bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: More to the point they're for whoever Israel's patrons decide they're for...or not. Has nothing to do with Israel or its patrons....it just the way it is...and always has been. Why do some people have special rules for Israel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Has nothing to do with Israel or its patrons....it just the way it is...and always has been. And especially since 2003, practically forever. Quote Why do some people have no rules for Israel ? FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, eyeball said: And especially since 2003, practically forever. Well, at least you didn't whine about 1953 instead....that's progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: If the Arabs had the military power which they don't they would have invaded and captured Israel and likely with no mercy for the population with likely millions killed and raped. They have shown this behaviour in the past and the hate is so strong against Israelis that they will very likely do it now even with all these so called international laws. geez they don't even have mecy for their own. Look at them what they are doing to their own in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, ......!!!. It's possible that the Arabs may have been ruthless and genocidal in their behaviour had they had the power. This still does not excuse the colonization of Palestinians by Europe and the ruthless, racist and discriminatory behaviour of Israelis towards the Palestinians. Europeans are the ones who are responsible for the holocaust. They should have dealt with finding a homeland for the Jews. Edited January 30, 2018 by marcus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Well, at least you didn't whine about 1953 instead....that's progress. Oh there’s plenty to whine about 1953.... But that’s another discussion and nothing to do with this this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 12 hours ago, marcus said: Europeans are the ones who are responsible for the holocaust. They should have dealt with finding a homeland for the Jews. The above comment evidences precisely why Marcus has zero credibility and spews pathetic Palestinian Authority scripts. This excerpt summarizes the above script: source: http://jcpa.org/article/palestinians-arabs-and-the-holocaust/ "One of the major Palestinian Arab arguments regarding the establishment of the state of Israel is that the West facilitated its founding out of guilt over the Holocaust. Palestinians insist that the Holocaust is a purely Western and Christian crime that has nothing to do with them or other Arabs.1 For example, Palestinian activist Omar Barghouti writes as follows: …Palestinians—and Arabs more generally—bear no responsibility whatsoever for the Holocaust, a European genocide committed against mostly European Jews, Roma, and Slavs, among others. It is therefore not incumbent upon Palestinians to pay in our lives, lands, and livelihoods the price for relieving Europe’s conscience of its collective guilt over the Holocaust.2 Jibril Rajoub, a member of the Fatah Central Committee and former Palestinian Authority security chief, asserted on July 24, 2014 that “it was the Nazis, not us, who did the Holocaust to them… We are paying the price for Europe’s crimes against them in the previous century.”3 Likewise, PLO official Husam Zomlot recently stated that “the Nazis were responsible for it [the Holocaust]. The Palestinians had nothing to do with it. The Israelis were responsible for the Nakba.”4 This argument is part of the overall Palestinian narrative which maintains that Palestinians are the innocent victims of an injustice inflicted by others, especially Westerners and Zionists. According to Barghouti, “the conflict is a colonial conflict…based on ethnic cleansing, racism, settler colonialism, and apartheid,”5 and the state of Israel “was created through…[a] well-planned campaign of ethnic cleansing.”6 Thus, the nakba—the tragedy of the Palestinian refugees who were displaced by the war of 1948—is entirely the fault of the Zionists and their Western supporters, not of the Palestinians themselves. According to this narrative, in 1948, the Zionists were waging a war of preplanned ethnic cleansing, not a war of self-defense against Palestinian aggressors with genocidal intentions and a history of Nazi collaboration. Therefore, any accusation of genocide and genocidal hatred should be directed only at Westerners and Zionists, not at Palestinians or Arabs. However, the claim that Palestinians and Arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust is false. In fact, Arab and Palestinian leaders played a significant role in aiding and abetting the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews in Europe and they hoped to implement the genocide in the Middle East." Here let Marcus hide from me and the following: http://www.projetaladin.org/holocaust/en/muslims-and-jews/the-holocaust-and-muslims.html http://missingpeace.eu/en/2014/01/arab-role-in-the-holocaust-exposed/ I am again calling out Marcus for holocaust denial and trying to re-write to justify his own bigotry against Jews for creating a nation. It is a fact the leader of the Muslims in pre-Israel Palestine, the Grand Mufti Mohammad Amin Al-Husayni, was closely allied with, and actively assisted the Nazis throughout the Second World War. In fact he pressured and was instrumental in getting Adolph Eichman to use cynide to kill Jews and not use bullets so more could he killed faster. In fact Al-Husayni met with Hitler several times, and lived in a confiscated Jewish home throughout WW2 in Berlin He was given a personal tour of the Auschwitz death camp by Heinrich Himmler, where he reportedly “ lectured the guards for not killing Jews fast enough. Al-Husayni has been proven by German documents to have recruited Muslims for the German SS, amounting to hundreds of thousands and he planned and carried out a chemical attack on Jews in Tel Aviv. Yasser Arafat, his protigee and successor served as one of his troops in 1948. The othe r PA genius Mr. Abbas wrote his Ph.d thesis in Moscow denying the holocaust occurred. The support of Hitler in the Arab world of the ME pre, during and post WW2 is fact. Syria, Egypt, Iraq created regimes modelled on Nazi Germany. Hitler mustaches flourished in the ME on most men as a sign of support for Hitler. To this day Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, use the Nazi salute and goose step. Hitler's Mein Kampf and the antisemitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion have always beemn bestsellers in several Muslim countries. For Marcus to pretend this was only a European phenomena is a crock of shit. That's why he hides from me. He has no idea how to respond when he's exposed but exposed he will be and its why Porch calls him a denier of history. “Kill the Jews wherever you find them, this is pleasing to Allah.” - Mohammad Amin Al-Husayni, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, 1943 http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Exposing-the-myth-of-the-Arab-bystander-to-the-Holocaust-339430 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 12 hours ago, marcus said: It's possible that the Arabs may have been ruthless and genocidal in their behaviour had they had the power. The above shows how Marcus is completely dettached from reality to the point he spews absolute dribble. Why would he try to pretend there were no regimes in Egypt, Syria, Iraq for example, that have had power and supported Hitler? Why would he pretend that "Arabs" have not been ruthless to their own people in their nations. What type of individual would come on this forum and pretend Arab regimes have not been self ruled and have engaged in ruthless behaviour against their own citizens? What the phack does he think has transpired in Sudan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq? What a pathetic attempt to lie and distort history. Who was Muhammed Ghaddafi, Gamel Adnel Nasser, Saadam Hussein? What dimension does Marcus come from? Who Marcus know anything about the civil wars in Lebanon, or the genocide of Yazidi or Kurds? Who Marcus? Oh hell Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, they don't exist and their human rights abuses-poof begone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, kactus said: Oh there’s plenty to whine about 1953.... But that’s another discussion and nothing to do with this this thread. Oh look all of a sudden who wants the thread to be on topic. Pathetic. The ole Kactus to Marcus to Eye hand off. Just like watching the Super Bowl except we have no half backs, just half asses. Edited January 30, 2018 by Rue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rue said: Oh look all of a sudden who wants the thread to be on topic. Pathetic. The ole Kactus to Marcus to Eye hand off. Just like watching the Super Bowl except we have no half backs, just half asses. I have no idea what you are on about...What is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 12 hours ago, marcus said: It's possible that the Arabs may have been ruthless and genocidal in their behaviour had they had the power. This still does not excuse the colonization of Palestinians by Europe and the ruthless, racist and discriminatory behaviour of Israelis towards the Palestinians. Europeans are the ones who are responsible for the holocaust. They should have dealt with finding a homeland for the Jews. Outright lie. https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007665 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Rue said: It is a fact the leader of the Muslims in pre-Israel Palestine, the Grand Mufti Mohammad Amin Al-Husayni, was closely allied with, and actively assisted the Nazis throughout the Second World War. In fact he pressured and was instrumental in getting Adolph Eichman to use cynide to kill Jews and not use bullets so more could he killed faster. So what, its just as much of a fact that Canada sent Jewish refugees back to Europe - like everyone else we were probably just concerned about our values and unemployment and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: It's the truth http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1174272-canada-turned-away-jewish-refugees FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: So what, its just as much of a fact that Canada sent Jewish refugees back to Europe - like everyone else we were probably just concerned about our values and unemployment and stuff. Not quite...they wouldn't let them in. Cuba was the lovely nation that sent the St Louis packing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, eyeball said: FIFY False quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: False quote. You're not free to deny history, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, eyeball said: You're not free to deny history, sorry. I didn't post what you quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Not quite...they wouldn't let them in. Cuba was the lovely nation that sent the St Louis packing. Whether we were in for a penny or in for a pound...we were in, and as guilty as anyone for keeping Jews out. More guilty in fact because we knew better than to behave like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I didn't post what you quoted. I accept your surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, eyeball said: I accept your surrender. You wish. 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Whether we were in for a penny or in for a pound...we were in, and as guilty as anyone for keeping Jews out. More guilty in fact because we knew better than to behave like that. Yes indeed. But we weren't the country that tried to extort them and then when that didn't work, sent them sailing back to Germany. That was CUBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maymoon Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Are there actual people here who are saying that the Arabs/Muslims were responsible for the holocaust? This is some serious historical negationism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Yes indeed. But we weren't the country that tried to extort them and then when that didn't work, sent them sailing back to Germany. That was CUBA. What extortion? In any case Canada was the last hope after Cuba and the US denied them - in that order. It was Canada that sent them back to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, maymoon said: Are there actual people here who are saying that the Arabs/Muslims were responsible for the holocaust? This is some serious historical negationism. There are several people here who have believed this for years and years. You haven't seen anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, maymoon said: Are there actual people here who are saying that the Arabs/Muslims were responsible for the holocaust? This is some serious historical negationism. Haj Amin al-Husseini was most certainly involved in the actual Holocaust. The founder of the Palestinian Cause and Arafat's uncle. You're free to deny his existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, eyeball said: What extortion? In any case Canada was the last hope after Cuba and the US denied them - in that order. It was Canada that sent them back to Europe. Cuba extorted the supposedly rich Jews on the St Louis. When they could no longer 'afford' to sit in Cuban waters waiting for US intake, the German crew sailed for home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Cuba extorted the supposedly rich Jews on the St Louis. When they could no longer 'afford' to sit in Cuban waters waiting for US intake, the German crew sailed for home. At least Cuba gave Jews a chance. Canada simply told them to fuck-off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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