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Canadian Armed Forces members linked to six hate groups: internal report

https://globalnews.ca/news/5322011/canadian-armed-forces-members-linked-to-six-hate-groups-internal-report/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Canadian Armed Forces members have been linked to six hate groups since 2013, according to an internal report that said the issue was damaging the military’s image.

The report by the Military Police Criminal Intelligence Section said 16 members of the armed forces and reserves had been associated with hate groups.

They were active in the Proud Boys, Atomwaffen Division, La Meute, Hammerskins Nation, III% and Soldiers of Odin, said the report obtained by Global News.

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But it said while 16 members of the armed forces had been linked to hate groups, and another 37 were alleged to have engaged in racist or hate-motivated conduct between 2013 and 2018, that represented only 0.1 per cent of the military population.

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Overall, the report found that 53 members had been singled out since January 2013, and 30 of them remained in the military. The total military population is 68,000 regular members and 27,000 reservists.

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It said that many racist groups were “paramilitary in nature,” and conducted weapons training and other exercises, making members of the military prized recruits.

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“Every single CAF member has a responsibility to act and report any instance of discriminatory conduct. Any complaint that is submitted is promptly reviewed and addressed,” she said.

The outcome could range from counseling, recorded warnings, or probation to a lowering of rank, release from the military or charges under the National Defence Act.

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Not a surprise, but a great concern given the paramilitary nature of some of those groups - ie, they are the seriously dangerous groups.

It doesn't appear that any further action is being taken.

 

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1 hour ago, jacee said:

Canadian Armed Forces members linked to six hate groups: internal report

https://globalnews.ca/news/5322011/canadian-armed-forces-members-linked-to-six-hate-groups-internal-report/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Canadian Armed Forces members have been linked to six hate groups since 2013, according to an internal report that said the issue was damaging the military’s image.

The report by the Military Police Criminal Intelligence Section said 16 members of the armed forces and reserves had been associated with hate groups.

They were active in the Proud Boys, Atomwaffen Division, La Meute, Hammerskins Nation, III% and Soldiers of Odin, said the report obtained by Global News.

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But it said while 16 members of the armed forces had been linked to hate groups, and another 37 were alleged to have engaged in racist or hate-motivated conduct between 2013 and 2018, that represented only 0.1 per cent of the military population.

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Overall, the report found that 53 members had been singled out since January 2013, and 30 of them remained in the military. The total military population is 68,000 regular members and 27,000 reservists.

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It said that many racist groups were “paramilitary in nature,” and conducted weapons training and other exercises, making members of the military prized recruits.

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“Every single CAF member has a responsibility to act and report any instance of discriminatory conduct. Any complaint that is submitted is promptly reviewed and addressed,” she said.

The outcome could range from counseling, recorded warnings, or probation to a lowering of rank, release from the military or charges under the National Defence Act.

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Not a surprise, but a great concern given the paramilitary nature of some of those groups - ie, they are the seriously dangerous groups.

It doesn't appear that any further action is being taken.

 

Racism is everywhere with you, eh? No doubt those people are not linked to any real hate groups at all. They most likely are just plain pro patriotic nationalists that have been given the title of racist and hatemongers by the leftist lying liberal media and their globalist handlers of being racists because the system fears them and what they may have to say and stand for. If one is white and a patriotic nationalist proud boy they are immediately labelled a racist or Nazi. Such utter bull chit. 

I am pretty sure that some in the armed forces are linked to some leftist socialist liberal intolerant and bigoted groups and that is even worse. But they get a free pass. They are supposed to be nice people. Chuckle-chuckle. I am called a racist just because I support and promote my own white people and race. There appears to be some fear in the globalist international communist establishment elite that fear anyone who is pro white. I will never understand as to why when people like me say that I am pro white that I am now supposed to be a racist.

I don't despise anybody, well, except for leftist liberals, communists, environmentalists, but that is it. :D And it does appear as though I am not alone these days. They are all getting their asses kicked out of politics. Ontario and Alberta just got rid of their three political party's mentioned above. They do not appear to be liked any more. I wonder why? Do you, jacee? 

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“At this time, given the extremely small number of CAF members identified as belonging to hate groups and/or being involved in possible hate-motivated incidents, hate groups do not pose any significant threat to the CAF/DND,” it concluded.

0.1 % of the population within the forces where tied to white supremacists/ racist groups "less than the general population within Canada"  out of 70,000 members ...

 

 

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1 hour ago, taxme said:

Racism is everywhere with you, eh? No doubt those people are not linked to any real hate groups at all. They most likely are just plain pro patriotic nationalists that have been given the title of racist and hatemongers by the leftist lying liberal media and their globalist handlers of being racists because the system fears them and what they may have to say and stand for. If one is white and a patriotic nationalist proud boy they are immediately labelled a racist or Nazi. Such utter bull chit. 

I am pretty sure that some in the armed forces are linked to some leftist socialist liberal intolerant and bigoted groups and that is even worse. But they get a free pass. They are supposed to be nice people. Chuckle-chuckle. I am called a racist just because I support and promote my own white people and race. There appears to be some fear in the globalist international communist establishment elite that fear anyone who is pro white. I will never understand as to why when people like me say that I am pro white that I am now supposed to be a racist.

I don't despise anybody, well, except for leftist liberals, communists, environmentalists, but that is it. :D And it does appear as though I am not alone these days. They are all getting their asses kicked out of politics. Ontario and Alberta just got rid of their three political party's mentioned above. They do not appear to be liked any more. I wonder why? Do you, jacee? 

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2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

 

“At this time, given the extremely small number of CAF members identified as belonging to hate groups and/or being involved in possible hate-motivated incidents, hate groups do not pose any significant threat to the CAF/DND,” it concluded.

0.1 % of the population within the forces where tied to white supremacists/ racist groups "less than the general population within Canada"  out of 70,000 members ...

 

 

0.1% eh?  Do we have a drawbridge we can raise? 

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13 minutes ago, jacee said:

Btw ... if folks want to out themselves as white supremacists on this thread, I'm down w dat. :D 

It is not about supremacy.  I am white but I would not think of myself as being superior to another race or nation.  I might get the occasional notion of being superior to another person (regardless of their race) based on their actions.

I think it has more to do with having a sense of belonging to a group or a nation.   

I was in Surrey last fall.  Had to spend 3 days at a hotel.  Those running the hotel were East Indians, that's fine.  I go to the gas station - East Indians, I walk along the street meeting mostly East Indians.  I see the Realtor's signs in front of a couple of properties - those had East Indian names and faces.   I see a nominate in the upcoming election - another East Indian.  I go to Subway to take a bite and sure enough it is East Indians inside.  While making my order I ask them if there is another restaurant down the road.  'An East Indian restaurant?"  - they ask me.

So what kind of integration do we expect and who is supposed to integrate to what and assimilate to what?  Those guys clearly integrated to their community.   But I do not feel I belong there.    That's about it.

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4 hours ago, cougar said:

So what kind of integration do we expect and who is supposed to integrate to what and assimilate to what?  Those guys clearly integrated to their community.   But I do not feel I belong there.    That's about it.

I feel like you've provided an even description of how you feel.  The idea of a homogenous population in a country, let alone a country the size of Canada isn't a real prospect and it hasn't been since the start.  Rest assured that in a generation or two there will be a melting of the cultures into a local culture and that's how it has always been.

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6 hours ago, cougar said:

I was in Surrey last fall.  Had to spend 3 days at a hotel.  Those running the hotel were East Indians, that's fine.  I go to the gas station - East Indians, I walk along the street meeting mostly East Indians.  I see the Realtor's signs in front of a couple of properties - those had East Indian names and faces.   I see a nominate in the upcoming election - another East Indian.  I go to Subway to take a bite and sure enough it is East Indians inside.  

ButI do not feel I belong there. 

I live and work in Surrey and am an "old-stock" Canadian woman.  I have neighbors who are Muslim, Columbian, East Indian, Japanese (I think) and white.  I work with people from all over the world, different ethnicities.  I feel like I belong here.  

I understand that lots of people are uncomfortable when they look around and do not see their own likeness reflected back at them in other faces.  My granddaughter is like that.  I don't know why I am comfortable with differences and others are not.  I suspect its something a person is born with and to change that instinctive response is not easy or even desired by most.  It must have served some purpose in the past, but I think that in the modern world it has become counterproductive and leads to conflict, violence and war.

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7 hours ago, jacee said:

Btw ... if folks want to out themselves as white supremacists on this thread, I'm down w dat. :D 

0.1%?  Wouldn't that be just one of their big toes, or something. 

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21 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I live and work in Surrey and am an "old-stock" Canadian woman.  I have neighbors who are Muslim, Columbian, East Indian, Japanese (I think) and white.  I work with people from all over the world, different ethnicities.  I feel like I belong here.  

I understand that lots of people are uncomfortable when they look around and do not see their own likeness reflected back at them in other faces.  My granddaughter is like that.  I don't know why I am comfortable with differences and others are not.  I suspect its something a person is born with and to change that instinctive response is not easy or even desired by most.  It must have served some purpose in the past, but I think that in the modern world it has become counterproductive and leads to conflict, violence and war.

Absolutely.  I grew up in Bradford, England and spent more time than that in Surrey BC.  The trick is not to be worried about how people look at all, to not actually care.

Edit>  Actually, I just counted up, and it was slightly less time.

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34 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

The trick is not to be worried about how people look at all, to not actually care.

Yeah, that is how I feel.  Admittedly I don't like going into stores and being ignored because I am white, any more than I like being ignored in high end stores because I don't look "rich" enough.  But thats probably better than being black and assumed to be a criminal and given too much attention.

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11 hours ago, bcsapper said:

0.1% eh?  Do we have a drawbridge we can raise? 

That's about it...   no doubt there are a few everywhere, but these are just attempts to try to prove that it's worse than what it really is, and these are the people we should 'really be afraid of'.  

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20 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Yeah, that is how I feel.  Admittedly I don't like going into stores and being ignored because I am white, any more than I like being ignored in high end stores because I don't look "rich" enough.  But thats probably better than being black and assumed to be a criminal and given too much attention.

Why does it matter the reason for discriminating against you?  You're still being treated as inferior, whether it's because you don't look rich or you look like a thief, it's all the same.  My guess is that your guilt gives permission to discriminate against you.  I used to deliver goods to Vancouver (mainly fish products), if you think that the Chinese or East Indians don't discriminate against white people, you're very naive.  I will suggest that a small group of Chinese fairs better in in white neighbourhood than a small group of whites does in a Chinese neighbourhood.

You must know that people on the left openly discriminate against people of the Christian faith.  There is a lot of discrimination towards the junkies and homeless, single moms on welfare, not to mention discrimination of those who drive PT Cruisers.  Do you know how a man gets treated when he enters a pool or arena area alone to watch his daughter swim or skate?  How often do you think a woman gets the third degree because he enters a school to pick up their kid?  Yes, women discriminate against men too. 

We all get discriminated against, it sucks.  You can choose to care or not about how people look at you, but that doesn't change the facts.

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4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I feel like you've provided an even description of how you feel.  The idea of a homogenous population in a country, let alone a country the size of Canada isn't a real prospect and it hasn't been since the start.  Rest assured that in a generation or two there will be a melting of the cultures into a local culture and that's how it has always been.

No, there wont be.  People separate into their own groups.  There is always a little overlap, but generally when the numbers are there, people prefer to live within their own culture.  

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16 hours ago, jacee said:

Read the article.


Another scary-scary story for the frightened lefties to tremble and shake and point accusing fingers at people over. Largely context-free, and with few facts as they usually are. It never, for example, identifies what 'linked to' means. It's used as if its a synonym for 'member of' but it's clearly not or it would say 'member of'. It also blithely calls groups like the Proud Boys and La Meute hate groups and white supremacist groups and racist groups despite them not being designated as such, and despite both being open to non-white members. It seems to use 'anti-immigration' interchangeably with 'white supremacist', which, given the low level of education and progressive zealotry of most members of the media is, I suppose, understandable.

Anyone with a shred of intelligence or awareness would dismiss it after the first sentence. "The interruption of an Indigenous protest by Canadian Armed Forces members representing the "Proud Boys" organization has many wondering who the "Proud Boys" are and what their presence means in Canada."

That incident has been gone into in detail before. All it was was a few of these guys celebrating Canada day, going from bar to bar. They happened upon the natives chanting and protesting and stopped to watch, then asked what was going on. That was basically it. Yet the frenzied left has, since that day, basically compared it to howling white supremacists attacking innocent natives with axes and scalping them while holding the scalps aloft and chanting Nazi slogans.

Basically fake news, written by progressives for progressives. Everyone else should just ignore it.

 

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I've noticed that children and youth of similar ages who attend public schools together develop their own shared culture. They think, act, talk, walk, play, work and laugh like each other, regardless of race, clothing, ethnicity, disability, religion, gender or gender identification or any other differences. They have each other's backs, they have spats, they have unwritten rules of conduct among themselves that exclude anyone who would try to divide them on visible differences. They speak up against adults to defend each other from discrimination: eg, a friendly store clerk who serves all the white kids first then turns into a cranky mean old fart with their friends of colour, treats them with suspicion,  as intruders rather than customers. Kids today are likely to confront that adult, report him to school authorities or even to a police officer if one's nearby. They know their rights - to live without discrimination against themselves or their peers - and their responsibilities - to take action to counter that discrimination. 

They respect and protect each other and their common kid culture FIRST. It happens every day. 

Two girls have a playground spat, grab at each other's hair, one got hold of a braid, the other got hold of some hair and a hijab. Somehow some unknown  idiot racist creep reports it to the media, and some idiot creep reporter sensationalized it in a report to the public implying a racial spat between an Indigenous kid and a Muslim kid, without verifying that at all. The two mothers speak up loudly and publicly with one voice: 'They were just being girls, arguing and grabbing at each other's hair.' The two girls think the reporter and the paper that published it are just "stupid".  Kids know that's just bad (adult) behaviour. In that case, the both the shared kid culture and the shared parent culture were much stronger than any cultural differences.

Love it! :)

The 'other' doesn't create the fear: The fear creates the 'other-ing'. Pre-existing generalized fear, anxiety and defensiveness underlie adult racism and white supremacy: childhood trauma is a strong common element among white supremacists, physical, sexual, emotional, psychological abuse and the resulting "toxic shame" of being "not good enough", and I would add, the need and search for social belonging, a 'tribe of their own', people grappling with the same unspoken traumas, focusing their anxieties on and blaming the 'others', and focusing on being 'supreme' at something, being 'supreme' at whiteness itself - the only thing about them that could not be destroyed by their trauma. If there is nothing else in themselves that they are proud of, at least they can share pride of whiteness itself.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/white-supremacists-respond-genetics-say-theyre-not-white

I'm not sympathetic to people who concentrate their underlying fears on racism and rage against the 'others': We are all responsible for dealing with our own traumas, without inflicting trauma on innocent bystanders, by choosing positive and constructive outlets for that angst. 'I couldn't help myself because I was abused as a child' doesn't cut it with me: You're an adult now and you are responsible for your own choices. 

But I do think it's important to recognize and respect how it arises. Unlike whiteness, the anxiety and fear is not genetic but arises from experience and can be mediated and perhaps remediated by new experiences in making personal connections with the 'others'. There's a point in therapeutic treatment of white supremacists where their defenses against the 'others' fall away ... and they fall apart because they are then facing within themselves the personal traumas underlying their fears and their generalized anxiety.

Well, I think that's enough from me for now. 

Stay tuned ... :)

 

 

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17 hours ago, Army Guy said:

 

“At this time, given the extremely small number of CAF members identified as belonging to hate groups and/or being involved in possible hate-motivated incidents, hate groups do not pose any significant threat to the CAF/DND,” it concluded.

0.1 % of the population within the forces where tied to white supremacists/ racist groups "less than the general population within Canada"  out of 70,000 members ...

 

 

So what if someone belongs to some racist group or whatever group they want too. It is nobody's business but theirs. Racism is alive and well and will always be around no matter how many people would like to see it disappear. If someone is a racist, I could care less. No doubt there are many pro liberal, NDP, communist, and maybe even an Islamic terrorist or two in the armed forces whom belong and support one of those political groups. I could care less. Again, it is nobody's business.

This racism nonsense has gone way out of hand, and the word racist only appears to be applied to white people only. This must end. 

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17 hours ago, jacee said:

Read the article.

You need to stop reading and listening to the lying leftist liberal Canadian media. You need to stop being so paranoid and thinking that there are racists and white supremacists all over the place in Canada by the hundreds of thousands. If there are racists in the armed forces, I could care less. If there are one or two, they can do no harm. You should concern yourself with more important things going on in Canada instead of getting yourself all worked up by the lying leftist liberal Canadian media who appears to always despise white people anyway, and always looks for an opportunity to attack white people over nothing. Let some white person say boo to a non-white person and the media will call that person a racist. But let some non-white say boo to a white person and the media will shrug it off as it was just a joke. The facts of life living in Canuckistan theses days. :rolleyes:

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The Canadian military is collapsing anyways,  let the SJW's fight over the rotting carcass, who cares?

Divest yourself of any emotional connection to this shambolic public sector totalitarian leftist boondoggle.

Don't bother to fill gabions for Justin Trudeau, let the SJW transgenders take a bullet for him instead.

Vive le Quebec libre.

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3 hours ago, jacee said:

I've noticed that children and youth of similar ages who attend public schools together develop their own shared culture. They think, act, talk, walk, play, work and laugh like each other, regardless of race, clothing, ethnicity, disability, religion, gender or gender identification or any other differences. They have each other's backs, they have spats, they have unwritten rules of conduct among themselves that exclude anyone who would try to divide them on visible differences. They speak up against adults to defend each other from discrimination: eg, a friendly store clerk who serves all the white kids first then turns into a cranky mean old fart with t

Blah-blah-blah. Yes, yes, the world will be one of peace and harmony once those old people die off.

Funny thing is that young people are showing skyrocketing rates of anxiety, depression and suicide. In a world where the Left has determinedly cut away all rules they feel adrift, without any idea what they're supposed to do or how they're supposed to act. Without any unifying cultural or religious identity they are slaves of their cell phones and social media, desperately seeking approval and affirmation as to their value through 'likes'. They are desperately emotionally fragile, and without a shared sense of identity.

The jobs we can predict are going to be in ever-increasing demand are those like therapists, psychologist and psychiatrist.

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40 minutes ago, taxme said:

So what if someone belongs to some racist group or whatever group they want too. It is nobody's business but theirs. Racism is alive and well and will always be around no matter how many people would like to see it disappear.

 

True....the most powerful racist groups by policy and action are governments themselves, with the force of law to keep it going (e.g. Indian Act, visible minorities, immigration, sterilization, incarceration, etc.).  

 

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10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The Canadian military is collapsing anyways,  let the SJW's fight over the rotting carcass, who cares?

Divest yourself of any emotional connection to this shambolic public sector totalitarian leftist boondoggle.

Don't bother to fill gabions for Justin Trudeau, let the SJW transgenders take a bullet for him instead.

Vive le Quebec libre.

Hmmm ... the thread is about white supremacists focused on racism, but I guess homophobia is part of the complex of the syndrome too. 

So ... you clearly despise Trudeau (because of the 'immigrants'? Or the gays?) but you'd be happy to shoot a transgender person to vent your rage at Trudeau. 

Or something like that. 

Can you clarify? 

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10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

True....the most powerful racist groups by policy and action are governments themselves, with the force of law to keep it going (e.g. Indian Act, visible minorities, immigration, sterilization, incarceration, etc.).  

 

So true. It is the politicians who are creating hatred and racism. Divide into groups and then conquer. That is what the leftist liberal politicians are very good at. Causing division and hatred and then sit back and watch and laugh at all of the chaos and mayhem that they have created. Massive 3rd world immigration and multiculturalism is starting to cause all this racism and hatred. Only leftist liberal SJW supporting dummies refuse to see it. Just saying.  

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