eyeball Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That must explain why it is called "British Columbia". The Palestinians and Israelis got to choose their own name. No, when America had ambitions on the place they called it Columbia, to get under England's skin - but when England's ambitions won out they added the qualifier British to rub Uncle Sam's nose in it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 3 hours ago, jbg said: Explain the do-over. Do you mean a do-over from the Nazi Holocaust? The do-over, which I have explained, is modern Israel. Jews lost Israel back some thousand years (might is right and Jews complain). Palestinians lost their land (might is right, but Jews complain that it's not enough) and will continue to lose land to the expanding Israeli state. 3 hours ago, jbg said: You can buy land and if you bring enough people to work the land and/or form an economy, sure. Chinese are buying up land in Canada. If they declare New China in Canada.. how would you feel about that? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 6:03 PM, GostHacked said: Chinese are buying up land in Canada. If they declare New China in Canada.. how would you feel about that? The other solution would be for Chinese to become Canadians and stop the multicultural male bovine excrement. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, jbg said: The other solution would be for Chinese to become Canadians and stop the multicultural male bovine excrement. But they bought the deed...... Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maymoon Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, jbg said: The other solution would be for Chinese to become Canadians and stop the multicultural male bovine excrement. What if the "fake Palestinians" become Israelis? Oh wait. They won't be able to, because Israel will not allow the "fake Palestinians" to go back to their homes they were kicked out of and there is the law that only gives citizenship to those who consider themselves Jewish. Edited May 11, 2018 by maymoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 3:03 PM, GostHacked said: Chinese are buying up land in Canada. If they declare New China in Canada.. how would you feel about that? More power to them. I'd be annoyed at the Canadian government for letting it happen, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 It seems to me that all people who want to be considered as civilised must have some informed opinion on the Middle-East situation, especially about the Israel/Palestine-issue. My somewhat uncivilised opinion has been all along is to ask what has that got to do with us (Finland). Nothing whatsoever. However, even though Finland counts for nothing and we could count ourselves lucky not to be involved in that hassle some civilised people in our country would very much like us to take sides in that conflict which has nothing to do with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/8/2018 at 5:28 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Really ? Why is the very same scenario celebrated in the U.S. and Canada (i.e. First Nations) ? Why is there a different standard for Israel ? What are you talking about? We don't pretend that the First Nations did not live here or don't exist. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: What are you talking about? We don't pretend that the First Nations did not live here or don't exist. What are you talking about ? Israel does not pretend that Palestinians don't exist. Israel actually has a much better record than Canada's present and past history of FN land theft, resource domination, subjugation, incarceration, residential schools, murders, scoop babies, pollution, etc. Several of Canada's First Nations allied themselves with "oppressed" Palestinians decades ago....for obvious reasons. Edited May 15, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: What are you talking about ? Israel does not pretend that Palestinians don't exist. Israel actually has a much better record than Canada's present and past history of FN land theft, resource domination, subjugation, incarceration, residential schools, murders, scoop babies, pollution, etc. Several of Canada's First Nations allied themselves with "oppressed" Palestinians decades ago....for obvious reasons. Canada has a terrible record and history when it comes to their treatment of the First Nations. That's in the past. Canada is trying to make amends and even though it's moving slowly, it is moving towards the right direction. The simple problem with your argument is that the treatment of Palestinians today, by Israel, would never be accepted by Canadians if it were done to the First Nations. Unless you have something new to add to your ridiculous argument, this case is closed. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: Canada has a terrible record and history when it comes to their treatment of the First Nations. That's in the past. Canada is trying to make amends and even though it's moving slowly, it is moving towards the right direction. It most certainly is not in the past....hundreds of land claims remain unsettled...unceded land remains occupied...water remains polluted...FN prisoners remain in prisons...babies are still taken from FN mothers. First Nations have no sovereign land rights in Canada....not even close to Palestine. Quote The simple problem with your argument is that the treatment of Palestinians today, by Israel, would never be accepted by Canadians if it were done to the First Nations. Unless you have something new to add to your ridiculous argument, this case is closed. Case is not closed...many "cases" still fester in Canada's government / judicial cesspools to nowhere. Just this week a federal judge approved the laughable settlement for FN's taken from their families over decades. In contrast, Ottawa gave a convicted war criminal $10.5 million for violating his rights. Look...I get it...you want me to shut up about past and PRESENT parallels between Canada's treatment of FN's (and other "visible minorities") and Israel's treatment of Palestinians / occupied territories. Israel will return all occupied territories and leave settlements just as soon as Canada's feds and provinces do for all FN's land and resources, pay for all the "genocide", recognize FN's as fully sovereign states. Good luck with that.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 1:40 PM, Hudson Jones said: The simple problem with your argument is that the treatment of Palestinians today, by Israel, would never be accepted by Canadians if it were done to the First Nations. Unless you have something new to add to your ridiculous argument, this case is closed. Pushing the narrative that Canada is treating the first nations the same as Israel's treatment of Palestinians is his schtick. Kind of like DogOnPorch's claim that Palestinians are Nazis. No amount of explanation and facts will deter these two from their routine. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Rather than get ourselves trapped in ‘we good, you bad’ arguments, let’s make a few predictions. I predict a 1.1 state solution whereby Israel will gradually increase its control of the West Bank, isolating Arab enclaves and creating ever more facts on the ground around them without increasing the number of Arab voters in the Israeli state. There will be no Palestinian state. That’s what I see for 2028. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted February 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 On 5/8/2018 at 7:26 PM, Hudson Jones said: Translation: People who have lived there for centuries and who had their land stolen from them are just a myth and don't deserve to have a state there, but European settlers who moved to that land, are magically the eternal owners of the land and deserve to have a state of their own. The chutzpah to suggest such a narrative is beyond ridiculous. By your logic everyone should go back to the Great Rift Valley. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 2/13/2018 at 12:04 PM, DogOnPorch said: Zionists bought their land from the Sultan. No kicking anybody off of any land. Indeed. The Zionist Ashkenazi. The Rothschilds who, although purchased the land, never go there. This story is so deep and full of "curveballs" that a solution is about impossible. For instance...The original Jews were Africans...not these Russians and Poles. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Indeed. The Zionist Ashkenazi. The Rothschilds who, although purchased the land, never go there. This story is so deep and full of "curveballs" that a solution is about impossible. For instance...The original Jews were Africans...not these Russians and Poles. Folks don't like it, but the Jews have the paperwork. Arabs also had a chance to buy land...but they generally didn't. It was the rich Arabs like the Mufti that bought land, rather...increasing their clan's power. Husseini or Hashemite alike...both descendants of Mohammed...apparently. Two men say they're Jesus...one of them must be wrong. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Folks don't like it, but the Jews have the paperwork. Arabs also had a chance to buy land...but they generally didn't. It was the rich Arabs like the Mufti that bought land, rather...increasing their clan's power. Husseini or Hashemite alike...both descendants of Mohammed...apparently. Two men say they're Jesus...one of them must be wrong. Yup. It's a bloody mess alrighty. For instance...Semites are Arab people. The Ashkenazi "adopted" the term. Palestinian people have existed for thousands of years. But money and power have erased their very existence. Like I said...it's a bloody mess. Israel is now and nothing anyone does can change that. I can accept it...but I can also learn the raw truth and find Zionism guilty of backhanded crap. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Well...no. Arabs started coming to the Levant in large numbers starting in the Middle Ages. Not before. Remember, other Empires existed before the Arabs took most of the region and North Africa by conquest. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Well...no. Arabs started coming to the Levant in large numbers starting in the Middle Ages. Not before. Remember, other Empires existed before the Arabs took most of the region and North Africa by conquest. Oh? So the Philistines never existed? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Oh? So the Philistines never existed? Philistines were were not Arabs. They were actually eliminated as a people by Alexander the Great who literally killed all the men and shipped the women to Macedonia. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Philistines were were not Arabs. They were actually eliminated as a people by Alexander the Great who literally killed all the men and shipped the women to Macedonia. Hmmm...I guess someone forgot to tell the Philistines then. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Hmmm...I guess someone forgot to tell the Philistines then. David is like 1000 BC or so. Long ago. Alexander sieged Tyre and Gaza in 332 BC...eliminating the Philistines/Phoenicians. A 'Peoples of the Sea'. The Persian Empire at the time. The Romans won the Jewish-Roman wars around 70 AD...Fall of Jerusalem etc. They renamed the region of Judea to Syria-Palestina as a snub to their very feisty Jewish enemy and drove them completely from the region. Diaspora. The Arabs took Jerusalem in 637 AD. It fell without much of a fight from the Byzantines...Greeks essentially. Them's the dates. Edited February 24, 2022 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) All I'm saying is put and Israeli guy next to an Arab guy and I can't tell the difference. Edited February 24, 2022 by DogOnPorch 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: David is like 1000 BC or so. Long ago. Alexander sieged Tyre and Gaza in 332 BC...eliminating the Philistines/Phoenicians. A 'Peoples of the Sea'. The Persian Empire at the time. The Romans won the Jewish-Roman wars around 70 AD...Fall of Jerusalem etc. They renamed the region of Judea to Syria-Palestina as a snub to their very feisty Jewish enemy and drove them completely from the region. Diaspora. The Arabs took Jerusalem in 637 AD. It fell without much of a fight from the Byzantines...Greeks essentially. Them's the dates. I know most of the cities were sacked...Ashdod, Akron and Ashkelon...but were ALL the Philistines destroyed? I somehow doubt it. https://metrovoicenews.com/dna-shows-philistines-and-modern-day-palestinians-were-really-european/ Indeed...the saga is a bloody mess... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: All I'm saying is put and Israeli guy next to an Arab and I can't tell the difference. LOL...thanks man. Its nice to start the day with a giggle. Really...thanks. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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