Why Canada is Great

[Alex Reese]

5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

We don't occupy anything this nation belongs to Canadians,

 

So, it is okay for me to go to your home, with a bunch of armed men and say "this property is mine now"?

 

5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

such as freedom of speech

 

 

Does that freedom of speech extend to this site or is it a "if I don't agree with you, I will ban you" kind of thing?

Edited June 16, 2019 by Alex Reese

[Queenmandy85]

9 hours ago, Alex Reese said:

 

So why are you complaining about immigrants?

It is a simple question of numbers. Canada's magnificent wilderness is being negatively impacted by population pressure. We need immigration but I would prefer that it be pegged at slightly less that replacement with priority given to refugees. It is all academic however. We are going to have hundreds of millions of climate refugees moving north from South America, Central America and the southern US. We should be focusing on how we are going to be able to accept them. 

[Michael Hardner]

30 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

1. It is a simple question of numbers. Canada's magnificent wilderness is being negatively impacted by population pressure.

2. We need immigration but I would prefer that it be pegged at slightly less that replacement with priority given to refugees.

3. It is all academic however. We are going to have hundreds of millions of climate refugees moving north from South America, Central America and the southern US. We should be focusing on how we are going to be able to accept them. 

1. How so ?  Do you mean our logging exports ?  Strip mining ?  Those would still decimate us if we had no immigration.

2. Why do we need it ?

3. Depressing thought.  

[Argus]

11 hours ago, Alex Reese said:

So, it is okay for me to go to your home, with a bunch of armed men and say "this property is mine now"?

Ridiculous narrative. We live within a  community. You can try but it will wind up getting you all shot - and no loss to the rest of us.
There was no broad community prior to the coming of Europeans. There were tiny, isolated tribes living in constant war with each other. Find a place a particular native group claims and chances are they murdered the people who sat on before them and took their land. That's how the world worked back then.

 

[Army Guy]

13 hours ago, Alex Reese said:

 

So, it is okay for me to go to your home, with a bunch of armed men and say "this property is mine now"?

 

 

 

Does that freedom of speech extend to this site or is it a "if I don't agree with you, I will ban you" kind of thing?

Do you need to though history 101 again, white European nations took this land be it through treaties, or by force either way it is now called the nation of Canada, where first nations people do own vast tracks of land within that nation, but like everyone else that livers within Canada if that land is required by the nation, it is either purchased or taken your chioce.

Now if you and a few of your armed fiends want to try and take what little property I have, your welcome to try....

As for free speech , say what ever you want here, as long as it is within the rules and laws...But I see your already suspended... 

[HeadLines]

On 6/14/2019 at 12:51 PM, taxme said:

I think that skydiving has to be the most ultimate experience and thrill of all things that one can do.  When one is skiing they can stop without seriously injuring or killing themselves. With skydiving one cannot stop in midair and one can only hope that the parachute opens. Lol. 

Canada has a real and true conservative leader. His name is Maxine Bernier of the People's Party of Canada. Scheer is just another liberal in conservative clothing. Of course Scheer has to be a lot better liberal than this prime mistake that we have running this country today. 

True enough. Osoyoos is quite a desert looking place alright. But I still prefer Arizona over Osoyoos, especially in the winter time. 

Canada can be great. But it is the liberals,socialists,communists,environmentalists and special minority interest groups with all of their communist programs and agendas that are making Canada worse off rather than better off. Canada needs a real and true conservative party and conservative leader to make Canada great again. Old man and young Trudeau have pretty much destroyed this once great WASP nation. Just my opinion of course. 

Have a good weekend also. 

So many labels, how do you keep it all straight?

 

[taxme]

23 hours ago, HeadLines said:

So many labels, how do you keep it all straight?

 

It's called getting your chit together. LOL. 

Edited June 17, 2019 by taxme

[taxme]

On 6/16/2019 at 7:21 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

It is a simple question of numbers. Canada's magnificent wilderness is being negatively impacted by population pressure. We need immigration but I would prefer that it be pegged at slightly less that replacement with priority given to refugees. It is all academic however. We are going to have hundreds of millions of climate refugees moving north from South America, Central America and the southern US. We should be focusing on how we are going to be able to accept them. 

Why should we accept any of those you mentioned? Why are the Canadian taxpayers not being consulted and asked as to whether they want millions of new refugees to come to Canada?They have no right to be here just because they may end up as climate refugees. Let them stay home and fix their own problems. Millions of new immigrants will ruin this country forever with the amount of garbage to our landfills alone will be massive beyond belief. Traffic gridlock. More infrastructure required, and more medical and social services needed. Canada will be finished off if we keep flooding this country with millions of refugees every year. Immigration is one of the biggest threats to Canada and Canadians. Hello out there, are you getting it yet? Probably not. 

Edited June 17, 2019 by taxme

[Queenmandy85]

When the wave of climate refugees surges north, we will not be able to stop them any more than the Romans could keep out climate refugees from northern Europe. 

[dialamah]

28 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

When the wave of climate refugees surges north, we will not be able to stop them any more than the Romans could keep out climate refugees from northern Europe. 

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

When the wave of climate refugees surges north, we will not be able to stop them any more than the Romans could keep out climate refugees from northern Europe. 

Methinks you're underestimating the capacity of industrial mass murder,

For example, the Nazis liquidated the equivalent of 20% of the entire population of the Roman Empire at its peak, in about 20 months. 

In the Great Leap Forward, the Chinese Communists liquidated the equivalent of 80% of the entire population of the Roman Empire, in about 40 months.

The Liberal Order is not going to survive the scale of catastrophe that you are invoking, adjust your calculations to take into account the ferocious extremism which would be unleashed by mass migration on the scale you are predicting, because you are in fact presaging the conditions for racialized total wars of annihilation.

The Holocaust was after all the indirect result of Jews fleeing Russia to seek sanctuary from the pogroms, refugees attempting to swamp militarized industrialized states in the throws of a global catastrophe would be signing their own death warrants, because of course, in the event of, the fangs are going to come out, it's not going to be lefty wefty bourgeois kumbaya, it's going to be the Nazis who end up in charge.

A more likely scenario, seems to me, would be that the approaches to the wealthy industrialized world will become free fire zones where anybody moving in there at all would be killed on sight by weaponized drones, some would make it through the gauntlet, but most would be killed in the attempt.

And of course, neither the Romans nor the Nazis were in possession of thermonuclear bombs, particularly neutron bombs which just kill people without producing any fallout.

Edited June 18, 2019 by Dougie93

[Argus]

20 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

When the wave of climate refugees surges north, we will not be able to stop them any more than the Romans could keep out climate refugees from northern Europe. 

We have machineguns now.

[Zeitgeist]

19 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Methinks you're underestimating the capacity of industrial mass murder,

For example, the Nazis liquidated the equivalent of 20% of the entire population of the Roman Empire at its peak, in about 20 months. 

In the Great Leap Forward, the Chinese Communists liquidated the equivalent of 80% of the entire population of the Roman Empire, in about 40 months.

The Liberal Order is not going to survive the scale of catastrophe that you are invoking, adjust your calculations to take into account the ferocious extremism which would be unleashed by mass migration on the scale you are predicting, because you are in fact presaging the conditions for racialized total wars of annihilation.

The Holocaust was after all the indirect result of Jews fleeing Russia to seek sanctuary from the pogroms, refugees attempting to swamp militarized industrialized states in the throws of a global catastrophe would be signing their own death warrants, because of course, in the event of, the fangs are going to come out, it's not going to be lefty wefty bourgeois kumbaya, it's going to be the Nazis who end up in charge.

A more likely scenario, seems to me, would be that the approaches to the wealthy industrialized world will become free fire zones where anybody moving in there at all would be killed on sight by weaponized drones, some would make it through the gauntlet, but most would be killed in the attempt.

And of course, neither the Romans nor the Nazis were in possession of thermonuclear bombs, particularly neutron bombs which just kill people without producing any fallout.

I think a drone/satellite controlled border is highly likely.  They won’t necessarily kill, but they’ll track illegals and dispatch law enforcement, who will charge, detain, and return to home country with no return papers. 

Edited June 18, 2019 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think a drone/satellite controlled border is highly likely.  They won’t necessarily kill, but they’ll track illegals and dispatch law enforcement, who will charge, detain, and return to home country with no return papers. 

In the event of unprecedented mass migration incited by global climate catastrophe, which is the scenario which was invoked, that would rapidly escalate to all out military force.

Even now NATO has begun to prepare for it in the Mediterranean, of course at this juncture they are there ostensibly to "rescue" migrants coming from Africa, but you know, NATO is not a search and rescue force, and not law enforcement neither,  in reality, they are already militarizing the approaches from the third world.

Edited June 18, 2019 by Dougie93

[jacee]

6 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think a drone/satellite controlled border is highly likely.  They won’t necessarily kill, but they’ll track illegals and dispatch law enforcement, who will charge, detain, and return to home country with no return papers. 

That won't stop the US climate refugees. We'll be swamped. 

[dialamah]

19 minutes ago, jacee said:

That won't stop the US climate refugees. We'll be swamped. 

Kinda like Germany a couple of years ago, at the height of the Syrian exodus.  Millions at our borders.  I expect it'll be chaotic, violent, barbaric and brutal.  Makes me hope the climate deniers are right, even as the local news announces third straight year of record breaking heat and massive forest fires anticipated.

[Zeitgeist]

39 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Kinda like Germany a couple of years ago, at the height of the Syrian exodus.  Millions at our borders.  I expect it'll be chaotic, violent, barbaric and brutal.  Makes me hope the climate deniers are right, even as the local news announces third straight year of record breaking heat and massive forest fires anticipated.

I’m writing sci-fi on this kind of scenario.  What happens when those with the means take refuge and deploy resources to protect themselves from a displaced economically ravaged population?  This is why we need global solutions.  International rules and standards, not just on emissions and the usual suspects of labour and human rights, but land use planning and settlement, will be essential.  Imagine networks of modern steel, glass, wood, stone, brick, and concrete cities and towns with light carbon footprints in forests.  

It will be a different way of life with a share economy and more communal living.  The public and private spaces will be more interesting though, because of the premium on space, and hopefully people will feel more connected.  Isolation and exclusion are the source of many of our problems.  It sounds a bit commie, but I can see some kind of basic income or living standard coming our way at some point.  Eliminate poverty and take care of the basics so people can do as they like without worrying where the next cheque will come from.  For those who want to make a ton of money and have more private space or stuff, they can take on the added responsibilities and more technical or creative work.  

In the long run, it will be a globalist takeover, but by consent.  If we manage the transition well, no one is going to take your stuff or invade your territory.  The society is already managed.  Our economic system is a Breton Woods construct, as is our social safety net.  We just have to make it seem as free enterprising as possible, as was done in 2008 with the bailout and quantitative easing.  There will be costs and setbacks along the way: disaster relief, resettlement, militarizations, anti-immigration, conservative/leftist/green extremism, and so forth, but the overall trend will be progress, I think.  

Edited June 19, 2019 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

Kinda like Germany a couple of years ago, at the height of the Syrian exodus.  Millions at our borders.  I expect it'll be chaotic, violent, barbaric and brutal.  Makes me hope the climate deniers are right, even as the local news announces third straight year of record breaking heat and massive forest fires anticipated.

Check out Ross Mckitrick from Guelph University, it's not a question of denial, it's a question of a) ZOMG carbon is a Red Herring,  and b) there's no actual evidence that the warming is just going to increase exponentially, both of those claims have been debunked, the entrenched interest Climate Mob is simply bullying anyone who points out that they are full of shit and/or the media is afraid of the Climate Mob too, so they don't report anything other than the orthodox leftist dogma.

Climate Doom is just a convenient rubric for the leftists to impose what they've wanted all along, which is massive centrally planned solutions to everything, and it's really all they've got,  since their economic dogma has long ago been discredited, so they are all in for Climate Doom and as a result must attack any questioning of it as heresy.

The Climate Mob left is like the Catholic Church from the middle ages and any scientist who questions the religion is Galileo.

Edited June 19, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

On the bright side, and typical of all screeching hysterical leftist bum rushes, it's not actually working.

The left wing media is totally under control, but the masses hate the media and do not trust them.

They've managed to bully people into silence, but the polling indicates that despite not wanting to be attacked, people are still not buying what the Climate Mob is selling.

The issue remains so low on voters actual list of priorities, even the Ontario Liberals are breaking ranks now, they know Climate Mobbing is starting to backfire so they want to run on the economy now and ditch the Climate dogma as central to their platform.

Edited June 19, 2019 by Dougie93

[Queenmandy85]

The idea of resisting a mass migration north with lethal force is Stalinist. Some of you seem to be very cavalier with other people's lives. What makes Canada great is generosity and compassion. Since we (northern Europe, and the northern half of North America) have greatly participated in creating this problem,  it is incumbent on us to help those who will otherwise die. I pray I am wrong about climate change (but physics and chemistry have demonstrated a phenomenal index of predictability), but I pray we would have the human capacity to do what is right should a mass migration occur.

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

The idea of resisting a mass migration north with lethal force is Stalinist. Some of you seem to be very cavalier with other people's lives. What makes Canada great is generosity and compassion. Since we (northern Europe, and the northern half of North America) have greatly participated in creating this problem,  it is incumbent on us to help those who will otherwise die. I pray I am wrong about climate change (but physics and chemistry have demonstrated a phenomenal index of predictability), but I pray we would have the human capacity to do what is right should a mass migration occur.

We will.  It should be a controlled flow and not only to Canada.  Countries will have to have something like percentage quotas of refugees to accept.   Canada has lots of space, but we have to find ways to target immigration outside of the southern cities to unlock our resources and prevent shortages of housing and services.  

[jacee]

58 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

We will.  It should be a controlled flow and not only to Canada.  Countries will have to have something like percentage quotas of refugees to accept.   Canada has lots of space, but we have to find ways to target immigration outside of the southern cities to unlock our resources and prevent shortages of housing and services.  

"Unlock our resources" ?

 

[taxme]

On 6/15/2019 at 9:08 PM, HeadLines said:

The Raptors.

 

Don't forget that all the players on the Raptors are all Americans. So the Americans did win the championship. They just won it in Canada. 

[taxme]

On 6/17/2019 at 5:45 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

When the wave of climate refugees surges north, we will not be able to stop them any more than the Romans could keep out climate refugees from northern Europe. 

Those climate refugees can be stopped at the border with no problem at all. All it takes is the will power by we the people to want to stop them. But we have a problem called politicians who who seem to not want to protect our Canadian borders from being invaded by illegal so called refugee criminals. All is needed is the will power to do something about it instead of just sitting on their azzes and throwing up their hands in the air and looking so bewildered. 

I did not know that the Romans had a problem with "climate refugees" coming from Northern Europe? Was it that cold in Northern Europe at the time? Just asking. 

[taxme]

14 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

On the bright side, and typical of all screeching hysterical leftist bum rushes, it's not actually working.

The left wing media is totally under control, but the masses hate the media and do not trust them.

They've managed to bully people into silence, but the polling indicates that despite not wanting to be attacked, people are still not buying what the Climate Mob is selling.

The issue remains so low on voters actual list of priorities, even the Ontario Liberals are breaking ranks now, they know Climate Mobbing is starting to backfire so they want to run on the economy now and ditch the Climate dogma as central to their platform.

But if the Ontario liberals did by chance won the next election they would go right back to their CDS(climate derangement syndrome)bull chit once again. Liberals like socialists are very good at lying. They live off of spreading fear and bull chit. That is why I like to call the liberals lieberals. They are never to be trusted at all. Only fools will listen to those lieberal liars.