bush_cheney2004 Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) Failing Canadian banks had to borrow a lot more than Trump from the U.S. Fed....BILLION$. Edited August 7, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, kactus said: Deutsche Bank was one of them that loaned money to Trump Trumps conflicts in plain sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 hours ago, Argus said: Yeah, you really want a guy whose casinos went bankrupt shortly after they opened gambling with your economy. His casinos went bankrupt? Only a true genius would do that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 13 hours ago, OftenWrong said: His casinos went bankrupt? Only a true genius would do that... Trump is not a businessman. He just played one on television . Any real businessman would have done market studies, figured out if there was demand for new casinos, figured out what it would cost to build and run them, vs expected income. This is absolute rock bottom BASIC stuff. Trump did none of it. He built grand palaces without regard to cost or whether the market could support them and with no idea what he might pull in vs what he'd have to pay out. When a local business magazine had an analyst run the numbers, it was clear the casinos couldn't survive - before they even opened. When they printed it Trump threatened to sue them out of business unless they apologized and admitted they were wrong. They were willing to apologize, but the analyst refused to publicly recant. He was fired (and sued Trump and the magazine, getting a big settlement) and a few months after he casinos opened everything he said would happen happened. Once October set in they became huge abandoned buildings. You could fire a cannon through those casinos and hit nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Argus said: Trump is not a businessman. Really ? Trump has made a lot more money than a certain drama teacher in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Argus said: Trump is not a businessman. He just played one on television . Any real businessman would have done market studies, figured out if there was demand for new casinos, figured out what it would cost to build and run them, vs expected income. This is absolute rock bottom BASIC stuff. Trump did none of it. He built grand palaces without regard to cost or whether the market could support them and with no idea what he might pull in vs what he'd have to pay out. When a local business magazine had an analyst run the numbers, it was clear the casinos couldn't survive - before they even opened. When they printed it Trump threatened to sue them out of business unless they apologized and admitted they were wrong. They were willing to apologize, but the analyst refused to publicly recant. He was fired (and sued Trump and the magazine, getting a big settlement) and a few months after he casinos opened everything he said would happen happened. Once October set in they became huge abandoned buildings. You could fire a cannon through those casinos and hit nothing. Trouble with Trump is that he uses his power as a president for his personal gain. That’s a conflict of interest.... If/ when the house of senate is taken by democrats there will be alot more scrutiny over Muller’s case and Trump’s business dealings with Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 9:11 PM, kactus said: Trouble with Trump is that he uses his power as a president for his personal gain. That’s a conflict of interest.... If/ when the house of senate is taken by democrats there will be alot more scrutiny over Muller’s case and Trump’s business dealings with Russia. So here we are at the end of the Russian gate hunt with nothing to show for it except financial fraud by two former trump associate. It all started with Russia and now it ends with white collar crime that has nothing to do with Russia. Ya lost the 2016 election fair and square, just get over it and and move on. We didn't elect trump because he was an upstanding human being, we elected him because this garbage heap of a person was the only one standing up for middle america. You can thank the elitist liberals for the loss in 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, paxamericana said: 1. So here we are at the end of the Russian gate hunt with nothing to show for it except financial fraud by two former trump associate. It all started with Russia and now it ends with white collar crime that has nothing to do with Russia. 2. Ya lost the 2016 election fair and square, just get over it and and move on. 3. We didn't elect trump because he was an upstanding human being, we elected him because this garbage heap of a person was the only one standing up for middle america. 4. You can thank the elitist liberals for the loss in 2016. 1. The investigation is still ongoing. Do you think that the fact that they found a second class of crimes helps Trump somehow ? There's so much corruption here. He pretty clearly lied about paying off the porn star. Any other president would have been destroyed by that scandal alone but Trump crying conspiracy gets his minions to support him somehow. 2. Will do, once the investigation is done. 3. Yes, and he promised to deliver better and cheaper healthcare. Instead we get him hosting rallies where he boasts about himself for an hour. Why does middle America buy this shit ? 4. Well, yes. They lost so we 'thank' them... I guess. If middle America would prefer a shitty stand-up comic president over ACA then they got what they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) On 8/8/2018 at 10:11 PM, kactus said: Trouble with Trump is that he uses his power as a president for his personal gain. That’s a conflict of interest.... He's a huckster who is using the tool called 'The Big Lie' better than LBJ or the Nazis ever did. (LBJ talked about using it and did so effectively in his 2nd campaign for Texas senator, in case that's confusing.) Edited August 23, 2018 by Michael Hardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. The investigation is still ongoing. Do you think that the fact that they found a second class of crimes helps Trump somehow ? There's so much corruption here. He pretty clearly lied about paying off the porn star. Any other president would have been destroyed by that scandal alone but Trump crying conspiracy gets his minions to support him somehow. 2. Will do, once the investigation is done. 3. Yes, and he promised to deliver better and cheaper healthcare. Instead we get him hosting rallies where he boasts about himself for an hour. Why does middle America buy this shit ? 4. Well, yes. They lost so we 'thank' them... I guess. If middle America would prefer a shitty stand-up comic president over ACA then they got what they wanted. 1) might i remind you the purpose of the investigation is to find russian collusion. Also hush money paid to pornstar before he became president is corruption?? Campaign Finance violation maybe (that's a huge maybe) but corruption before he held public office? You're drinking too much of that fake news. Read this article on cnn it describe how similar case played out in court. If campaing finance law was violated, there is no legal difference between paying hush money to "affect an election" than actual finance violation bernie sanders and obama was fined for. Campaign finance violation is campaign violation, doesn't care what extra-marital purpose it was used for. Hilariously because of the dual use nature of trump's payment it can be legally argued that it is infact not campaign finance violation. https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/08/22/opinions/trump-critics-too-soon-to-rejoice-callan/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F 2) if russia was involved you'd figured it would have been the first thing to break headlines not the last....keep waiting. 3)uh this wasn't due to a lack of tries. he tried but the democrats were the one who wouldn't budge on repealing obamacare for a new proposal. Obamacare is full of problem even bernie sanders admitted as such. 4) because our other option is elitist globalist crooked hillary who pretty much is the establishment candidate of the status quo? Someone new who says naughty things but has good policy or a real crook who meant more of the same injustice.... Edited August 23, 2018 by paxamericana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 3. Yes, and he promised to deliver better and cheaper healthcare. Instead we get him hosting rallies where he boasts about himself for an hour. Why does middle America buy this shit ? Because Trump did make health care better....there is no more ACA income tax penalty for those who do not have health insurance. The government is not required to provide health care...it is not a right of citizenship...not even in Canada. Edited August 23, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 12 hours ago, paxamericana said: 1) might i remind you the purpose of the investigation is to find russian collusion. 2) Also hush money paid to pornstar before he became president is corruption?? 3) Campaign Finance violation maybe (that's a huge maybe) but corruption before he held public office? You're drinking too much of that fake news. 4) if russia was involved you'd figured it would have been the first thing to break headlines not the last....keep waiting. 5)uh this wasn't due to a lack of tries. he tried but the democrats were the one who wouldn't budge on repealing obamacare for a new proposal. Obamacare is full of problem even bernie sanders admitted as such. 4) because our other option is elitist globalist crooked hillary who pretty much is the establishment candidate of the status quo? Someone new who says naughty things but has good policy or a real crook who meant more of the same injustice.... 1) You don't need to - I acknowledged in my post that I know that. 2) Yes. Infidelity, bribery, lying, campaign violations... far smaller things sunk better men. 3) Uh. He was CAMPAIGNING for PRESIDENT. Do you move goalposts for a living ? Jeez... 4) Russia will be the thing they end with. They are finding these other things along the way. 5) Revisionism. His own party wouldn't support his stupid proposals, what does that tell you. 6) A bunch of accusations strung together mean nothing because they are speculating and name-calling about someone who lost. The guy who won is a corrupt loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 So much for Trump BS on getting rid of auto tariffs between US and the EU. Trump rejects EU offer to eliminate auto tariffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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