BubberMiley Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 As the argument fades, so the emojis get larger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, betsy said: 1) Murdering unborn children, is not comparable with the separation of children from parents that's in the news these days. Not by a long shot. Anyone trying to make comparison ought to have a head shake....to think clearly. 2) Go ask CAS how many children they've confiscated and forcibly removed from parents this month. Someone has to make decisions - and I bet you're all for that? 3) How many of these children have been removed........... from the frying pan into the fire? We end up reading about them, right? 1) Ok. Who did that here ? BC ? Also, many people think the separation and psychological trauma inflicted on babies and toddlers is much worse but that's for another thread. 2) Why of course ! Just the other day I heard of CAS seizing a child and putting them in a cage because the mother was from El Salvador. Somebody has to make decisions ! 3) Yes https://globalnews.ca/news/4015638/foster-parents-contract-bc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, betsy said: Why shouldn't I use another sexual orientation in comparison? Lol. Wow, just no matter how many times it is shown to you that pedophilia is NOT a sexual orientation, you're just gonna keep going with that, eh? Quote What about people who are attracted to animals? That's another sexual orientation, isn't it? Also answered in the APA material. Edited June 20, 2018 by Goddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 5 hours ago, BubberMiley said: As the argument fades, so the emojis get larger. And she just ignores the information that states pedophilia is NOT a sexual orientation, and now claims beastiality is a sexual oreintation even though the APA material states otherwise. She will never admit she's wrong. Next, she will start bleating about how homosexuals are just like necrophiliacs. Because you know, if you want to have sex with someone of your same gender, it's so obvious that you also want to have sex with an animal or a dead person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1) Ok. Who did that here ? BC ? Also, many people think the separation and psychological trauma inflicted on babies and toddlers is much worse but that's for another thread. So, what do you think happens to children seized by the CAS? Quote 2) Why of course ! Just the other day I heard of CAS seizing a child and putting them in a cage because the mother was from El Salvador. Somebody has to make decisions ! No. Not because they're from El Salvador. It's because they're ILLEGAL aliens. They simply just happens to be from El Salvador. I'm telling you folks, anti-Trumps are imbedded with this bunch. It's a ploy to make demonize Trump. It's a well- orchestrated effort. Edited June 20, 2018 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: And she just ignores the information that states pedophilia is NOT a sexual orientation, and now claims beastiality is a sexual oreintation even though the APA material states otherwise. She will never admit she's wrong. Next, she will start bleating about how homosexuals are just like necrophiliacs. Because you know, if you want to have sex with someone of your same gender, it's so obvious that you also want to have sex with an animal or a dead person. I love the smileys. Especially when they're aimed at trolls........trolls who end up being the ones getting trolled. You ignored my question: you think people who are attracted to animals, which is another sexual orientation - you think that's okay? Yes or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, betsy said: I'm telling you folks, anti-Trumps are imbedded with this bunch. It's a ploy to make demonize Trump. It's a well- orchestrated effort. "Anti-Trumps" are embedded in every group of people larger than three. Trump demonizes himself by acting like a demon, but the effort isn't particularly well orchestrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, betsy said: 1) So, what do you think happens to children seized by the CAS? 2) It's because they're ILLEGAL aliens. They simply just happens to be from El Salvador. 3) I'm telling you folks, anti-Trumps are imbedded with this bunch. It's a ploy to make demonize Trump. It's a well- orchestrated effort. 1) They go to foster homes ? 2) Yes, they are from El Salvador. 3) An absolute Conspiracy Theory there. Even the Pope fell for it. Do you think the pope is gullible also ? Do you believe Trump over the pope ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, betsy said: You ignored my question: you think people who are attracted to animals, which is another sexual orientation - you think that's okay? Yes or no. Betsy, this has been answered over and over. I provided you with all the information and you refuse to acknowledge it. Beastiality is not a "sexual orientation." Pedophilia is not a "sexual orientation". Necrophilia is not a "sexual orientation". Do I need to bold that, make the printing red, increase the font and place weird-ass emojis all over my posts to make you understand? Sheesh! You really are thick. Edited June 20, 2018 by Goddess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Goddess said: Betsy, this has been answered over and over. I provided you with all the information and you refuse to acknowledge it. What you gave was........... DISINFORMATION! Quote Pedophilia is not a "sexual orientation". It is. Quote It’s also true that the DSM-5 slightly adjusted their classification of pedophilia, defining it as “a sexual orientation https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/american-psychiatric-association-pedophilia/ Quote Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay' https://www.independent.co.uk/news/paedophilia-sexual-orientation-straight-gay-criminal-psychologist-child-sex-abuse-a6965956.html Just because you don't want to accept that, doesn't mean you're right. You're still wrong, Ms Disinformation-giver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, betsy said: What you gave was........... DISINFORMATION! It is. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/american-psychiatric-association-pedophilia/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/paedophilia-sexual-orientation-straight-gay-criminal-psychologist-child-sex-abuse-a6965956.html Just because you don't want to accept that, doesn't mean you're right. You're still wrong, Ms Disinformation-giver. Betsy!! For Pete's sake!! I will quote my post from earlier because I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse or not: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/apa-correct-manual-clarification-pedophilia-not-se/ Quote Pedophilia is not a “sexual orientation,” and erroneous use of that phrase will be corrected soon in its new manual on mental illnesses, the American Psychiatric Association said Thursday. The APA said in its statement that “‘sexual orientation’ is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its use in the DSM-5 text discussion is an error and should read ‘sexual interest.’” “In fact, APA considers pedophilic disorder a ‘paraphilia,’ not a ‘sexual orientation.’ This error will be corrected in the electronic version of DSM-5 and the next printing of the manual,” the organization said. The error appeared on page 698, said a spokeswoman. It added: “APA stands firmly behind efforts to criminally prosecute those who sexually abuse and exploit children and adolescents. We also support continued efforts to develop treatments for those with pedophilic disorder with the goal of preventing future acts of abuse.” What part of "It was an error and is being corrected in the new manuals" is difficult for you to understand? Please note that I even bolded the important part for you. If you still want to argue that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation" like homosexuality, then.......I'll leave you to continue your insane ranting about homosexuals = pedophiles and beastiality. You just look like an idiot now. Edited June 20, 2018 by Goddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Goddess said: Betsy!! For Pete's sake!! I will quote my post from earlier because I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse or not: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/apa-correct-manual-clarification-pedophilia-not-se/ What part of "It was an error and is being corrected in the new manuals" is difficult for you to understand? Please note that I even bolded the important part for you. My Snopes article seems to be referring to the updated version! 22 minutes ago, Goddess said: What part of "It was an error and is being corrected in the new manuals" is difficult for you to understand? Please note that I even bolded the important part for you. It wasn't an error. There is a reason for them back-tracking! Quote APA: Classifying pedophilia as a ‘sexual orientation’ was an ‘error’ After a national backlash from social conservatives, the American Psychiatric Association (ASA) has dropped its designation of pedophilia as a “sexual orientation.” In May, the APA released the Fifth Edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). In this document, the first new edition in 10 years, the APA described pedophilia as a sexual “orientation.” The classification went largely unnoticed until last month, when the NeonTommy blog of the Annenberg Digital News at the University of Southern California published a blog post critical of the terminology. Social conservatives said calling pedophilia an “orientation” was a step towards normalizing pedophiliac behavior. But within days, the APA changed the classification, noting in a press release “'Sexual orientation' is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its use in the DSM-5 text discussion is an error and should read 'sexual interest.’” https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/apa-classifying-pedophilia-as-a-sexual-orientation-was-an-error The APA defined it as a sexual orientation! They changed it.....because the APA bowed down to pressure! We know pedophilia will become like homosexuality, if it's defined as a sexual orientation. Edited June 20, 2018 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, betsy said: My Snopes article seems to be referring to the updated version! It wasn't an error. There is a reason for them back-tracking! https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/apa-classifying-pedophilia-as-a-sexual-orientation-was-an-error The APA defined it as a sexual orientation! They changed it.....because the APA bowed down to pressure! We know pedophilia will become like homosexuality, if it's defined as a sexual orientation. You think it's a big conspiracy ????? "Damn those homosexuals! What they really want is to have sex with children and animals and dead corpses!!" Subscribe to it all you want, I'm going to go with what science says and the APA has stated. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, especially those put forth by religious fundies, such as your linked article, which is nothing more than an opinion piece. Edited June 20, 2018 by Goddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Here's what Media Bias Fact Checker says about LifeSite News: "Extreme" - just like the Muslim extremists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goddess said: You think it's a big conspiracy ????? "Damn those homosexuals! What they really want is to have sex with children and animals and dead corpses!!" Subscribe to it all you want, I'm going to go with what science says and the APA has stated. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, especially those put forth by religious fundies, such as your linked article, which is nothing more than an opinion piece. I wouldn't call it "conspiracy." But, if I'm not mistaken - everyone seems to suddenly come up with a new classification - hebephilia - and I think this stemmed from all the controversy of homosexual men who are attracted to teens. I see it used in forums! That's the typical rebuttal. They are trying to steer away from being lumped with pedophiles. Thus there is now a "cut-off" age for pedophilia (14 years old). Anything 14 or above is now called "hebephilia." I've yet to hear people really use that term "hebephilia" in everyday conversation. Anyone tinkering with a minor is still called a pedophile. Edited June 20, 2018 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goddess said: Here's what Media Bias Fact Checker says about LifeSite News: "Extreme" - just like the Muslim extremists. Quote Whopping Pedophilia 'Sexual Orientation' Error Sparks Right-Wing Freakout In a text discussion of changes it made to the way it refers to sexually deviant behaviors in its updated Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM, for short), the APA accidentally called pedophilia a "sexual orientation." https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/pedophilia-sexual-orientation_n_4183482 Accidentally? And, no editor saw that big whopper of an "accident" before it got published? hahahaha. Yeah, right. Edited June 20, 2018 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreirrelevent Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 8:19 AM, Robert Greene said: Toronto Pride festival is coming up, and there doesn't seem to be any resistance anymore. Why do you feel conservatives are afraid to defend traditional values, and won't speak up about their concerns over the LGBT indoctrination? You don't even hear the hard right talk about their concerns anymore? What do you think shut them up? Why are conservatives afraid to speak up? The problem in Canada and most of the modern world is that free speech is slowly disappearing even though it is evidently implemented into section 7 of the Canadian charter rights where it says that all Canadians have a right to liberty which is directly tied with liberty of speech. Today many Social Justice Warriors are making free speech a lesser part of society. This then scares away people who are trying to make valid points of ethical history and science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 7:19 AM, Robert Greene said: Toronto Pride festival is coming up, and there doesn't seem to be any resistance anymore. Why do you feel conservatives are afraid to defend traditional values, and won't speak up about their concerns over the LGBT indoctrination? You don't even hear the hard right talk about their concerns anymore? What do you think shut them up? Why are conservatives afraid to speak up? Oh! Oh! Oh! I know... Cuz they're a bunch of homos? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 10:19 AM, Robert Greene said: Toronto Pride festival is coming up, and there doesn't seem to be any resistance anymore. Why do you feel conservatives are afraid to defend traditional values, and won't speak up about their concerns over the LGBT indoctrination? You don't even hear the hard right talk about their concerns anymore? What do you think shut them up? Why are conservatives afraid to speak up? Conservatives have spoken up, and quite eloquently. They elected Doug Ford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 On 6/17/2018 at 8:03 PM, turningrite said: Well, your last sentence is correct, but unfortunately science doesn't appear to sustain your opinion. I'm not religious at all, which may be the reason I see the impact of religion on this debate as being emotional rather than rational. But hasn't the current Pope said of homosexuality "Who am I to judge?" That seems pretty reasonable. I attended the gay pride festival/parade several years ago and to tell you the truth it was kind of boring. My sister, who was in town visiting from the U.S., wanted to see the parade, in particular, which featured a lot of organizations with very ordinary looking people marching behind big banners. There were floats, apparently sponsored by bars and big corporations, that featured loud music and go-go boys wearing tight shorts. There were a lot of drag queens, too, but that's not really a big deal these days. We probably stayed for half of it and then decided that maybe there was more going on elsewhere. I tend to agree with those who say that identity-focused festivals shouldn't obtain public funding but I believe the Toronto gay festival gets relatively little public funding compared to some other events. Someone or some group is funding these parades. It takes plenty of money to do so. I personally believe that anyone who attends and watches these parades are only assisting these sick individuals to spread their perversions even more. Even taking young children to watch a parade where nudity is seen is a sin. Children do not need to see this promotion of sick perversion. Apparently, in the bible, it is said that God abhors homosexuality. But yet the pope says "who am I to judge"? What a cop out. The pope is supposed to be a man of God who is supposed to be spreading the word of God and not shy away from some quotes in the bible for political correctness sake. But then again, the Catholic church is well known for pretty much promoting homosexuality in the church for centuries now. Even the Protestant religion will not condemn homosexuality anymore as it once did. They have also fallen under the political correctness banner. Shameful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 15 hours ago, eyeball said: Oh! Oh! Oh! I know... Cuz they're a bunch of homos? C'mon, get your facts straight, will you? You have the conservatives mixed up with liberal/socialists who are the biggest promoters of sexual perversion. The conservatives are forced to go along with this sick perversion nonsense because they must appear to be politically correct also. So sad indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, taxme said: C'mon, get your facts straight, will you? The conservatives are forced to go along with this sick perversion nonsense because they must appear to be politically correct also. So sad indeed. Yes that's what I said, conservatives are a bunch of pansies for keeping their feelings in the closet. No one is forcing you to appear politically correct but yourselves. Quote You have the conservatives mixed up with liberal/socialists who are the biggest promoters of sexual perversion. The only time conservatives seem to speak up about sexual perversion is when lefties criticize conservative institutions that practice it, take the Catholic Church for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 4:44 PM, youreirrelevent said: The problem in Canada and most of the modern world is that free speech is slowly disappearing even though it is evidently implemented into section 7 of the Canadian charter rights where it says that all Canadians have a right to liberty which is directly tied with liberty of speech. Today many Social Justice Warriors are making free speech a lesser part of society. This then scares away people who are trying to make valid points of ethical history and science. Go ahead and speak up. People are "afraid" of being called names and being shouted down because their views are detestable by a significant part of the country. You have free speech - go ahead and be brave and use it. Denouncing gay people isn't going to result in laws being changed, though. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Yes that's what I said, conservatives are a bunch of pansies for keeping their feelings in the closet. No one is forcing you to appear politically correct but yourselves. Wow, you're right ! Who are these "snowflakes" who are so afraid to speak their minds anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Wow, you're right ! Who are these "snowflakes" who are so afraid to speak their minds anyway ? I always thought snowflakes were those who objected to others speaking their minds. I guess it could also apply to those who are afraid to do so too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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