Compensating Khadr

[PIK]

So Now I hear some guy that was in gitmo is now suing us for 50m, and will settle for 10.5. Trudeau will be paying off these people forever. 

[hot enough]

23 minutes ago, PIK said:

So Now I hear some guy that was in gitmo is now suing us for 50m, and will settle for 10.5. Trudeau will be paying off these people forever. 

As Noam Chomsky says, there is an easy way to stop terrorism; 

"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it." 

For the west, that means stop supporting the world's leading terrorist group/nation, by a planetary mile, the US of A. 

These people are Canadian citizens who have been brutalized by, you all so conveniently forget and ignore, the war criminals/terrorists who illegally invaded many sovereign nations.

[PIK]

23 hours ago, hot enough said:

As Noam Chomsky says, there is an easy way to stop terrorism; 

"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it." 

For the west, that means stop supporting the world's leading terrorist group/nation, by a planetary mile, the US of A. 

These people are Canadian citizens who have been brutalized by, you all so conveniently forget and ignore, the war criminals/terrorists who illegally invaded many sovereign nations.

They are actually people from somewhere else that received a canadian citizenship out of a cracker jack box and then went back home and got into trouble knowing canada will bail them out. That is not what being a canadian is all about. 

[hot enough]

16 minutes ago, PIK said:

They are actually people from somewhere else that received a canadian citizenship out of a cracker jack box and then went back home and got into trouble knowing canada will bail them out. That is not what being a canadian is all about. 

It seems being a Canadian has a lot to do with being fluent in "oh look over there, a squirrel!"

[PIK]

31 minutes ago, hot enough said:

It seems being a Canadian has a lot to do with being fluent in "oh look over there, a squirrel!"

Being canadian is a lot more than owning a piece of paper.There is a reason why this country is one of the greatest and it has nothing to do with Islam. Sorry but Islam is a disease that needs to be taken care of.

[hot enough]

Your replies don't in any way, shape or form deal with facts, PIK. 

Great countries don't commit centuries long genocides. 

[PIK]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

Your replies don't in any way, shape or form deal with facts, PIK. 

Great countries don't commit centuries long genocides. 

We are a century and a half, not centuries. And let's look at your favourite countries and what they have done in the last 1000. It must just piss you off, that you would love to see this country brought down to your levels.

[Rue]

Again we see how Hot Enough has tried to hijack this thread to discuss his disjointed, simplistic one trick mantra of pissing on the US, period. His posts are indistinguishable no matter what the subject of the thread is.

Getting back to the actual thread topic I do remember Omni for many posts claiming how Trudeau saved us all money by settling with Kadr. Omni could not fathom by not referring the matter to the Supreme Court of Canada to determine if the dirty hands doctrine applied, Trudeau has now put down a precedent of paying off people millions and so in the last 5 months like moths to flies we now have people lining up asking for multi-millions in settlements for violations of their rights.

Next is Djamel Ameziane.  He claims Canadian officials  helped Americans. Ameziane was in Gitmo 11 years. He was released in 2013. He lived in Montreal in the 1990's for 5 years and was denied refugee status. Then he moved on to  other countries. He was never born in Canada nor a citizen of Canada but hey he's now suing us $50 million and he openly stated he's suing us because the Kadr case says he can. Is he suing the US or anyone else? Of course not. Aside from Omni and the Liberals who did not see this coming or the others now suing this country? How could Trudeau or Omni not understand what it means to not test the dirty hands doctrine and set a precedent this country pays people like Kadr and Ameziane.

Ameziane is laughing his butt off and has a FREE lawyer working on contingency basis.

Oh how's this for Islamophobia....when in Montreal he attended the same mosque as am Al Quaida cell which is why Canada notified the Americans of that fact after he left Canada.

 

Yah that's worth 50 million.

[Thinkinoutsidethebox]

Rue, that might be "moths to light" or "flies to a pile of sh1t" but you're 100% correct, this is like every other scam to make easy money. Heck, it's cheaper then buying a lottery ticket and the odds of winning are way higher. 

Canada is becoming the new US as far as law suits are concerned... Except the government is just giving it away. 

I'm pretty sure my rights have been violated one way or another... Gotta be worth at least 50 mil. 

Edited November 9, 2017 by Thinkinoutsidethebox

[Jariax]

Soldiers don't really have a sense of what they are signing up for. The chance of dying isn't that much greater than many other occupations in Canada - ie heli logging etc. The difference is that they're likely to be traumatized through seeing their friends killed or maimed, as well as being in a state of constant danger. 

Compare that to the people getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions because someone kissed them without asking or groped them. Or made some inappropriate jokes around the office. I'm not saying any of those things are right, but the claims for compensation for PTSD around the workplace should be compared to what soldiers go through, before we decide how to dole out the money, espeically when the deep-pocketed governments are the ones paying the bill because one of three million employees acted inappropropriately.

[Rue]

5 hours ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said:

Rue, that might be "moths to light" or "flies to a pile of sh1t" but you're 100% correct, this is like every other scam to make easy money. Heck, it's cheaper then buying a lottery ticket and the odds of winning are way higher. 

Canada is becoming the new US as far as law suits are concerned... Except the government is just giving it away. 

I'm pretty sure my rights have been violated one way or another... Gotta be worth at least 50 mil. 

Lol yes.

[cannuck]

It's the Trudeau way:  conspire with and reward the enemy, ignore or destroy those who are there to defend us.  Started with the old man (and Paul Hellyer) and continues with the offspring.

[Army Guy]

On 11/9/2017 at 12:02 PM, Jariax said:

Soldiers don't really have a sense of what they are signing up for. The chance of dying isn't that much greater than many other occupations in Canada - ie heli logging etc. The difference is that they're likely to be traumatized through seeing their friends killed or maimed, as well as being in a state of constant danger. 

Compare that to the people getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions because someone kissed them without asking or groped them. Or made some inappropriate jokes around the office. I'm not saying any of those things are right, but the claims for compensation for PTSD around the workplace should be compared to what soldiers go through, before we decide how to dole out the money, espeically when the deep-pocketed governments are the ones paying the bill because one of three million employees acted inappropropriately.

You would have to take the short bus to school to not have a sense of what they signed up for, it is drilled into your head on day one of your training, and even if you slept through all of that their is the very graphic Combat first aid course all members must take, showing battle field wounds such as severe  amputation of limbs etc....not to mention all the training one must take before going on tour, where everything is thrown at you all at the same time, like  IED strikes to RPG attacks, to suicide bombers....the training is as real as you can get it.....It leaves no doubt in you mind that this is going to get serious....very serious....So serious that the military constructs dozens of major surgical hospitals across the country. they establish dozens of Helo units that strictly fly wounded in and out....that they have a fleet of Aircraft to fly serious wounded to hospitals in Germany....

The chance of dying is actually pretty good, every day we went out side the wire our convoys got attacked, it was not "if" but "when"  but then  every day we got into a TIC or troops in contact,where we would exchange fire in anger with some terrorist group ...Don't let the numbers or stats fool you....there is no other job in the world that compares to combat....what saved us or kept our numbers down was our training and the courage of those men and women to get up every morning and bring their "A" game to the bad guys.....because if you had your head up your ass for just one second, you and a couple of your comrades would be coming home in an aluminum box, or small baggie . I'm not trying to take away anything form those trades that do have a dangerous job....I'm just saying that do not under estimate the dangers of combat there is no comparison....

[9-18-1]

This is one of the ways Islam collects Jizya from non-Muslims; it's a doctrine of Islam in the Qur'an.

[Goddess]

https://globalnews.ca/news/4748387/omarkhadr-canadian-passport-sister/

Khadr now wants a Canadian passport.  Of course we will have to give it to him because he cites religious reasons - he wants to go to Saudi Arabia to see Mecca.

He also wants unrestricted access to his terrorist sister.  Prior to this, he was only allowed to visit her with a lawyer present, now he wants unfettered access to her.

I'm sure Trudeau will fast-track this for him.  And of course, we will have to compensate him for this travesty of justice and his suffering.

 

[OftenWrong]

Be interesting to see how this turns out. I suspect little Omar will be hailed as a hero when he returns. A rich man who beat the odds, and beat the West at their game. Whether intentional or not, his situation is what it is.

Actually good that Omar should remain in the news as much as possible, to shock the Canadian conscience.

Edited December 10, 2018 by OftenWrong

[turningrite]

18 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Actually good that Omar should remain in the news as much as possible, to shock the Canadian conscience.

Maybe he can run as a Lib candidate in next year's federal election? That would be interesting.

[OftenWrong]

On 12/10/2018 at 6:05 PM, Goddess said:

Khadr now wants a Canadian passport.  Of course we will have to give it to him because he cites religious reasons - he wants to go to Saudi Arabia to see Mecca.

No doubt Khadr will get a passport and go to Mecca. Once there, how can he be hailed as anything less than a hero to Islam? He fought and defeated the great Satan, practically as a child. He suffered in a cell in Guantanamo. He emerged as if by miracle, not only to be freed from the clutches of evil Americans, but to be given an apology and a great financial reward. Khadr is a now  rich man. You could make a movie about this guy. So no doubt, he will be famous.

The timing of this spectacle could not be worse for Justin Trudeau, in that this could take a while to go away, and Khadr will then make arrangements for his trip to Mecca. The Hajj is in August... next federal election in October. Politically speaking, Khadr is as toxic as Polonium 210.

[eyeball]

On 12/10/2018 at 3:05 PM, Goddess said:

He also wants unrestricted access to his terrorist sister.

You mean an actual tried and convicted terrorist or are you people just spewing hyperbole as fact again and hoping no one will notice?

[eyeball]

On 12/10/2018 at 3:43 PM, OftenWrong said:

Actually good that Omar should remain in the news as much as possible, to shock the Canadian conscience.

Even better that he should remain denigrated, that's a war crime btw, to underscore Canada's denial.

What war?  There's the rub right there.

[cannuck]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

You mean an actual tried and convicted terrorist or are you people just spewing hyperbole as fact again and hoping no one will notice?

Right, because a terrorist is not a terrorist until they come to Canada and get put on trial - and paid $10mm bounty for every Yank they have killed.  Oh, no, wait a  minute, if the drama teacher takes him as his class pet, he is no longer a terrorist, he's a hero.   I forgot the Liberal directives here.  Do you realize how ridiculous your position that police forces who have spend years in training and countless years of work to mark identified terrorists to watch you dismiss completely, but the results of some fleebag ambulance chaser who has paid enough political dues to get appointed to the judiciary is the ONLY thing that is worth belief?

BTW: check with your good buddy Macron and ask him how those "not terrorists" on their list are working out for them in Strasbourg.  Gee, those open border immigration policies are doing such wonders adding diversity.

Edited December 12, 2018 by cannuck

[Goddess]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

You mean an actual tried and convicted terrorist or are you people just spewing hyperbole as fact again and hoping no one will notice?

Let's think about this for a minute.

There must have been a reason why the courts originally ruled that he could NOT have access to his sister unless it was supervised......perhaps it has something to do with her terrorist activities and her vocal pro-terrorist views?

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When brother Omar was released on bail pending his appeal of U.S. terrorism charges, a judge ruled he could only talk to his sister and mother under court-approved supervision. Khadr asked the Court of Queen’s Bench in a recently filed application to lift that restriction and others.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/omar-khadrs-sister-who-once-defended-911-attacks-comes-to-fore-again

 

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In interviews with the National Post and others, the Ottawa-born daughter of an alleged al Qaeda insider spoke with jarring ambivalence about the 9/11 attacks.

The person behind the 2001 terrorist attacks wanted to hit the American government “where it will hurt it, not the people,” she told the CBC. “But sometimes innocent people pay the price. You don’t want to feel happy, but you just sort of think, well, they deserve it, they’ve been doing it for such a long time. Why shouldn’t they feel it once in a while?”

An up-to-date Facebook page under Zaynab’s name contains a mix of posts about her brother’s case, critiques of U.S. policy in the Middle East, diet advice and recipes. There are also hints of her conservative Muslim leanings.

“All sects of Islam have agreed unanimously that homosexual acts are a sin, hijab is mandatory, imams must be men,” says a cartoon-like post she shared on her page Monday. “If you reject this, you are lying to yourself and you are weak in faith. Accept Islam for what it is or leave our mosques.”

 

Do you think Omar should be with this person unsupervised?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Let's think about this for a minute.

There must have been a reason why the courts originally ruled that he could NOT have access to his sister unless it was supervised......perhaps it has something to do with her terrorist activities and her vocal pro-terrorist views?

What terrorist activities? Aren't those indictable crimes?

In the meantime perhaps the court was just trying to signal Canada's virtue or some such thing.  Even Trudeau tries to put on a brave face of regret when it comes to the way Ottawa's hands are tied with regards to Khadr - reminds me of the excuses he makes when defending our weapon sales to Saudi Arabia.  

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Do you think Omar should be with this person unsupervised?

It wouldn't bother me in the least, I have no doubt CSIS or someone from the government will be following Khadr around for the rest of his life in any case.  I suspect you'd come just as unglued if Omar was with me unsupervised.

Edited December 12, 2018 by eyeball

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, cannuck said:

Right, because a terrorist is not a terrorist until they come to Canada and get put on trial - and paid $10mm bounty for every Yank they have killed.  Oh, no, wait a  minute, if the drama teacher takes him as his class pet, he is no longer a terrorist, he's a hero.   I forgot the Liberal directives here.  Do you realize how ridiculous your position that police forces who have spend years in training and countless years of work to mark identified terrorists to watch you dismiss completely, but the results of some fleebag ambulance chaser who has paid enough political dues to get appointed to the judiciary is the ONLY thing that is worth belief?

BTW: check with your good buddy Macron and ask him how those "not terrorists" on their list are working out for them in Strasbourg.  Gee, those open border immigration policies are doing such wonders adding diversity.

Triggered much?

[DogOnPorch]

The Left loves Khadr because they think he's their useful idiot.