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15 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

The tariffs the USA is putting on other nations will have harmful effects on you as a person.  The Media also told me that Obama was a great president. I disagree.  Some of what Trump is doing I like, and some of it is outright retarded.

You and me are nothing more than tiny little farts in a hurricane. Anything the globalist elites do to us will be nothing new. They have been screwing the world for decades now. Government involvement in trade and tariffs is there to please and serve the globalist elite. A dozen or so globalist corporation elite families run and rule the world. So far whatever Trump is doing works for me. :)

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3 minutes ago, Wilber said:

I only have to listen to what comes out of Trump's mouth and what he does to form an opinion of him. He's a pig. 

The pigs are leftist liberals who hate Trump who is kicking their useless and lazy communist asses big time. While Trump tries to make America great again that ilk that you appear to support wants to bring America down and want to turn America into a not so wonderful Stalinist kind of communist country. Smart people will never listen and agree with leftist liberal people like you. You are nothing more than a bunch of crybaby snowflake losers who have nothing to offer the world but chaos and havoc. Go, Trump, go. :P 

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I think many Canadians think Canada is the greatest country on Earth.  I know I do.  We don’t say it or run around shouting, “Canada Canada Canada” because politeness and modesty are Canadian values.  It’s fine to be proud of your country to a point, but you should really only be proud of what you contribute, not what has been given to you or what you’ve been born into.  Grateful, yes.  People matter more than countries anyway.  We’re blessed to live here.  It’s what you do with what you’ve been given that counts. 

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On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 3:47 PM, romeoromeo said:

Based on Pewresearch, less than 50% of Canadians has a positive view of America.... if that's so why hasn't Canada severed its ties with America yet?

 

"Oh I hate you and I've got a lot of complaints about you but I might need you so I'll stick with you."

 

Doesn't that make Canadians hypocrites?

 

I don't understand, can somebody please make me understand....

You clearly are not married.

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4 hours ago, taxme said:

You and me are nothing more than tiny little farts in a hurricane.

I note you directed the above comment at Ghost. I totally agree with you. Who says I never do.

 

On a more serious note. You often respond claiming a global elite runs the world and everyone is a pawn in it.  That is your belief. It reflects your feeling

of impotency or insignificance or powerlessness.

 

Miracles are being performed every day by people making a difference. The fact you are not aware of them does not mean they do  not exist. Everyday there are doctors, teachers, other professionals helping sew the seeds of positive consequences. Miracles start with basic acts, the smallest and simplest of acts that give, expecting nothing in return.

 

From the sounds of it you can't conceive of such concepts.

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4 hours ago, taxme said:

The pigs are leftist liberals who hate Trump who is kicking their useless and lazy communist asses big time.

You are nothing more than a bunch of crybaby snowflake losers who have nothing to offer the world but chaos and havoc. Go, Trump, go. :P 

There are people of every political persuasion and belief that disagree with Trump's behaviour and some or many of his comments, policies. I do note you switched from labelling anyone who disagrees with Trump a pig  leftist liberal to communist crybaby snowflake losers. That provides powerful insight and analysis not to mention an explanation as to why some Jews don't eat leftist liberals.

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On 11/10/2018 at 10:57 PM, DogOnPorch said:

Many Canadians have strong ties to the USA via family...simple as that. 

Who has family on both sides of the border? 

I bet you do. I'm a bettin' man...

You're absolutely correct about this. In addition to two siblings who live and work in the U.S., I have relatives on both my mother's and father's side of the family who live there. In fact, my mother, an American, met my father when she was visiting relatives who lived in Canada. Familial links between the two countries are extensive. I think a lot of the negativity Canadians have about U.S. policy emerges when Canadians believe that the U.S. fails to recognize and/or respect Canadian interests, as has been the case with Trump's tariff wars. Because the U.S. is economically much more important to Canada than Canada is to it, there's often very little apparent emotional reciprocity in the relationship. The irony in the situation is that Canadians often want to be treated as in a special relationship with the U.S. while at the same time wanting to boldly assert our sovereignty vis-a-vis our giant neighbour. The real world just doesn't work this way. But our periodic animosity eventually fades as political leadership changes south of the border.

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18 hours ago, Rue said:

I note you directed the above comment at Ghost. I totally agree with you. Who says I never do.

 

On a more serious note. You often respond claiming a global elite runs the world and everyone is a pawn in it.  That is your belief. It reflects your feeling

of impotency or insignificance or powerlessness.

 

Miracles are being performed every day by people making a difference. The fact you are not aware of them does not mean they do  not exist. Everyday there are doctors, teachers, other professionals helping sew the seeds of positive consequences. Miracles start with basic acts, the smallest and simplest of acts that give, expecting nothing in return.

 

From the sounds of it you can't conceive of such concepts.

I have a terrible time of believing that they are not conspiracies going on in this miracle world of yours. There have been many great people who have invented or created many great things for mankind. Oh sorry, people kind. LOL. For example like a cure for many diseases like cancer and being able to run our vehicles on water or very cheap hydro power. Those people who have invented such great ideas have been either bought off so their inventions never get to see the light of day or if they cannot be bought off then they are eliminated. There is nothing created or invented that will be allowed to proceed with those inventions as long as they get the approval of the globalist international bankster elites who then can control and make a buck from it otherwise it will never go anywhere. Believe it or not. 

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22 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think many Canadians think Canada is the greatest country on Earth.  I know I do.  We don’t say it or run around shouting, “Canada Canada Canada” because politeness and modesty are Canadian values.  It’s fine to be proud of your country to a point, but you should really only be proud of what you contribute, not what has been given to you or what you’ve been born into.  Grateful, yes.  People matter more than countries anyway.  We’re blessed to live here.  It’s what you do with what you’ve been given that counts. 

 

18 hours ago, Rue said:

There are people of every political persuasion and belief that disagree with Trump's behaviour and some or many of his comments, policies. I do note you switched from labelling anyone who disagrees with Trump a pig  leftist liberal to communist crybaby snowflake losers. That provides powerful insight and analysis not to mention an explanation as to why some Jews don't eat leftist liberals.

Ever since Trump was elected as President the leftist liberal democratic pigs have not let up once on their constant mocking and attacks on Trump from day one. I keep hearing that Trump is supposed to be a racist, hates woman, and hates immigrants but yet none of those liars mentioned above can find anywhere where Trump has said anything of that sort. The leftist liberal fake and lying pig media has and will continue to attack Trump every day until the next election where they will then lose again to Trump and then start up once more with their childish snowflake mocking and attacking of Trump all over again. It's alright to disagree with Trump but let it go. They lost the election and they should quit with their whining and crying about Trump and what he is doing. So far I have not seen or heard one thing from Trump that should have anyone getting their underwear all wet. The only ones that are really getting hurt here are the swampsters and their supporters. That should be a good thing, right? But there are many Jews who like to eat conservatives. Eating leftist liberals will really give anyone a big bad tummy ache. :D

This reply was not meant for Zeitgeist although he can chip in if he wants too.  

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4 hours ago, turningrite said:

You're absolutely correct about this. In addition to two siblings who live and work in the U.S., I have relatives on both my mother's and father's side of the family who live there. In fact, my mother, an American, met my father when she was visiting relatives who lived in Canada. Familial links between the two countries are extensive. I think a lot of the negativity Canadians have about U.S. policy emerges when Canadians believe that the U.S. fails to recognize and/or respect Canadian interests, as has been the case with Trump's tariff wars. Because the U.S. is economically much more important to Canada than Canada is to it, there's often very little apparent emotional reciprocity in the relationship. The irony in the situation is that Canadians often want to be treated as in a special relationship with the U.S. while at the same time wanting to boldly assert our sovereignty vis-a-vis our giant neighbour. The real world just doesn't work this way. But our periodic animosity eventually fades as political leadership changes south of the border.

Even though I don't have relatives south of the border, I have some good American friends and many former American work mates. It is a complex relationship that can't be put on either or terms. We have never liked everything about each other and never will, our relationship will always have its ups and downs.

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Just now, Wilber said:

Even though I don't have relatives south of the border, I have some good American friends and many former American work mates. It is a complex relationship that can't be put on either or terms. We have never liked everything about each other and never will, our relationship will always have its ups and downs.

I think Canadians often expect more from the relationship than do Americans.

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4 hours ago, turningrite said:

You're absolutely correct about this. In addition to two siblings who live and work in the U.S., I have relatives on both my mother's and father's side of the family who live there. In fact, my mother, an American, met my father when she was visiting relatives who lived in Canada. Familial links between the two countries are extensive. I think a lot of the negativity Canadians have about U.S. policy emerges when Canadians believe that the U.S. fails to recognize and/or respect Canadian interests, as has been the case with Trump's tariff wars. Because the U.S. is economically much more important to Canada than Canada is to it, there's often very little apparent emotional reciprocity in the relationship. The irony in the situation is that Canadians often want to be treated as in a special relationship with the U.S. while at the same time wanting to boldly assert our sovereignty vis-a-vis our giant neighbour. The real world just doesn't work this way. But our periodic animosity eventually fades as political leadership changes south of the border.

It is my opinion that most Canadians must of an inferiority complex and are just jealous of Americans if some Canadians dislike America that much. At least the Americans cheer and shout out loud that they are proud to be American and have no problem waving the American flag. Canadians, as one member said here, are too passive and to polite to want to get up and shout Canada-Canada-Canada. It's not the Canadian way. So sad. Sports games are the only time when we see Canadians actually lose their polite and passiveness and actually do act like Americans with their cheering and shouting.

But I also blame our leftist liberal Canadian media party's for Canadians many reasons for despising Americans as much as they do because of their constant mocking and attacks on America. If it were not for the medias negativity there would be no Canadian having a bad word to say about America. Everyone I know hates Trump. When asked why they cannot come up with a sane reason. Just emotional babble. Yet those same people have no problem going down to the states for their shopping and vacationing. Duh. Sometimes I think that most Canadians are pretty much screwed up in the head. They don't know what the hell they want. If Canadians feel that they are not paid enough attention to by the Americans well then it must have something to do with our Canadian attitudes. Try harder to get noticed then. Canadians have to realize that the Americans are the elephant and the Canadians are the mouse in the jungle. Yup, for sure. The only time the Canadian media and Canadians themselves are contented with America always will depend on what political party is in power. When the democrats are in power there is peace among the neighbors. But when the republicans are in power, the Canadian media and Canadians themselves start throwing rocks at them. Aw well. 

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1 minute ago, Wilber said:

Mexico has almost 4 times Canada's population and most of it lives a long way from the US border. 

 

The U.S. has a long history with Mexico, with more geographic and population impact than Canada historically, but Canada seeks more recognition and attention.

Mexicans are more secure in their identity and culture without being "not Americans".

 

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5 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Even though I don't have relatives south of the border, I have some good American friends and many former American work mates. It is a complex relationship that can't be put on either or terms. We have never liked everything about each other and never will, our relationship will always have its ups and downs.

Why can we not always like each other? As far as I am concerned the only reason why there is sometimes great animosity between the both of us is because of our leftist liberal Canadian media who when the Americans elect a republican president they go bonkers on it and start attacking that president forever. When a democrat is president we hardly hear from the Canadian media saying anything hardly negative about their democratic president from the likes of the CBC. Obama was the Canadian medias darling. The Canadian leftist liberal media is the shit disturber here and not the Americans. 

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7 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Mexico has almost 4 times Canada's population and most of it lives a long way from the US border. 

Well one would find that hard to believe when there are tens of thousands who cross into America every day from Mexico. It would appear as though there is 1 times of Mexicans living close to the American border. Is that clear enough for you? 

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Just now, taxme said:

Well one would find that hard to believe when there are tens of thousands who cross into America every day from Mexico. It would appear as though there is 1 times of Mexicans living close to the American border. Is that clear to you? 

 

Indeed, a large part of the southwestern USA was part of Mexico at one time.

Canada is only about 8% of North America's population.

 

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3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The U.S. has a long history with Mexico, with more geographic and population impact than Canada historically, but Canada seeks more recognition and attention.

Mexicans are more secure in their identity and culture without being "not Americans".

 

From my experience I have never seen Canadians get all that thrilled and excited about being Canadian as much as I see Americans do get excited over being American. I think that many Canadians have an inferior complex about themselves and they have a tough time trying to express their joys of being Canadian. Just from my observations. 

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5 minutes ago, taxme said:

Why can we not always like each other?

 

Because Canada's size and economic dependence breeds resentment for U.S. politics and policies that impact Canada with very little say in such matters.

Canada likes to pick and choose what it likes (and hates) about America.    Doesn't work that way....take the good with the bad...or seek true love elsewhere.

 

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1 minute ago, taxme said:

From my experience I have never seen Canadians get all that thrilled and excited about being Canadian as much as I see Americans do get excited over being American. I think that many Canadians have an inferior complex about themselves and they have a tough time trying to express their joys of being Canadian. Just from my observations. 

 

That's the crazy part....being not-American also means not celebrating patriotism and nationalism....or they would be just like Americans.   Can't have that !

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28 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well one would find that hard to believe when there are tens of thousands who cross into America every day from Mexico. It would appear as though there is 1 times of Mexicans living close to the American border. Is that clear enough for you? 

You could have all of Canada's population along the US Mexico border and there would still be over 90 million Mexicans left. Ever look at a map?

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35 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That's the crazy part....being not-American also means not celebrating patriotism and nationalism....or they would be just like Americans.   Can't have that !

Them dar words patriotism and nationalism are fighting words here in Canada. All Canadians have to think and act like sheeple liberals and socialists to appear to be patriotic and nationalists. To want to fight and save what once was a great nation is considered a treasonous act here in Canada. How can anyone believe that if someone calls themselves a nationalist that they must be a member of the KKK. That is the logic of the leftist liberals that run this country. Maybe Canadians should take the time to look up as to what nationalism means. But that would mean having to think for yourself something the liberal/socialists in Canada do not want Canadians to be doing? Actually thinking for themselves. Very dangerous for them traitors.

What Canada needs is more patriots and more nationalists and maybe Canada would not find itself in the hell hole that it is in. Liberalism/socialism/communism destroys all things decent and moral and patriotic and nationalist. "Can"t have that", is right. :(

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