OftenWrong Posted February 9, 2019 Report Posted February 9, 2019 9 hours ago, eyeball said: Don't you think the keep-our-mouths-shut plan should also extend to provocateurs, especially when they're also responsible for Canada's governance? Surely it must warm the heart of China's government to see us going out of our way to divide ourselves. I do not advocate keeping our mouths shut, just that stupid people should do so. Intelligent people who have something useful to contribute to the problem should be allowed to speak out. People who understand diplomacy, and know the Chinese. I gave McCallum as an example. Quote I'm pretty sure opposition politicians also take an oath to serve Canada and I wonder how much harm they do to Canada's position by acting like a bunch of school yard kids taunting a bullies victim. Do you remember them in school? I don't know about anyone else but I always regarded them as being just as twisted and wrong as the bully. Remember the bullies? Why yes. In fact, I was one. We used to go out to the yard at recess and seek out pencil-necked leftists, and give them their daily thrashing. Yeah, those were the days... Seriously though, it seems like you are looking to excuse the Liberals with this comment and cast blame on the Cons, yet you are ignoring the fact that Mr. Trudeau has a majority. He is running the show. The opposition can only yammer and wail, and roll their eyes while the Liberals runs the country into the ground. Quote How does provoking Trudeau help exactly? He doesn't need to be provoked, he's a fool all on his own. But anything that helps to get rid of him as soon as possible is good. Trust I have answered all your questions clearly Quote
PIK Posted February 9, 2019 Report Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) Scheer is not trudeau. Scheer does not need to stand up and yell. Just let trudeau do all the talking. And keep his powder dry until the election. Any good idea will be stolen by the liberals anyways. And scheers bench is alot stronger than anything trudeau has. When you are picked for gender and skin colour ,you do not get the best. Edited February 9, 2019 by PIK 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Nefarious Banana Posted February 9, 2019 Report Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, PIK said: Scheer is not Trudeau. Scheer does not need to stand up and yell. Just let Trudeau do all the talking, and keep his powder dry until the election. Any good idea will be stolen by the Liberals anyway. Scheer's bench is a lot stronger than anything Trudeau has. When you are picked for gender and skin colour, you do not get the best. Jody Wilson-Raybould is damaged goods . . . . she and Trudeau had no business publicly 'dissing' the judgement in the Bouchie case. Hoping the rest of the country can see how much damage that entitled doofus in Ottawa has done to this country. Also want to see this latest fiasco sink the Liberals. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/8/2019 at 6:25 PM, OftenWrong said: I do not advocate keeping our mouths shut, just that stupid people should do so. Intelligent people who have something useful to contribute to the problem should be allowed to speak out. People who understand diplomacy, and know the Chinese. I gave McCallum as an example. I supported McCallum speaking up too. Quote Remember the bullies? Why yes. In fact, I was one. We used to go out to the yard at recess and seek out pencil-necked leftists, and give them their daily thrashing. Yeah, those were the days... The Hell's Angles provided security at my school, they simply told us how to take care of ourselves - use whatever's at hand a bat, a brick, a shovel...don't fuck around. Seriously. Quote Seriously though, it seems like you are looking to excuse the Liberals with this comment and cast blame on the Cons, yet you are ignoring the fact that Mr. Trudeau has a majority. He is running the show. The opposition can only yammer and wail, and roll their eyes while the Liberals runs the country into the ground. Excuse the Liberals? No, I'm with McCallum, they should be shooting their mouths off at both China and the US. If I had anything to say about it I'd swap Meng for China's Canadian hostages (I'm afraid the drug dealer is on his own) and then tell them and the US that virtue trumps the economy and start applying sanctions appropriately. Quote He doesn't need to be provoked, he's a fool all on his own. But anything that helps to get rid of him as soon as possible is good. Trust I have answered all your questions clearly I still haven't heard a single word about what Conservatives would do differently than the Liberals. If I was a Conservative I'd start by reminding Canadians that our grandparents sacrificed some 25% of their GDP in their struggle against tyranny. Like the chicken-shit Liberals though I suspect Conservatives will likewise tremulously remind us that 25% of our GDP depends on tyranny now. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Excuse the Liberals? No, I'm with McCallum, they should be shooting their mouths off at both China and the US. If I had anything to say about it I'd swap Meng for China's Canadian hostages (I'm afraid the drug dealer is on his own) and then tell them and the US that virtue trumps the economy and start applying sanctions appropriately. You're saying Canada needs its own strong-man. I agree, it is necessary in order to properly defend ourselves. But I don't see that person anywhere in the current political spectrum of rich people's kids who now run this country. Quote I still haven't heard a single word about what Conservatives would do differently than the Liberals. If I was a Conservative I'd start by reminding Canadians that our grandparents sacrificed some 25% of their GDP in their struggle against tyranny. Like the chicken-shit Liberals though I suspect Conservatives will likewise tremulously remind us that 25% of our GDP depends on tyranny now. Maybe it is not so much a partisan issue as it is about actual leadership capability. In a crisis, it comes down to the personal character, vision and communicating skills of the leader. We have no real leaders at the moment, left or right. Just a bunch of fancy lawyers and businessmen. Quote
eyeball Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: You're saying Canada needs its own strong-man. I agree, it is necessary in order to properly defend ourselves. But I don't see that person anywhere in the current political spectrum of rich people's kids who now run this country. We just need a principled person whose good at articulating why principles matter. Unfortunately I don't see that person having much affect on Canadians - maybe we've become so used to how Canada is run we've sunk to the level of the people running it. I subscribe to a trickle down theory of decency and virtue and as such its clear why ordinary Canadians are displaying a greater deficiency of these. Quote Maybe it is not so much a partisan issue as it is about actual leadership capability. In a crisis, it comes down to the personal character, vision and communicating skills of the leader. We have no real leaders at the moment, left or right. Just a bunch of fancy lawyers and businessmen. No, its simply about character and in Canada's case a lack thereof. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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