Canada Flag and the Liberal Party of Canada Song were adopted under Pearson.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Justin Trudeau will win another majority this October. The economy is doing great. There has been many sunny days in Canada past four years, the nation still remember the nightmare when Harper ruled for years and he has proven that in spite of young age he is a great politician, leader and campaigner. Harper underestimated him 4 years ago and he paid a heavy price. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by CITIZEN_2015

[-TSS-]

Every time FPTP produces a result of the largest party being in the minority it uis another example of how outdated the system is. It is designed for two parties and obviously one of them wins the majority. When there are several parties with considerable support the result becomes capricious.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

Every time FPTP produces a result of the largest party being in the minority it uis another example of how outdated the system is. It is designed for two parties and obviously one of them wins the majority. When there are several parties with considerable support the result becomes capricious.

But what Canadians don't like is the power sharing, PR requires Canadians to make deals with each other, but there's no middle ground, so all PR results in is more constitional crises and more eclections, and Canadians don't like elections neither.

The Leftists in Canada will claim that Canada wants PR, but it's the NDP and Greens which want it, which is why the Liberals ran on it, as they were stealing the NDP platform in order to take Mulcair down, because Mulcair was moving the NDP into Liberal territory and so was a threat to the Liberals.

Mission accomplished, because after the election the NDP blew themselves up and have collapsed with all their support bleeding to the Liberals, or to the Greens who are no threat to the Liberals yet.

[Zeitgeist]

I miss Harper.  He was a much steadier hand.  

[WestCanMan]

Trudeau has literally no chance.

He will be eviscerated on the debate stage for his lies about the debt, his love of terrorists & islamic state, his crimes, and his divisive rhetoric.

[Yzermandius19]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trudeau has literally no chance.

He will be eviscerated on the debate stage for his lies about the debt, his love of terrorists & islamic state, his crimes, and his divisive rhetoric.

Scheer will be eviscerated as well, you are too busy tunnel visioning on Trudeau's weaknesses to realize it's not about how strong Trudeau is but how weak his opposition is compared to him. Trudeau wins that battle.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

31 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Scheer will be eviscerated as well, you are too busy tunnel visioning on Trudeau's weaknesses to realize it's not about how strong Trudeau is but how weak his opposition is compared to him. Trudeau wins that battle.

Indeed, the NDP handed this election to the Liberals when they blew themselves up.

Gerry Butz steals the NDP platform renders NDP irrelevant.

The Cons can only win when the left is split, with the Cat in the Hat replacing Mulcair, the Liberals are large and in charge,

There's no point in even voting, other than as a civic duty to uphold the institution.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Dougie93

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Scheer will be eviscerated as well, you are too busy tunnel visioning on Trudeau's weaknesses to realize it's not about how strong Trudeau is but how weak his opposition is compared to him. Trudeau wins that battle.

Trudeau is a stammering idiot who won an election because of his daddy’s name and 3 years worth of CTV and CBC acting like Duffygate was prime times news. 

His virtue-signalling brand is diminished because og his litany of ethics breaches, his anti-Semitic friends, and the fact that 4 women left his party - entirely because of his treatment of them. 

Aside from his fake virtue-signalling he has a legacy of embarrassment, failure and debt. 

How do you see Trudeau as being “strong” Yz? Drink the CBC kool-aid much?

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Indeed, the NDP handed this election to the Liberals when they blew themselves up.

Gerry Butz steals the NDP platform renders NDP irrelevant.

The Cons can only win when the left is split, with the Cat in the Hat replacing Mulcair, the Liberals are large and in charge,

There's no point in even voting, other than as a civic duty to uphold the institution.

If the Libs have a chance it’s mainly because of Bernier splitting the conservative vote.

He’s going to take a huge chunk of the conservative vote in Quebec because he’s french, and he’s going to get a lot of votes in areas which have a lot of staunchly conservative voters. 

I agree that Jagmeet Singh’s weakness will help Trudeau a lot, but what Liberal apologists are underestimating is the Green Party’s draw on leftists. Their name resonates with young people and their virtue-signalling brand is basically undiminished so they’re a good place for people who can’t stomach voting for la Turd to land. 

[Dougie93]

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If the Libs have a chance it’s mainly because of Bernier splitting the conservative vote.

Trudeau is going to win relatively easily, hate to burst your bubble

Not that I care, nor should you, all the parties are the same, the Elite Consensus cannot be voted out, it's a fake opposition.

It would have to be overthrown by counterrevolution.

Not revolution, the Elites are the ones who have overthrown Canada, that would have to be reversed somehow.

Understand that parliament itself is broken, everything is run by the PMO, it's a tyranny, democracy itself is not really in effect, it's a facade.

They're like the Bolsheviks, which was the similar rule of an Elite Consensus, Bolshevik means Majoritarian and they were urban academic elites.

It's a Bolshevist facade, otherwise known as a Potemkin Village,

Canada is like a Soft Soviet Union, a fake country people's republic run by and for the Liberal Eastern Elite Bolshevists.

They just happen to be butter soft.   That could change though, as they fall under the undue influence of Beijing, it will become more like Hong Kong is now.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Dougie93

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Trudeau is going to win relatively easily, hate to burst your bubble.

You’re listening to CBC and paying too much attention to their polls, but even the polls don’t have Trudeau cruising to an easy victory. 

On the street there’s not much support for Trudeau and a lot of the people who voted for him in 2015 feel duped. He will have less support than last time around and Scheer hasn’t been dogged by a fake scandal for 3 years.

If you see Trudeau as a winner that’s just your own perception dougie. His charisma and his colourful socks don’t impress everyone. 

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You’re listening to CBC and paying too much attention to their polls

I don't read any polls at all, polls before the election are meaningless, the poll on the night of the election is the only one that matters.

The Cons are feeble, they are not even appealing to conservatives, the Cons are appealing to the Liberal voters.

It's not going to work.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you see Trudeau as a winner that’s just your own perception dougie. His charisma and his colourful socks don’t impress everyone. 

Well as a Pequiste I want Trudeau to win, because he is decadent enough to be self destructive to the elite agenda.

He incites the most hatred against the elites, he incites the most fury against the government.

So Trudeau is useful to us, as a means to an end.

That's not why I think he's going to win though, it's just a convenient result for us.

Again, these elites staged a revolution in the 1960's, as the Quebecois say; a Quiet Revolution.

So you can't vote them out, and unlikely there will be a violent insurrection against them and that would be likely to fail in any case,

So all you can do is incite them to overthrow themselves.  Otherwise known as feeding them rope to hang themselves with.

The populace in Canada is not going to make any change, until they feel the pain of it, until the consequences of the fake country come to roost.

This is a long war, it requires patience, elections don't matter until they do, and they won't matter until things get much worse.

Accelerationism.    Trudeau is the worst choice for Confederation, which makes him the best choice for those of us trying to bring it down.

There was a civil war of sorts in the 1960's, and at the end of it, the Pequistes tried to overthrow Ottawa.

They lost.  Pierre Trudeau beat them.  Live on tv.   The result was that PET became all powerful, like an emperor.

And so he was able to impose radical change from above, revolutionary change.

All that has all come together over time; into the Post National State. 

Now ruled over by his son.   So the Post National State is even a dynastic monarchy. 

Pretenders to the throne.    You can't vote them out.  

Elections won't matter unless and until Canadians become counterrevolutionary.  

Which at this time they are clearly not.     Things will obviously have to get worse before they can get better.

Trudeau will make things worse; the Ottawa Emperor has no clothes.

The Cons won't make things better, they'll just do nothing, and then the Liberals will be back in no time, so that's a waste of time.

I'm in the counter culture now, conservatism is radical now, it's the fringe, so there's no point in getting wrapped up in elections which don't matter.

No matter who I vote for, they are not going to in any way enact classical liberal limited government conservatism. The elites are all of the left, to include the Cons.

So voting for an MP is of no particular use at this juncture, they are all cronies, I simply vote as a civic duty, to uphold the Institution itself. 

Parliamentary Supremacy may come back someday.   When things get much worse and Canadians are backs against the wall as a result.

God save the Queen and Her Mohawk Warriors.  Vive le Quebec libre, je me souviens.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Dougie93

[Army Guy]

 

54 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You’re listening to CBC and paying too much attention to their polls, but even the polls don’t have Trudeau cruising to an easy victory. 

On the street there’s not much support for Trudeau and a lot of the people who voted for him in 2015 feel duped. He will have less support than last time around and Scheer hasn’t been dogged by a fake scandal for 3 years.

If you see Trudeau as a winner that’s just your own perception dougie. His charisma and his colourful socks don’t impress everyone. 

On one hand you seem confident that Justin's merry band of crooks are on the way out, but as soon as you mention Bernier your tone changes, like deep down you know Scheer does not have what it takes....which one is it.

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

 

On one hand you seem confident that Justin's merry band of crooks are on the way out, but as soon as you mention Bernier your tone changes, like deep down you know Scheer does not have what it takes....which one is it.

I'm confident that voters are on a path to reject Trudeau, but Bernier is a real threat to the Conservatives. He can challenge Scheer for votes from the right and if Scheer fights back then he might lose swing voters to the Libs. He's making Scheer walk an extremely fine line.