Trudeau and His Welcome Mat

[betsy]

Trudeau puffed up before the world, and showed himself the opposite of the globally "unpopular" Trump.  There's no denying that he was craving the compliments and accolade - thinking that it puts him before the world stage as an excellent example of a world leader (thanks to the urgings of Obama/Biden and Merkel). 

So Justin spread out the welcome mat, through his tweet (after Trump issued the travel ban),  and on-stage during Canada Day celebration.  And now, Haitians (and others), are pouring into Canada.  What Trudeau neglected to point out  was the "fine print."   It isn't as easy as you think. 

According to a lawyer for Haitian asylum-seekers......

If you hadn't applied refugee status in the first safe country you landed on (USA), you are automatically unqualified to apply for asylum in Canada. By coming to Canada, you just barred yourself from getting any asylum!

 

In other words, if Canada follows the rule,  these poor folks are all out of luck.  Thanks to Trudeau.  Will they be able to go back to the USA?  I don't know.

 

Our news channels are saying that a lot of Haitians are coming here primarily due to the invitation that Trudeau had issued. 

Despite that.........

Did Justin Trudeau ever come out - issue a public statement - to clear things up for other would-be refugees?  I haven't heard anything from him.  Have you?

 

Put yourself in Trudeau's shoes.  After all that chest-puffing, how can he pull the plug now?  He'll lose face before the whole wide world if he goes back on his word.  It'll make him look so foolish if he comes out now saying, "Uh, about the invitation to all........uh, not everyone is actually guaranteed to be made welcome.  Uh.....I forgot to say....uh......that there's......uhh......some caveat to the invitation."

 

I'm betting, come hell or high water............we'll just have to welcome everyone. 

 

 

 

Edited August 12, 2017 by betsy

[August1991]

16 hours ago, betsy said:

.....

So Justin spread out the welcome mat, through his tweet (after Trump issued the travel ban),  and on-stage during Canada Day celebration.  And now, Haitians (and others), are pouring into Canada.  What Trudeau neglected to point out  was the "fine print."   It isn't as easy as you think. 

According to a lawyer for Haitian asylum-seekers......

If you hadn't applied refugee status in the first safe country you landed on (USA), you are automatically unqualified to apply for asylum in Canada. By coming to Canada, you just barred yourself from getting any asylum!

 

In other words, if Canada follows the rule,  these poor folks are all out of luck.  Thanks to Trudeau.  Will they be able to go back to the USA?  I don't know.

....

 

 

I  just don't know.

Like Norwegians, we Canadians talk about sharing. 

[PIK]

Trudeau must resign, for the sake of the country.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, PIK said:

Trudeau must resign, for the sake of the country.

I'm willing to bet he doesn't see it that way.

[Rue]

On ‎2017‎-‎08‎-‎13 at 2:14 AM, August1991 said:

 

 

I  just don't know.

Like Norwegians, we Canadians talk about sharing. 

What does that mean? Which Canadians do you refer to and what are they talking about let alone talking about sharing.

The only time I hear any Canadian talk about sharing, its some jack off Liberals on this forum talking about sharing things that don't come from them personally.

Jack off Liberals love to discuss sharing as long as its not their own property or money being shared.

Its classic Liberal Jack off masturbation for a Justin Trudeau to offer up Canada-it doesn't cost Justin a damn penny. Justin's trust fund won't be impacted and neither will his lifestyle. No one is asking Justin to pay personally for anyone or anything.

Get back to me in twenty years when Mustafa  wants to marry his daughter and we shall see how Liberal he is.

We. Yah right. There's no we. That is an illusion created by narcissist Liberals to fuel adoring masses to  ome kiss their feet at photo ops.

You don't know, I do. The person who owns the club may change but the rules stay the same. Sharing my ass. You need some waiters to work in the club's dining room.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Rue

[taxme]

On 8/12/2017 at 11:14 PM, August1991 said:

 

 

I  just don't know.

Like Norwegians, we Canadians talk about sharing. 

Ya, like sharing what little Canada has left, and giving it away to people who have nothing. What a great deal for the nothings. Canadians lose again, as usual. Canadians, like Norwegians, are natural born suckers for all the world to take advantage of and made fools of, thanks to our stupid politically correct politicians who still act like a bunch of useless morons. What more can be said.  

[taxme]

3 hours ago, PIK said:

Trudeau must resign, for the sake of the country.

Trudeau is a fool, and like a fool they never know when to quit. They just continue to keep kicking themselves in the azz. The guy is a feminist liberal from Quebec, and that says it all. 

[DogOnPorch]

Well, JT talks about boosting Canada's population to 100 million...I doubt they'll be speaking English or French. That replaces everybody currently here with 3 lovely 3rd Worlders...probably from the death cult called Islam that hates everything West.

Try 'n out-breed 'em...jus' try.

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, taxme said:

Ya, like sharing what little Canada has left, and giving it away to people who have nothing. What a great deal for the nothings. Canadians lose again, as usual. Canadians, like Norwegians, are natural born suckers for all the world to take advantage of and made fools of, thanks to our stupid politically correct politicians who still act like a bunch of useless morons. What more can be said.  

I don't know, in any case I doubt you'll ever stop saying it.

[taxme]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Well, JT talks about boosting Canada's population to 100 million...I doubt they'll be speaking English or French. That replaces everybody currently here with 3 lovely 3rd Worlders...probably from the death cult called Islam that hates everything West.

Try 'n out-breed 'em...jus' try.

Another 65 million more from the 3rd world should do the trick of finishing off Canada for sure. Canada as we all once knew will soon be gone, and the majority of Canadians don't appear to care one way of the other. They went and voted for JT, and his merry band of liberal destroyers and that says it all. Our western Caucasian way of life and values, as in Europe, are slowly being drained away today and is now being replaced by the third world people of other countries who could careless about Canada or it's present day culture and traditions. Those 3rd worlders only want to come to Canada for the freebies that Canada has to offer. My grandchildren will be slaves to those people one day, and so will your grandchildren be also. Canadians appear to hate who they are, and their culture and traditions, and appear to want to replace all that they presently say they love and care and enjoy about Canada. Canadians will reap what they have sown one day, and they ain't going to like it. Well our grandchildren are not going to like it. But hey, if this is what Canadians want, then they shall get it. So long old Canada. 

[taxme]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I don't know, in any case I doubt you'll ever stop saying it.

Get your head out of the sand and wake up, for gawds sake. If it's true that the kid wants to bring in another 65 million, no doubt from the 3rd world, to get us up to a 100 million, then Canada as we all know it today is finished. Liberalism and liberals themselves appear to have gone insane over what they are trying to do to Canada and Canadians. This feminist dictator is a total screwball. He needs to be ousted before he and his liberals can continue on their merry way to try and destroy this nation and sink it even further into a 3rd world swamp. I am pretty sure that 99.9% of Canadians would never want to go live in some 3rd world hell hole, so why do they want to bring that hell hole to Canada?  Canadians are on the road to genocide, but no one really seems to care. Rather they seem to want to assist in this genocide. Aw well. What more can be said. 

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

Smart immigration is fine. This country was built on immigration and by immigrants and need immigrants. I am an immigrant myself. I am willing to share but share with those who are willing to share as well not some incompatible individuals from third world with no education and no skills. Also the number must be set so that they can be absorbed within a country of only 35 million (about 100 to 150 thousand) without jamming our health and education systems and putting citizens born or raise here at risk.

Edited August 14, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[eyeball]

29 minutes ago, taxme said:

Canada as we all know it today is finished.

 

The Canada we all thought existed has been a sham since day one. I wouldn't give the Canada you imagine the shit off my boot.

[taxme]

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The Canada we all thought existed has been a sham since day one. I wouldn't give the Canada you imagine the shit off my boot.

Canada was once a great waspish nation. And now it will soon become a third world ghettoe hell hole where the poor will inherit Canada. Then what will you do?  You probably won't be able to find clean water to clean the shit off your boots. I can say that the way I feel today, I would not give the shit off my boots to this Canada today. Shit is everywhere now. But hey.  

[CITIZEN_2015]

17 minutes ago, taxme said:

I would not give the shit off my boots to this Canada today. Shit is everywhere now. But hey.  

Why is that? Spell it out. Is that because there are about a quarter colored people in Canada? Or you think that because you feel 5% Muslim population? 80% while Caucasian is not white enough for you? Or is there another reason you are so insulting to Canada which is likely your country of citizenship.

[taxme]

3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Why is that? Spell it out. Is that because there are about a quarter colored people in Canada? Or you think that because you feel 5% Muslim population? 80% while Caucasian is not white enough for you? Or is there another reason you are so insulting to Canada which is likely your country of citizenship.

I am just another Canadian patriot who is just trying to save Canada from becoming a third world hell hole if our present day immigration policy is not changed for the better. Our Canadian culture and traditions are slowly being eroded and drained, and being replaced with too many other cultures, traditions, religions and languages. Canada is now catering to all of those different cultures and languages just to please them and make them feel like they are back from whence they came. They are all bringing in their third world nonsense with them, and host Canadians are paying for it. This is genocidal madness. You need to do a lot ore reading rather than keep listening to what the fake and phony liberal media and the liberals themselves are telling you. Liberals have no morals or principles. They are destroyers of cultures, and Canada is on that list to be destroyed of everything it once believed in. This has nothing to do with racism at all. Only the ill informed will try to make it appear as though it is racist. They can get lost.   

[CITIZEN_2015]

But you used present tense in your post which I partly quoted. Not future tense. Why is it like the way you described it now and today?

1 hour ago, taxme said:

 I can say that the way I feel today, I would not give the shit off my boots to this Canada today. Shit is everywhere now. But hey.  

 

Edited August 14, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

37 minutes ago, taxme said:

This has nothing to do with racism at all. Only the ill informed will try to make it appear as though it is racist. They can get lost.   

So if highly educated and skilled colored people and/or highly educated skilled Muslims with total cultural compatibility in both cases wanting to immigrate to Canada and become doctors and engineers and help build Canada and help Canadians and become heavy tax payers for life (or the 30 years they will work) you d not have any objection to their immigration, right? If you do make it clear why?

[taxme]

10 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

But you used present tense in your post which I partly quoted. Not future tense. Why is it like the way you described it now and today?

 

Get a life will you. If you cannot figure out as to what is being said then go away. Today is today, and tomorrow will be the next day. Does that work out right for you?  

[taxme]

10 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

So if highly educated and skilled colored people and/or highly educated skilled Muslims with total cultural compatibility in both cases wanting to immigrate to Canada and become doctors and engineers and help build Canada and help Canadians and become heavy tax payers for life (or the 30 years they will work) you d not have any objection to their immigration, right? If you do make it clear why?

Like I have said millions of times here I have nothing against immigration and where immigrants are coming from. The problem I am having is with criminal illegals being allowed to cross into Canada and being taken to tents where they will have to go thru the immigration process for months or maybe years as to whether they will be allowed to stay here or not, and all at the Canadian taxpayer's expense. They have no rights to anything because they have already committed a crime against a Canadian law, and they should be taken to an airport and quickly sent back to where they came from with a bagged lunch from McDonald's. How generous of me. 

I also have also said many times that I am against this present day immigration policy of ours which is bringing in approx. 80% of it's new immigrants from non-white countries while only allowing in approx. 20% of white immigrants into Canada every year. The color and make up of Canada is fast being changed and is becoming a more non-white looking country every day. This is not acceptable. Our majority of new immigrants should be immigrating from our past sources of immigrants which were then coming from Britain, Europe and Australia. 

Now have I made myself perfectly clear to you? 

[CITIZEN_2015]

52 minutes ago, taxme said:

 

I also have also said many times that I am against this present day immigration policy of ours which is bringing in approx. 80% of it's new immigrants from non-white countries while only allowing in approx. 20% of white immigrants into Canada every year. The color and make up of Canada is fast being changed and is becoming a more non-white looking country every day. This is not acceptable. Our majority of new immigrants should be immigrating from our past sources of immigrants which were then coming from Britain, Europe and Australia. 

Now have I made myself perfectly clear to you? 

Yes perfectly clear. You want immigrants as long as they are white immigrants. And then you claimed you are not racist!!!!!!. The ratio is right though as only 20% of world population is white and about 80% non-white.

[Michael Hardner]

This is the strange racist snowflake paradox.  That is, the two things that they hate most, in order, are being people and being called racist.

[taxme]

10 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Yes perfectly clear. You want immigrants as long as they are white immigrants. And then you claimed you are not racist!!!!!!. The ratio is right though as only 20% of world population is white and about 80% non-white.

I do not want Canada to start looking like the third world. Canada is majority Caucasian. Why must or should that change for the likes of people like you? If the present day immigration policy continues Canada as we know it today will change from it's present Caucasian majority population to a nonwhite majority population in the next few decades. Only stunned liberal and conservatives and non-whites appear to want this to happen. All you have to do is go to many of the non-white countries around the world to see that their way of life and values totally conflict with our ways and values. Ways and values that I am pretty sure that you would not want to live in. 

So tell me, where would you rather live? In Canada, Britain or some European Caucasian country or live in some non-Caucasian countries like Africa, China, India, Pakistan or the Middle East? Would you like to live in poor countries or countries always in turmoil or countries that do not have all the benefits that Canadians receive from their taxes? Or live in those other countries mentioned where life is truly a struggle to try and survive? I live in Canada where I am living a pretty good and peaceful life where poverty and no turmoil exists. I want to keep it that way. One does not have to be deemed to be a racist just for wanting to keep his/her country as it is. 

So, be honest here. Where would you prefer to live? Over to you. 

[taxme]

9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

This is the strange racist snowflake paradox.  That is, the two things that they hate most, in order, are being people and being called racist.

According to your way of thinking(which always appears weird to me)is that everything is a strange paradox to you when you have a problem as to not understanding as to what is being said. I must say that you do enjoy trying to make mountains out of mole hills, uhmm?  But that is just you, eh?  

Let's face it. You have no problem if Canada sinks into a third world hell hole one day, and have no problem with other cultures from other countries dictating to host Canadians as to how they want things done in Canada today, do you? You appear to be quite happy with Muslims taking over school lunch rooms so they can pray to Allah. Or Canadian men being denied access to their swimming pool that they paid for and pay for the upkeep and then kept out for a few hours so Muslim women can have a swim with no men around. Or someone getting sued for walking on some Muslims carpet with their shoes on. Want more? Are you happy with sharia law slowly creeping into Canada? In my opinion you are not anywhere near a true patriotic Canadian at all. You appear to be more like one of those pro new world order types that have no loyalty to their country and do not believe in nationalism.

But hey, that is just you, eh? 

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

I do not want Canada to start looking like the third world. Canada is majority Caucasian. Why must or should that change for the likes of people like you? If the present day immigration policy continues Canada as we know it today will change from it's present Caucasian majority population to a nonwhite majority population in the next few decades. Only stunned liberal and conservatives and non-whites appear to want this to happen. All you have to do is go to many of the non-white countries around the world to see that their way of life and values totally conflict with our ways and values. Ways and values that I am pretty sure that you would not want to live in. 

So tell me, where would you rather live? In Canada, Britain or some European Caucasian country or live in some non-Caucasian countries like Africa, China, India, Pakistan or the Middle East? Would you like to live in poor countries or countries always in turmoil or countries that do not have all the benefits that Canadians receive from their taxes? Or live in those other countries mentioned where life is truly a struggle to try and survive? I live in Canada where I am living a pretty good and peaceful life where poverty and no turmoil exists. I want to keep it that way. One does not have to be deemed to be a racist just for wanting to keep his/her country as it is. 

So, be honest here. Where would you prefer to live? Over to you. 

I think you are asking a question that you know the answer already. I have proven to prefer to live here in Canada because as I have mentioned many times I am an immigrant (citizen for decades) so why you ask the obvious. That said the reason for my immigration was not because Canada is a white majority but because my qualifications was a better fit to the Hi Tech industry here when I graduated with highest degree I decided to apply for permanent stay. Also of course because Canada is one of the best countries in the world and it is not only the 70-80% Caucasian who made it best but all the white and non-whites working together to make it the best country to live in. And yes there are many skilled, highly educated good hearted people in third world countries too (and some are third world countries because they were exploited by first world like the US, Russia and Britain and France) who can come here and contribute and yes they may have colored skin.

We should be admitting those people who make Canada better not worse. We do not make Canada a third world country simply because we admit people from third world countries we must SELECT their best citizens regardless of skin color and bring them over. We are not selective enough though. I love to see variiety. White only face becomes boring after a while I like to see a cute Chinese or dark Filipinos or cute Hispanic, or cute middle eastern (with or without hijab) or sexy African faces as well and try the Italian, Chinese or Mexican or Greek or Lebanese food to everyday Cheese Burger and fries for God"s sake. You get my point? Diversity is  PLUS not a minus.

I do agree that we must be selective in our immigration policy and I have said it before many times that I don't agree with current immigration policies in which too many are admitted (at the rate of 300,000 a year this country will be swallowed by people of various incompatible cultures in a few decades) and some are culturally incompatible and lacking skills and education. I guess what is different between you and me (though we both may be aiming for the same goal believe it or not, in spite of our wide differences of opinion) is that I say that our immigration policy should be based on admitting those who skillful and are culturally compatible and you are saying that immigration has to be based on color of skin and that skin has to be white. I say a progressive Muslim (or a non-religious Muslim who believes in everything Canadians do) or a skilled educated respectful African who wishes to start a life and contribute to Canada must be given equal consideration and a chance regardless of his original religion or skin color but you prefer the unemployed or no-good without skill Caucasians simply because they have white skin to come here instead. And for the record my skin is the whitest among all the whites I have come across in my life so don't accuse me of looking after my own (non-whites).

Edited August 15, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015