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5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The first school shooting recorded in American history was 12 November 1840 at Charlottesville Virginia where a law professor was shot by one of his students.

Joseph Semmes shoots John Davis.  Pretty sure they were white.

So, what's your point for mentioning this? Should I have just said that white people started it all?  Just asking. 

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If you are going to beat the gun grabbers, the impetus you must resist, is a mandate to take the black mans gun away.  And the Indian man too, don't take his gun away.

Reason being, all gun grabbing is based on taking the black mans gun away, and taking the Indian mans gun away. 

  You don't have to love the black man, you don't have to love the Indian man, but if you let them take their guns away, that's the wedge in the door to come after you next, whitey.

In the UK, the hysterical fearmongering used to impose draconian gun control, was that the bomb throwing socialists were going to use the guns to overthrow the Crown.

But in America, it's all about pointing to the black man as a threat, and then using that to get everybody to sign their gun rights away.

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On 2/4/2019 at 11:08 PM, Yzermandius19 said:

In America, the most restrictive gun control goes on in the big cities, and the least restrictive gun control goes on in more sparsely populated areas of the state. For the most part, states that are the most urbanized have more restrictive gun control than states which are the least urbanized. Yet most of the gun deaths in the country are occurring in the big cities, and not out in the country where gun control is far more lax, state by state gun death per capita stats don't refute that observation in the slightest.

The Democrats are still the Plantation Aristocracy,  keeping the black man down, and so he is pitted against other inner city black men; in the Democrat Party's Hunger Games tournament, who knew?

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15 hours ago, taxme said:

America has ten times the population of Canada. There is no doubt about it that the reason why there are more gun deaths in America then in Canada is because of our population differences. 

That’s why stats are based on per 100 k population.

population doesn’t matter when it’s per capita..

you telling me you don’t understand that? My goodness.

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10 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

The Democrats are still the Plantation Aristocracy,  keeping the black man down, and so he is pitted against other inner city black men; in the Democrat Party's Hunger Games tournament, who knew?

The highest per capita gun deaths are Alaska .what big cities you referring to?

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48 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

What would per capita have to do with anything?  Two people in a town one shoots the other 50% of the population wiped out by guns fallacy.

Not only that, but we know most of the gun deaths in Alaska occur in it's most heavy populated areas, him trying to pretend like Alaska proves his point is quite humorous. State by state comparisons are nowhere near as useful as looking at where the gun deaths are occurring within the state. Jimwd only cherry picks state by state comparisons, because he thinks it makes the red states look bad, and he doesn't want to look at the stats within states, because that wouldn't support his pro-gun control argument at all, then he would see that most gun deaths occur in the parts of the state with the most gun control, not the least.

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7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Indeed.  But gun deaths are neither here nor there, freedom is a harsh realm and the price is that you must kill and die for it.

Yeah, but it's fun to crush Jimwd using gun death statistics, because they paint the opposite picture that he thinks they do, and keeps doubling down on the derp. Schooled at his own game, though he'll obviously never admit it, and will continue to cling to per capita gun death state by state comparisons as if it is the holy grail of gun stats.

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19 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

When it comes to America, pretty sure white people started it all. 

Those dam white people. Grrrrrrr. It's because of those dam white people that I now own a car and I can fly somewhere on earth in what is called a plane and do and have so much more. Dam those white people. The scourge of the earth. Deplorable race of people.  Grrrrrr.  

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38 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Yeah, but it's fun to crush Jimwd using gun death statistics, because they paint the opposite picture that he thinks they do, and keeps doubling down on the derp. Schooled at his own game, though he'll obviously never admit it, and will continue to cling to per capita gun death state by state comparisons as if it is the holy grail of gun stats.

Homicide is already on the books, I would say the majority of unlawful gun crime is in fact prosecuted already, can't make murder more illegal than it already is, thus; gun deaths are addressed already.

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Homicide is already on the books, I would say the majority of unlawful gun crime is in fact prosecuted already, can't make murder more illegal than it already is, thus; gun deaths are addressed already.

Yeah but, if you don't support pointless gun control policies, then you want children to die or some shit! Lefties so funny.

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1 minute ago, taxme said:

Those dam white people. Grrrrrrr. It's because of those dam white people that I now own a car and fly somewhere on earth in a plane and so much more. Those dam white people. Grrrrrr. 

Pretty sure I am a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant King of Virginia living amongst the red and green maples, in Gods country where it's like 95% white. 

Not sure what your point is.

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4 hours ago, Jimwd said:

That’s why stats are based on per 100 k population.

population doesn’t matter when it’s per capita..

you telling me you don’t understand that? My goodness.

What don't you understand? The bigger the population is in any country the more crime there will be. What don't you understand here? Do Canadians kill more people than Americans? 

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1 minute ago, taxme said:

What don't you understand? The bigger the population is in any country the more crime there will be. What don't you understand here? Do Canadians kill more people than Americans? 

Per capita dude, per capita factors out population size, that's whole point of per capita. Americans kill more people with guns than Canadians, even after you account for population size.

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2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Per capita dude, per capita factors out population size, that's whole point of per capita. Americans kill more people with guns than Canadians, even after you account for population size.

Which is the price of freedom.

Although, contrary to popular myth, it's not actually difficult to be lawfully armed to the teeth in Canada, pay the fee, take the course, a trained monkey could pass it. 

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3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Which is the price of freedom.

Although, contrary to popular myth, it's not actually difficult to be lawfully armed to the teeth in Canada, pay the fee, take the course, a trained monkey could pass it. 

Most of these gun deaths are occurring in parts of America with the least amount of gun freedom, the problem is cultural, not legal.

Canadian gun laws aren't going to stop Americans from shooting each other, even if they adopted them wholesale, but some lefties are apt to blame American gun laws as if they are causing these gun deaths regardless.

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Most of these gun deaths are occurring in parts of America with the least amount of gun freedom, but the problem is cultural, not legal. Canadian gun laws aren't going to stop Americans from shooting each other, though some lefties seem to think that would be the case.

I don't see it as a problem, don't live in Chicago, problem solved.  In terms of gun freedom, everybody has the freedom to murder or not.

I can't stop them by Pre-Crime program, that's the movies not real life.

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't see it as a problem, don't live in Chicago, problem solved.  In terms of gun freedom, everybody has the freedom to murder or not.

I can't stop them by Pre-Crime program, that's the movies not real life.

Lefties love those Pre-Crime programs though, especially in places like Chicago, and if you don't support the anti-Gun Pre-Crime programs, then you don't care about gun violence and want people to die, or so they think.

At least that nonsense makes for a good laugh though.

 

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3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Pretty sure I am a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant King of Virginia living amongst the red and green maples, in Gods country where it's like 95% white. 

Not sure what your point is.

My point is that if it were not for white people you would not be sitting at your computer desk and blabbing away on your keyboard. You would be out there right now looking for something to hunt down to eat with rocks. I can do all of my hunting and fishing at Safeway thanks to old whitey. The world is a better place to live in thanks to those dam white people. I know there are many who would look at what I said and call it racist but the truth is the truth. The facts are the facts. The world is a much better off place today thanks to those dam white people. 

Where do you living? Northern PEI? Maybe you live in an area where the population is 95% WASP but where I live it's not 95% WASP. It's more like 60% WASP and going down every year. 

I believe it was the white man who invented the gun which unfortunately in America and else where the gun is now used by some idiots to go shoot other people. The only problem with guns is that there are people who do not use them as they were intended to be used thus have created a big problem for America and Canada. 

Get my point yet? :D

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Just now, Dougie93 said:

I love gun violence. Violence of action with arm of decision are two of my favorite things.  I want people to die where they are the enemies of freedom, everybody else go in peace.

 

Everything in moderation, some people deserve to be shot and killed, for sure, the rest can go in peace. Gun violence is not inherently negative, circumstances matter, the left might be blind to that, but we certainly aren't.

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1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Not only that, but we know most of the gun deaths in Alaska occur in it's most heavy populated areas, him trying to pretend like Alaska proves his point is quite humorous. State by state comparisons are nowhere near as useful as looking at where the gun deaths are occurring within the state. Jimwd only cherry picks state by state comparisons, because he thinks it makes the red states look bad, and he doesn't want to look at the stats within states, because that wouldn't support his pro-gun control argument at all, then he would see that most gun deaths occur in the parts of the state with the most gun control, not the least.

He no doubt likes to avoid mentioning blue state cities like Chicago and Baltimore where gun murders run rampant. 

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