Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Altai said: Wtf ? Can you enter a government offices without being searched ? or can you enter an airport without being searched in your "free" country ? Those are secure facilities. A hotel is not a secure facility. Ironically there was probably stiff security at the Concert. It would take the appearance of a VIP like the President to have all hotels within the sightline of the event to be checked. No one would tolerate such security measures for a simple Country Music festival. Edited October 3, 2017 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 59 minutes ago, Boges said: Those are secure facilities. A hotel is not a secure facility. Ironically there was probably stiff security at the Concert. It would take the appearance of a VIP like the President to have all hotels within the sightline of the event to be checked. No one would tolerate such security measures for a simple Country Music festival. Anywhere people are living have to be a secure facility or environment. Why an airport is a "secure" facility but an "hotel" is not a secure facility ? What is the logic behind it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Altai said: Anywhere people are living have to be a secure facility or environment. Why an airport is a "secure" facility but an "hotel" is not a secure facility ? What is the logic behind it ? An Airport is only a secure facility when you get to the part where you can get on airliners. Casinos can be very secure. But that's usually inorder to keep people from cheating the games. The hotel portion is different. You rent a room for privacy. People do drugs, hire prostitutes, shoot pornos, have illicit affiars and do all sorts of private sketchy behaviour in hotel rooms. This is also in Vegas where people go to let loose, so discretion is expected by the hotels. In Turkey, do you have to go through security screenings every time you enter a hotel room? If so, that's a shame, glad I don't live there. Edited October 3, 2017 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Boges said: An Airport is only a secure facility when you get to the part where you can get on airliners. Casinos can be very secure. But that's usually inorder to keep people from cheating the games. The hotel portion is different. You rent a room for privacy. People do drugs, hire prostitutes, shoot pornos, have illicit affiars and do all sorts of private sketchy behaviour in hotel rooms. This is also in Vegas where people go to let loose, so discretion is expected by the hotels. In Turkey, do you have to go through security screenings every time you enter a hotel room? If so, that's a shame, glad I don't live there. So in summary, you made a claim and could make a logical explanation. Thanks ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 9 hours ago, The_Squid said: Seems the best way to get a 2nd-Amendment-gun-lovin-country-music-playin' cowboy to say he wants gun control RIGHT NOW is to take a few shots at him..... changes his tune immediately! Funny that.... https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/10/2/16404900/josh-abbott-band-guitarist-caleb-keeter-las-vegas-shooting-gun-control A bunch of children murdered in a school didn't phase him.... I doubt it. Freedom isn't free. I think the idea that a crowd of people that may have been packing weapons could do nothing against a guy that clearly planned this attack meticulously may cause a moment of pause. But in reality what laws could prevent this? Guns are ingrained in the culture of the US. No number of gun deaths will cause for the change of laws. There's actually a phenomena called the Obama Bump, where his rhetoric towards gun control resulted in record gun sales. And I'm sure member BC2004 will tell you, that no amount of finger wagging from us here, will make Americans think control is the right path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 A van speeding down a street killed 86 in Nice. Ban vans? Van control? Limits on the number of gears forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 One thing is for sure...good thing his muffler needed patching. Can you imagine if the van was silenced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: A van speeding down a street killed 86 in Nice. Ban vans? Van control? Limits on the number of gears forward? Weeeelllllllll, you do see measures taken in public events to ensure that trucks and vans can't plow through crowds of people. I believe, I heard, on the news, that the festival had such measures. An argument can be made, that any gun that can be hacked to turn into a machine gun shouldn't be sold for public uses (because none of those uses are for the public good). But a large enough faction of Americans don't want to hear that. Edited October 3, 2017 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Perhaps they'll declare him a Trump Supporter...and that'll be that. Like our mosque shooter(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Perhaps they'll declare him a Trump Supporter...and that'll be that. Like our mosque shooter(s). As said already in the thread. Hard to convince people he's a Trump supporter while shooting up Country Music fans. Does make fodder for the Alex Jones' of the World and their False Flag allegations. Edited October 3, 2017 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: As said already in the thread. Hard to convince people he's a Trump supporter while shooting up Country Music fans. Do make fodder for the Alex Jones' of the World and their False Flag allegations. I'll fodder what I damn choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 The guy wanted to get his name in the history-books. That appears to be the main motive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, -TSS- said: The guy wanted to get his name in the history-books. That appears to be the main motive. Forgotten within a few months by all but the victims' families. What was the name of the sniper who started it all, in the Texas university tower shooting back in the sixties? Nobody knows or cares without looking it up. Few could name the guy who killed children in Sandy Hook elementary, or the guy who slaughtered people at a McDonalds in California. You're not remembered by doing something like this. You get a name, not in the history books, but on internet pages about psychos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Argus said: Forgotten within a few months by all but the victims' families. What was the name of the sniper who started it all, in the Texas university tower shooting back in the sixties? Nobody knows or cares without looking it up. Few could name the guy who killed children in Sandy Hook elementary, or the guy who slaughtered people at a McDonalds in California. You're not remembered by doing something like this. You get a name, not in the history books, but on internet pages about psychos. Trying to make a rational argument to counter the mindset of a dude that would do this. I think everyone knows the Montreal massacre shooters name. I'll remember the Columbine shooters names. There's notoriety in mass killing. True Crime shows are very popular. Edited October 4, 2017 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 The attacker shots at people for 10 minutes and stays in room for about 1 hours. They first said that the attacker have been neutralized and then they said he shot himself. Then ISIS said they did it, FBI said no you did not, ISIS said really we did it and FBI said nooopeeee you did nooootttt. Shortly after Las Vegas attack, another terror attack attempt in London metro station was prevented and NO news about it. Its quite suspicious that US and Britain keeps shooting each other using some fabricated terror organization names or "lone wolf" names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) LoL Turkish newspaper prepares a funny video detects reactions over Vegas attack this faceshttps://twitter.com/trtworld/status/915252620138180608 Edited October 4, 2017 by Altai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Altai said: The attacker shots at people for 10 minutes and stays in room for about 1 hours. They first said that the attacker have been neutralized and then they said he shot himself. Then ISIS said they did it, FBI said no you did not, ISIS said really we did it and FBI said nooopeeee you did nooootttt. Because there's no evidence he was radicalized other than the ravings of ISIS. I'm sure ISIS would love to take credit for all forms of terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Britain still did not condemn the attack Britain prime minister made a speech about the attack but just touched to individual armament. There is no pistol found in the attacker's room, so is that mean he shot himself with a big rifle ? The attacker appearently was not alone in his room because he orders food and drinks as much as 2 or 3 people can eat. So its quite possible that he was not alone, its possible that there were "at least" 1 or 2 other persons with him. By the way, there should be security cams in hotel hallways and therefore we can know who enters his room but probably there is no such cams in such a big hotel, interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Altai said: There is no pistol found in the attacker's room, so is that mean he shot himself with a big rifle ? Here the pistol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I am curious where Alex Jones and those who try to blame everything and everyone else, besides the obvious, is taking this story. - Mind control? - ISIS agent? - Lizard people? - The Koran and Sharia? I don't have the energy to open the door to that world right now. I'm sure it's buzzing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Hudson Jones said: I am curious where Alex Jones and those who try to blame everything and everyone else, besides the obvious, is taking this story. - Mind control? - ISIS agent? - Lizard people? - The Koran and Sharia? I don't have the energy to open the door to that world right now. I'm sure it's buzzing. I believe he thinks it's a False Flag Operation. LOL at anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 On 10/3/2017 at 7:18 AM, DogOnPorch said: A van speeding down a street killed 86 in Nice. Ban vans? Van control? Limits on the number of gears forward? Ever heard of a place called Canada? They have gun laws there. They don't have these kind of mass shootings on a regular basis. But you're free to try to ban vans if you like. It will give you a project to keep you busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 It appears he was a wealthy man but I havent noticed any details as to where his wealth had come from. Apparently nothing political about the deed; an old man feeling sense of meaninglessness and willingness to show he can do what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Regarding the title of the thread: What does Britain have to do with the Las Vegas-shootings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, -TSS- said: Regarding the title of the thread: What does Britain have to do with the Las Vegas-shootings? You should pay tax for each breath you take in the atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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