The Battle of Charlottesville

[Wilber]

18 minutes ago, betsy said:

I don't know who really organized the unite-the-right rally.   Heck, even Trump's campaign rally was being linked to Supremacists! 

Jason Kessler

 

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Nevertheless, there's nothing wrong about the name of the rally.

Nothing wrong with a lot of names, until you put them in the context of how they are actually being used.

[betsy]

9 minutes ago, taxme said:

I agree. It is strange how communism is quite acceptable by most people these days in North America and else but Nazism was somehow all bad which it was not. The Nazi's never murdered their own people by the millions like the communists did. They obviously have not read anything about all the misery and murdering that the communist dictators inflicted on their people. I guess the reason for that is that the rulers of the world don't want the people to learn all about communism and the atrocities committed by communists. The left is full of brainless twits. 

 

Uh......we differ with Nazism.    In my books, it's right up there with Communism -  evil.

I suppose Nazism is to extreme right as Communism is to extreme left.

Edited August 15, 2017 by betsy

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Wilber said:

It doesn't surprise me that blacks owned slaves, slavery certainly wasn't unknown in Africa. In the US south it was only racial for whites however. I'm sure Ellison would have happily owned white slaves if it had been legal. Business is business after all.

Yup, the liberal fake and phony lying media never get tired of pointing out that white people were the only people on earth that owned slaves but never talk about black Africans or Arabs who owned slaves.  All the problems in the world today are always just the white mans fault. It's like whites invented slavery. Even today in some African countries slavery still exists.

So just where and why is the lying media never trying to bring this up and pointing this out? Pathetic bull chit.  

[betsy]

8 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Jason Kessler

 

Nothing wrong with a lot of names, until you put them in the context of how they are actually being used.

 

A lot of people joining protests for their own reasons.  Look at the pink protest of women - they all have their own personal reasons for joining.

The last I look at the explanation as to what White Nationalism is all about - I don't see anything wrong about it.

Edited August 15, 2017 by betsy

[DogOnPorch]

10 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

Uh......we differ with Nazism.    In my books, it's right up there with Communism -  evil.

I suppose Nazism is to extreme right as Communism is to extreme left.

 

Nazi = National SOCIALIST...

[taxme]

3 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

Uh......we differ with Nazism.    In my books, it's right up there with Communism -  evil.

I suppose Nazism is to extreme right as Communism is to extreme left.

Nazi's and communists despised each other. I often wonder what the world would have been like if the Nazi's had won the war?  If communism had been defeated, I think that all of those people and countries that had to live under the tyranny of communism after the war would not have happened. All those innocent victims of communism would not have had to endure a life misery and murder for all those decades. But I guess we will never know now, will we? 

[Wilber]

5 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

A lot of people joining protests for their own reasons.  Look at the pink protest of women - they all have their own personal reasons for joining.

The last I look at the explanation as to what White Nationalism is all about - I don't see anything wrong about it.

White nationalist want to divide people on racial grounds. If you ain't white, you ain't a real American and never can be.

As far as names go, "Residential School" could easily mean an high tone private school that cost $20K a year, unless you take into account what it really meant.

 

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Whoever can conquer the street will one day conquer the state, for every form of power politics and any dictatorship-run state has its roots in the street.

Joseph Goebbels

 

[taxme]

6 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

A lot of people joining protests for their own reasons.  Look at the pink protest of women - they all have their own personal reasons for joining.

The last I look at the explanation as to what White Nationalism is all about - I don't see anything wrong about it.

There is nothing wrong with white nationalism at all. There is black nationalism, Jewish nationalism, Latino nationalism, and the politicians and the stupid and useless left wing liberal media have no problem with it.When they demonstrate Soros and his thugs don't show up. Why is that? The only time the Soros thugs show up is when some white nationalist group decides to have a rally. Then as we saw all hell broke lose. But try and get that thru some of these liberal people's heads these days is truly an exercise in futility.  White people are all bad according to the corporate owned globalist elite media whom it would appear hate white nationalists. Nationalists must be a threat to them. That is great because that is good for we the people, and not so great for the globalists. Boo-hoo. 

[LonJowett]

13 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Nazi = National SOCIALIST...

That's always a convincing argument to people who have never read anything about what the Nazis stood for and who their enemies were.

[Argus]

Know who else the Left considers a racist white supremacist? Theodore Roosevelt. They want his statue taken down. There's just no end to the idiocy of the left and their demands to erase history that offends their delicate sensibilities.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/11/museum-natural-history-theodore-roosevelt-statue-protest

And of course, in Canada we have more morons from the Left demanding the statue of Edward Cornwallis, who founded Halifax be taken down in Halifax because apparently he didn't like natives who attacked his people.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/cornwallis-statue-halifax-protest-removal-1.4206909

The Left seems to despise our history and everything about Canada. I don't know why they don't just all leave, maybe live in Iran or Nigeria, where they'd be so much more content.

[LonJowett]

26 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

Uh......we differ with Nazism.    In my books, it's right up there with Communism -  evil.

I suppose Nazism is to extreme right as Communism is to extreme left.

The inherent evil of Nazism was not its economic policy but its theories of racial superiority and practice of genocide, which was built right into its philosophy.

What do you find inherently evil about communism (i.e., not Stalin or Castro other pretend communists, but the political theory of Marxism/communism)?

[Altai]

14 hours ago, Altai said:

Okay now US trying to remove an old British commander's statue from somewheres where the violent protests happens. Then some racists (probably pro-Britain guys) held a protests and attacks around and one of them crashes people by car. Who is this person crash people, does he have a British root in his family tree ? I also remember that Britain said they cut the intelligence partnership with US when a terror attack was happened in Britain, they said US didnt warn them despite US knew more details. So US prepared some attacks in London brindge, and I remember a building was burned. Then a US copter crashed and many Us soldiers died and I remember another US copter crashed at Australia (another British colony). 


Now US may want to assassinate some British diplomats as a response to Charlottesville riots. Maybe France involves in the events to provoke African-American people as they did in Ferguson events which was a response for Charlie Hebdo. etc etc etc...


I am teaching you how to look at the events. 

 

14 hours ago, Altai said:

Oh by the way, yesterday a restaurant and hotel was attacked in Burkina Faso, 17 people murdered including some Canadians and 1 Turkish guy. So this was another response by US. Why it was Burkina Faso, because its a France colony. The restaurant was belong to Turks, hotel was belong to French. Turkiye and France is working together in some points against US and US is disturbed by it.

 

12 hours ago, Altai said:

 

Another attack done in France yesterday. A car crashed into a restaurant. Killed a kid and wounded 12 others. According to the claims the driver had no history with intelligence.

President Erdogan made a phone conversation with France's represantive Marcon.

[drummindiver]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Their core ideas were adapted into Western society because they were essentially economic.  The alt right ideas are all discredited racial purity nonsense that doesn't make a viable society.

Yes, we adopted communist economic ideals cause they worked so well......wtf?

Their other core beliefs were killing hundreds of millions of people who disagreed with their opinion. Many MLWERS fit that category and have screamed for people with opposing views to be "stomped out". 

 

[Wilber]

51 minutes ago, taxme said:

Yup, the liberal fake and phony lying media never get tired of pointing out that white people were the only people on earth that owned slaves but never talk about black Africans or Arabs who owned slaves.  All the problems in the world today are always just the white mans fault. It's like whites invented slavery. Even today in some African countries slavery still exists.

So just where and why is the lying media never trying to bring this up and pointing this out? Pathetic bull chit.  

Whites maintained slavery on racial lines. Others weren't so racist.

[drummindiver]

5 hours ago, Argus said:

Their core ideas involved nationalizing all goods and services. No private property. No democracy. State control over everything. No, they were not adopted into western society. Inherent within Communist belief is that 'the people' as represented by the State, of course, will make all decisions for the good of the people "the state' without regard to the well-being of individuals. 

For the greater good.

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, LonJowett said:

That's always a convincing argument to people who have never read anything about what the Nazis stood for and who their enemies were.

 

Why don't you explain slowly to this poor unread pleb how National Socialism isn't just another form of Socialism?

Edited August 15, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[DogOnPorch]

58 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Whites maintained slavery on racial lines. Others weren't so racist.

 

Pardon? Do you realize what the Arabic word for slave is the same as black?

Edited August 15, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[betsy]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Nazi's and communists despised each other. I often wonder what the world would have been like if the Nazi's had won the war?  If communism had been defeated, I think that all of those people and countries that had to live under the tyranny of communism after the war would not have happened. All those innocent victims of communism would not have had to endure a life misery and murder for all those decades. But I guess we will never know now, will we? 

Either way - it's tyranny.  They're both evil.  Nazis killed their own, too - those that didn't measure up - like the mentally and physically handicapped that are "useless" to society.  They called it  T-4 or "euthanasia."

 

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The "euthanasia" program required the cooperation of many German doctors, who reviewed the medical files of patients in institutions to determine which handicapped or mentally ill individuals should be killed. The doctors also supervised the actual killings. Doomed patients were transferred to six institutions in Germany and Austria, where they were killed in specially constructed gas chambers. Handicapped infants and small children were also killed by injection with a deadly dose of drugs or by starvation. The bodies of the victims were burned in large ovens called crematoria.

Despite public protests in 1941, the Nazi leadership continued this program in secret throughout the war. About 200,000 handicapped people were murdered between 1940 and 1945.

 

The T-4 program became the model for the mass murder of Jews, Roma (Gypsies), and others in camps equipped with gas chambers that the Nazis would open in 1941 and 1942. The program also served as a training ground for SS members who manned these camps.

 

https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007683

Edited August 15, 2017 by betsy

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, betsy said:

Either way - it's tyranny.  They're both evil.  Nazis killed their own, too - those that didn't measure up - like the mentally and physically handicapped that are "useless" to society.  They called it "euthanasia."

 

 

Yes...it's like asking: Which rooster do you like in the cock-fight?

That you don't like cock-fights to start with doesn't enter into the equation with these folks.

Edited August 15, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[betsy]

Hurray for Trump!  Just saw the latest news conference.  He explicitly explained that both sides displayed violence.  He called the media, dishonest!   That's a fact! Only the willfully blind - and dishonest -  would point a finger on only one group.

The alt left are so comfy with  telling lies! 

 

Well....according to Trump,  the alt left did not have a permit to be there! So, there you go!  They're the trouble-makers.

Edited August 15, 2017 by betsy

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

You watch and read to much fake and phony lying liberal media bull chit. 

No, you have posted crackpot blogs just as Mr. Canada did.  Anonymous bogey-men and Jews are behind it all, got it.

What kind of person bases his life around racist articles written by anonymous bloggers and crackpots?

Go sell your snake oil racism to some other sucker.  Your sales pitch was boring and transparent when it was first heard in the beer halls in the 1930s.

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

No, you have posted crackpot blogs just as Mr. Canada did.  Anonymous bogey-men and Jews are behind it all, got it.

What kind of person bases his life around racist articles written by anonymous bloggers and crackpots?

Go sell your snake oil racism to some other sucker.  Your sales pitch was boring and transparent when it was first heard in the beer halls in the 1930s.

 

1920s

[Wilber]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Pardon? Do you realize what the Arabic word for slave is the same as black?

Even so, they weren't picky. Arabs raided for slaves as far north as Ireland. Many white Christians could be found chained to the benches of their galleys.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Wilber said:

Even so, they weren't picky. Arabs raided for slaves as far north as Ireland. Many white Christians could be found chained to the benches of their galleys.

 

And you think the Arabs were't racist? Okay, Mallone.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, drummindiver said:

1. Yes, we adopted communist economic ideals cause they worked so well......wtf?

2. Their other core beliefs were killing hundreds of millions of people who disagreed with their opinion.

3. ManyMLWERS fit that category and have screamed for people with opposing views to be "stomped out". 

 

1. Read up on the 1930s.

2. No, it's not a core belief of socialism.

3. Not people, ideas.  If you advocate for violence against a member of MLW the moderators could ban you permanently.