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1 hour ago, Owl said:

 

1. In your message, I see concepts from the "first vulgar Marxism". But Marx rejected it. In addition, the ideology of building Communism is Marxism-Leninism. Lenin accepted Marx's ideas from Plekhanov, then he developed them .. Therefore, according to Marxism-Leninism:

1. There is "Private property". It would be more correct to say - private ownership of funds production of goods for sale.

2. There is "Personal property" that is necessary for life

3. A person owns personal and private property ....

(Contrary to misconceptions, in the USSR you could own both personal and private property!)

 

where is the misunderstanding?

Here it is:

In the USSR, it was forbidden to create "Surplus value", as it is "exploitation of man by man" ... Example:

1. You are a builder ...

you have friends who are builders too .. you create a Company, buy Equipment, Cars, build houses, sell them, pay taxes and make a profit.

Then you divide the profit among yourself according to your labor.

Was this allowed in the USSR?

Yes! called "Artel"

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2. You are not a builder ..

you have friends who are builders .. you create a Company, buy Equipment, Cars, build houses, sell them, pay taxes and make a profit.

 

Then you pay your friends' salaries and make a profit ...

Was this allowed in the USSR?

Not! Since, in this case, you create surplus value...

With capitalist economics leading us all to a disaster lately, I've been dusting off my books on Marx and reading more from a growing number of younger socialists who are trying to figure ways out of a range of dilemmas we're all facing today. 

I don't have an attribution for this, but just recently I heard a claim by a reputable source that it was actually Adam Smith "Wealth of Nations"  fame who first created a 'labor theory of value.' The difference of course was that capitalist merchant like Smith would never agree to a system that declares all surplus value belongs to the workers who created it, but apparently Karl Marx himself, read Adam Smith's book in the 1840's and used his theory to develop a socialist form.

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23 minutes ago, Right To Left said:

Поскольку капиталистическая экономика в последнее время привела всех нас к катастрофе, я отряхиваю пыль со своих книг по Марксу и читаю все больше от растущего числа молодых социалистов, которые пытаются найти пути выхода из ряда дилемм, с которыми мы все сталкиваемся сегодня. 

У меня нет объяснения этому, но совсем недавно я услышал заявление авторитетного источника о том, что на самом деле именно Адам Смит из «Богатства народов» первым создал «трудовую теорию стоимости». Разница, конечно, заключалась в том, что капиталистический купец, такой как Смит, никогда не согласился бы с системой, которая объявляет, что вся прибавочная стоимость принадлежит создателям ее рабочих, но, очевидно, сам Карл Маркс прочитал книгу Адама Смита в 1840-х годах и использовал свою теорию для разработки социалистической системы. форма.

 

I would like the following

1. People who live in different countries understand Adam Smith and Karl Marx differently ...

2. First of all Adam Smith is an economist. He tried to create a theory about surplus value. Free market, Demand and Supply .. But Adam Smith did not deal with issues of Politics, Philosophy ...

3. Karl Marx solved 3 questions:

- Economy "Capital". Surplus value book. (Note that Marx Surplus Value is different from Adam Smith)

-Policy "Communist Manifesto"

- Philosophy "Dialectical materialism" ....

 

but Marx was a theoretician ... he died the year Lenin was born Lenin embodied the ideas of Marx, but he remade them ...

 

I can talk a lot about the sources of Marxism-Leninism ...

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8 hours ago, Owl said:

 

1. In your message, I see concepts from the "first vulgar Marxism". But Marx rejected it. In addition, the ideology of building Communism is Marxism-Leninism. Lenin accepted Marx's ideas from Plekhanov, then he developed them .. Therefore, according to Marxism-Leninism:

1. There is "Private property". It would be more correct to say - private ownership of funds production of goods for sale.

2. There is "Personal property" that is necessary for life

3. A person owns personal and private property ....

(Contrary to misconceptions, in the USSR you could own both personal and private property!)

 

where is the misunderstanding?

Here it is:

In the USSR, it was forbidden to create "Surplus value", as it is "exploitation of man by man" ... Example:

1. You are a builder ...

you have friends who are builders too .. you create a Company, buy Equipment, Cars, build houses, sell them, pay taxes and make a profit.

Then you divide the profit among yourself according to your labor.

Was this allowed in the USSR?

Yes! called "Artel"

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2. You are not a builder ..

you have friends who are builders .. you create a Company, buy Equipment, Cars, build houses, sell them, pay taxes and make a profit.

 

Then you pay your friends' salaries and make a profit ...

Was this allowed in the USSR?

Not! Since, in this case, you create surplus value...

Sounds like propaganda produced by clever Communists to sell their evil system.  The Communists in the USSR starved millions of people when they collectivized the farms.  Communists don't tell you they killed 100 million people in the USSR and China to enforce Communism.  They also don't tell you there were massive shortages of goods and infrastructure because supplies, production, transportation and distribution networks were absent. Just ask anyone who lived through that era and had no connections with the party insiders who had what they wanted at the expense of the masses of common folk.  You would be fortunate if you could get a potato or piece of bread.

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17 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Sounds like propaganda produced by clever Communists to sell their evil system.  The Communists in the USSR starved millions of people when they collectivized the farms.  Communists don't tell you they killed 100 million people in the USSR and China to enforce Communism.  They also don't tell you there were massive shortages of goods and infrastructure because supplies, production, transportation and distribution networks were absent. Just ask anyone who lived through that era and had no connections with the party insiders who had what they wanted at the expense of the masses of common folk.  You would be fortunate if you could get a potato or piece of bread.

I think the best metric is just to look which way the razor wire was pointing.

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1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Sounds like propaganda produced by clever Communists to sell their evil system.  The Communists in the USSR starved millions of people when they collectivized the farms.  Communists don't tell you they killed 100 million people in the USSR and China to enforce Communism.  They also don't tell you there were massive shortages of goods and infrastructure because supplies, production, transportation and distribution networks were absent. Just ask anyone who lived through that era and had no connections with the party insiders who had what they wanted at the expense of the masses of common folk.  You would be fortunate if you could get a potato or piece of bread.

 

It's always refreshing when a little reality comes and slaps you up side o the head... :D

 

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9 hours ago, Owl said:

 

I would like the following

1. People who live in different countries understand Adam Smith and Karl Marx differently ...

2. First of all Adam Smith is an economist. He tried to create a theory about surplus value. Free market, Demand and Supply .. But Adam Smith did not deal with issues of Politics, Philosophy ...

3. Karl Marx solved 3 questions:

- Economy "Capital". Surplus value book. (Note that Marx Surplus Value is different from Adam Smith)

-Policy "Communist Manifesto"

- Philosophy "Dialectical materialism" ....

 

but Marx was a theoretician ... he died the year Lenin was born Lenin embodied the ideas of Marx, but he remade them ...

 

I can talk a lot about the sources of Marxism-Leninism ...

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I have a little book called "Was Karl Marx a Satanist?" by Richard Wurmbrand.  Unfortunately I cannot find it on Amazon.  It is not surprising since the book says one-third of the world is Marxist.  It is strange that Karl Marx grew up with knowledge of the Christian faith and seemed to be quite a believer.  When he finished high school the following was written on his graduation certificate:  "His knowledge of the Christian faith and morals is fairly clear and well grounded.  He knows also to some extent the history of the Christian church."   "Shortly after he received this certificate, something mysterious happened in his life: He became profoundly, passionately anti-religious."  

 

"He writes in a poem, "I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above."   "So he was convinced that there is One above who rules.  He was in a quarrel with Him.  But the One above had done him no wrong.  Marx belonged to a relatively well-to-do family.  He had not hungered in his childhood.  He was much better off than many fellow students.  What produced this terrible hatred against God?"

The fact one-third of the world is Marxist points to the Biblical doctrine of the total depravity of man.  Man inherited a depraved fallen nature from the rebellion and fall of their first parents, Adam and Eve.  This fall is described in Genesis.  It would explain why so many in the world have embraced all sorts of false religions and ideologies, including Marxism.  Marxism is one of those ideologies that sound good  on the surface because it claims it would create a utopia on earth.  The problem is it would require the violation of God's word which enshrines man with the right to own private property.  It also violates God's word in other ways.  Marxism is anti-religion and seeks to abolish all religion including belief in God and the Bible.  This is exactly why Communist China imprisoned a million or more people and is committing human rights violations against them.  It is an attempt to abolish any and every religion because it is a threat to Communism or Marxism.  Marxism also does not work in reality and never has because man does not work or think that way.  Human nature is such that those who are in control look after themselves and their relatives and friends first, and forget everyone else.

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14 hours ago, blackbird said:

У меня есть небольшая книжка под названием «Был ли Карл Маркс сатанистом?» Ричарда Вурмбранда. К сожалению, я не могу найти его на Amazon. Это неудивительно, поскольку в книге говорится, что одна треть мира - марксисты. Странно, что Карл Маркс вырос на знании христианской веры и казался вполне верующим. Когда он закончил среднюю школу, в его аттестате об окончании было написано следующее: «Его знание христианской веры и морали достаточно ясно и хорошо обосновано. Он также до некоторой степени знает историю христианской церкви». «Вскоре после того, как он получил это свидетельство, в его жизни произошло нечто загадочное: он стал глубоко, страстно антирелигиозным».  

 

«Он пишет в стихотворении:« Я хочу отомстить Тому, кто правит выше ».« Так он был убежден, что есть Тот, кто правит выше ». Он был в ссоре с Ним. Но Тот, что выше, не сделал ему ничего плохого. Маркс принадлежал к относительно обеспеченной семье. В детстве он не голодал. Он был намного лучше, чем многие сокурсники. Что породило эту ужасную ненависть к Богу? "

Тот факт, что одна треть мира является марксистской, указывает на библейское учение о полной порочности человека. Человек унаследовал развратную падшую природу от восстания и падения своих прародителей, Адама и Евы. Это падение описано в Книге Бытия. Это объяснило бы, почему так много людей в мире приняли всевозможные ложные религии и идеологии, включая марксизм. Марксизм - одна из тех идеологий, которые кажутся хорошими на первый взгляд, потому что утверждают, что создадут утопию на земле. Проблема в том, что это потребует нарушения Слова Божьего, которое закрепляет за человеком право владеть частной собственностью. Это также нарушает Слово Божье и другими способами. Марксизм является антирелигиозным и стремится уничтожить все религии, включая веру в Бога и Библию. Именно поэтому коммунистический Китай заключил в тюрьму миллион или более человек и совершает против них нарушения прав человека. Это попытка отменить любую религию, потому что это угроза коммунизму или марксизму. Марксизм также не работает в действительности и никогда не работает, потому что человек так не работает и не думает. Человеческая природа такова, что те, кто контролирует ситуацию, в первую очередь заботятся о себе, своих родственниках и друзьях и забывают обо всех остальных.

 

first of all, I must say that I understand and respect your opinion.

You are a believer....

Let's figure it out without political stereotypes ..

1. You write that you read "a little book about Marxism", which was written by some author

I read the primary sources of Marxism .

 Do you think you know more about Marxism than I do?

2. I explain to you - Marxism is just a "naked theory" ...

To get Reality, you must know Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Juche ...

 

3. But I like that you are trying to understand politics.

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2 hours ago, Owl said:

 

first of all, I must say that I understand and respect your opinion.

You are a believer....

Let's figure it out without political stereotypes ..

1. You write that you read "a little book about Marxism", which was written by some author

I read the primary sources of Marxism .

 Do you think you know more about Marxism than I do?

2. I explain to you - Marxism is just a "naked theory" ...

To get Reality, you must know Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Juche ...

 

3. But I like that you are trying to understand politics.

We have seen and know enough about the diabolical ideology of Marxism or Communism in the world to avoid it like the plague, which it is.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" Matthew 7:16 KJB

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Ephesians 5:11 KJB

"16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." John 3:16-21 KJB

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5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

«Вы узнаете их по плодам. Собирают ли люди виноград с терновника или смоквы с чертополоха?» Матфея 7:16 KJB

«И не участвуйте в бесплодных делах тьмы, но обличайте их». Ефесянам 5:11 KJB

Мы видели и знаем достаточно о дьявольской идеологии марксизма или коммунизма в мире, чтобы избежать ее, как чумы, какой она и является.

 

good good... you live in Europe, but not in America ... I do not believe in God

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11 minutes ago, blackbird said:

We have seen and know enough about the diabolical ideology of Marxism or Communism in the world to avoid it like the plague, which it is.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" Matthew 7:16 KJB

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Ephesians 5:11 KJB

"16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." John 3:16-21 KJB

 

Sir ...

1. Arguing with me about "Marxism" is useless. you will lose.

2. I do not argue about religion, since you are the boss

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8 minutes ago, Owl said:

 

good good... you live in Europe, but not in America ... I do not believe in God

"Genesis

The Beginning

(John 1:1-5)

 

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The First Day: Light

3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Second Day: Firmament

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The Third Day: Dry Ground

9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13And the evening and the morning were the third day.

The Fourth Day: Sun, Moon, Stars

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The Fifth Day: Fish and Birds

20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

The Sixth Day: Creatures on Land

24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

So, yes God is and has revealed himself in his written word and in his Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.  Whether you believe it or not, it is a fact that you will someday face for good or worse.

The evidence is all around you in the creation.  Creation was no accident.  The material universe was created by a Divine Creator. 

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8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

"Бытие

Начало

( Иоанна 1: 1-5 )

 

1 В начале Бог сотворил небо и землю. 2 Земля была бесформенна и пуста; и тьмабылана лице бездны. И Дух Божий носился над водою.    

День первый: свет

3 И сказал Бог: да будет свет; и стал свет. 4 И увидел Бог свет, чтоонхорош. И отделил Бог свет от тьмы. 5 И назвал Бог свет днем, а тьму назвал ночью. И вечер, и утро были первым днем.     

День второй: Небесный свод

6 И сказал Бог: да будет твердь посреди воды, и да отделяет она воду от воды. 7 И создал Бог твердь, и отделил водукотораябылапод твердьюот водыкотораябыланад твердьюи это было так. 8 И назвал Бог твердь небом. А вечер и утро были вторым днем.       

Третий день: сухая земля

9 И сказал Бог: да соберется вода под небом в одно место, и даявитсясуша. И стало так. 10 И назвал БогсушуЗемлей; и собрание вод назвал он морями: и увидел Бог, чтоэтохорошо. 11 И сказал Бог: да произрастит земля траву, траву, приносящую семя,иплодовое дерево, приносящее плод по роду его, семякоторогов себе, на земле. И стало так. 12 И произрастала земля трава,итрава, приносящая семя по роду его, и дерево, приносящее плод, семя которогобыло                 в себе, по роду его: и увидел Бог, что это хорошо. 13 А вечером и утром был день третий.    

День четвертый: Солнце, Луна, Звезды

14 И сказал Бог: да будут светила на тверди небесной, чтобы отделять день от ночи; и пусть они будут знамениями и временами, и днями и годами: 15 И пусть они будут светилами на тверди небесной, чтобы светить на землю: и стало так. 16 И создал Бог два светила великих; свет больше, чтобы управлять днем, и свет меньший, чтобы управлять ночью:Он создалтакже звезды. 17 И поставил их Бог на тверди небесной, чтобы светить на землю, 18 и управлять днем и ночью, и отделять свет от тьмы. И увидел Бог, чтоэтохорошо. 19         А вечер и утро были день четвертый.

Пятый день: рыбы и птицы

20 И сказал Бог: да выведет вода обильно твари, имеющие жизнь, и птиц,которыемогут летать над землей на открытой тверди небесной. 21 И создал Бог больших китов и всякую живую тварь, которая двигалась, которую вода произвела обильно по роду их, и всякую крылатую птицу по роду ее. И увидел Бог, чтоэтохорошо. 22 И благословил их Бог, говоря: плодитесь и размножайтесь, и наполняйте воды в морях, и птицы да размножаются на земле. 23 Вечер и утро были день пятый.        

Шестой день: Существа на суше

24 И сказал Бог: да родит земля живое существо по роду его, скот и гадов и зверей земных по роду его. И стало так. 25 И создал Бог зверей земных по роду их, и скот по роду их, и всех гадов земных по роду их. И увидел Бог, чтоэтохорошо.    

26 И сказал Бог: сотворим человека по образу Нашему и по подобию Нашему, и пусть они будут владычествовать над рыбами морскими, и над птицами небесными, и над скотом, и над всей землей и над всей землей. всякое пресмыкающееся, что ползет по земле. 27 И сотворил Бог человека по своемусобственномуобразу, по образу Божию сотворил его; мужчину и женщину сотворил их. 28 И благословил их Бог, и сказал им Бог: плодитесь и размножайтесь, и наполняйте землю, и покоряйте ее; и господствуйте над рыбами морскими, и над птицами небесными, и над всем живым. что движется по земле. 29 И сказал Бог: вот, Я дал вам всякую травусеющую семя, какаяесть       на лице всей земле, и всякое дерево, в котором находится плод древесный , сеющий семя; тебе это будет в пищу. 30 И всем зверям земным, и всем птицам небесным и всем гадам по земле, в которых есть жизнь, Я дал в пищу всякую зелень травы: и стало так. 31 И увидел Бог все, что Он создал, и вот, хорошо весьма. Вечер и утро были день шестой ".           

Итак, да, Бог есть и явил Себя в своем письменном слове и в своем Сыне, Господе Иисусе Христе. Верите вы в это или нет, но это факт, что однажды вы столкнетесь с хорошим или худшим.

 

look 1.

Moses said

- everything is from God

2. Jesus said

- everything from the Father

3. Einstein said

- everything is relative

4. Rothschild said

- everything from money ..

 

They are all Jews. The more Jews there are, the more "freedom and democracy"

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11 minutes ago, blackbird said:

"Genesis

The Beginning

(John 1:1-5)

 

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The First Day: Light

3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Second Day: Firmament

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The Third Day: Dry Ground

9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13And the evening and the morning were the third day.

The Fourth Day: Sun, Moon, Stars

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The Fifth Day: Fish and Birds

20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

The Sixth Day: Creatures on Land

24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

So, yes God is and has revealed himself in his written word and in his Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.  Whether you believe it or not, it is a fact that you will someday face for good or worse.

The evidence is all around you in the creation.  Creation was no accident.  The material universe was created by a Divine Creator. 

you are not a Jew.
very sad..
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On 3/5/2021 at 5:16 AM, Owl said:

 

first of all, I must say that I understand and respect your opinion.

You are a believer....

Let's figure it out without political stereotypes ..

1. You write that you read "a little book about Marxism", which was written by some author

I read the primary sources of Marxism .

 Do you think you know more about Marxism than I do?

2. I explain to you - Marxism is just a "naked theory" ...

To get Reality, you must know Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Juche ...

 

3. But I like that you are trying to understand politics.

I don't agree with #3 though, cause I don't believe he is trying to understand politics. More like trying to impose a theocratic dogma as politics.

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On 3/7/2021 at 2:42 AM, Right To Left said:

Я не согласен с № 3, потому что не верю, что он пытается понять политику. Больше похоже на попытку навязать теократическую догму как политику.

 

you are probably talking about point 3, which my opponent wrote ...

I'm Jew, but Soviet Jew...

1. I am not interested in his opinion, since he does not have sufficient Education .. He does not even have money ... Besides, he's too young. In addition, he cannot read forum posts. now about me ...

2.  I was born and raised in the USSR, served in the border troops of the KGB of the USSR ...

3. I have Russian, Finnish and American Citizenship.

4. I am not afraid of either God or the Devil.

my real address [email protected] phone:

89773087075 Address:

Russia, Chigasovo Village, 15

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On 07.03.2021 at 02:39, Right To Left said:

Однако у реальности, кажется, аллергия на ссылки на исходный материал!

 

when, on the forum ...

a person cannot argue competently, then he begins to "grimace" ...

has your opponent started to grimace?

So he lost ..

dot.

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I stopped by today and saw this the topic is still alive (pardon the pun)
I have calculated that you should remain alive until your natural death (good/alive vs dead).  And even if you have the worst illnesses in the world you are still better off alive than dead.  

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11 hours ago, RB said:

I stopped by today and saw this the topic is still alive (pardon the pun)
I have calculated that you should remain alive until your natural death (good/alive vs dead).  And even if you have the worst illnesses in the world you are still better off alive than dead.  

I fully support your right to live and die by those words. 

I fully support the right of anyone else to not do so, and I fully support giving them the means to not do so if they want.

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Sometimes, looking into the meaning of life can be overwhelming. Look into the meaning of today or even the meaning of the current hour. Today I woke up to learn about cancers, since I hope to study a master in this field. I haven't figured out the meaning of my life (apart from having fun and being there for other humans (animals)) 

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I agree that people have many choices in life.  However good choices lead to good health, well-being, happiness etc - a reason to live. 

Not so good choices well lead to paths which "fully support the right of anyone else to not do so, and I fully support giving them the means to not do so if they want ".

What if I mentioned that people who have wishes to die are linked to many factors/symptoms and likely if people knew how to get out of their despair/pain/impulsiveness they really do not want to die - nearly all of the people. 

Weighing the pros and cons - it is better to be alive than not. 

I would point out to those reading here, to reach out to friends and trusted folks should you have some of these questions about life, and that there are always better life choices, things usually turn the corner.  (RB)

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6 hours ago, RB said:

I agree that people have many choices in life.  However good choices lead to good health, well-being, happiness etc - a reason to live. 

Not so good choices well lead to paths which "fully support the right of anyone else to not do so, and I fully support giving them the means to not do so if they want ".

What if I mentioned that people who have wishes to die are linked to many factors/symptoms and likely if people knew how to get out of their despair/pain/impulsiveness they really do not want to die - nearly all of the people. 

Weighing the pros and cons - it is better to be alive than not. 

I would point out to those reading here, to reach out to friends and trusted folks should you have some of these questions about life, and that there are always better life choices, things usually turn the corner.  (RB)

No, It's actually better to be dead.  Not only can nothing go wrong, but you don't miss anything you might if you were alive.

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The theory of evolution is one of the biggest frauds in the last 200 years.  If you want to know the why and how it is a false theory and what the implications of believing the theory of evolution or believing God are go to: 

Reformation Resources | Reformation International College

The theory of evolution is debunked by science.  Study the articles under the heading Scripture and Science.

God has a plan for you.  Life has a purpose.

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