eyeball Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, blackbird said: God created everything so who is to question what God does? Me for one. If there really is a heaven He's definitely going to be getting a few from me starting with "WTF is the matter with you"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 We have giant beds of coal because during the Carboniferous Period, 350 million ya, bacteria hadn't developed the ability to consume cellulose and other complex polysaccharides...just sayin'. Things didn't rot like they do today....even with 30% O2 and high humidity. What does the Bible say about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Me for one. If there really is a heaven He's definitely going to be getting a few from me starting with "WTF is the matter with you"? I for one wouldn't want to be in your shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, blackbird said: I for one wouldn't want to be in your shoes. I said to St Peter at the Pearly Gates, that I'm gonna be kind of late, 'cause I gotta have another cigarette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: We have giant beds of coal because during the Carboniferous Period, 350 million ya, bacteria hadn't developed the ability to consume cellulose and other complex polysaccharides...just sayin'. Things didn't rot like they do today....even with 30% O2 and high humidity. What does the Bible say about that? It says God created the earth. Some theologians think it was created six to ten thousand years ago. All that coal would have likely been in the earth at the time it was created. IN other words in my humble opinion the earth was created with an apparent age built into it. If you think about, when the trees and plants were created, they must have had an age at the time of creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, blackbird said: It says God created the earth. Some theologians think it was created six to ten thousand years ago. All that coal would have likely been in the earth at the time it was created. IN other words in my humble opinion the earth was created with an apparent age built into it. If you think about, when the trees and plants were created, they must have had an age at the time of creation. So coal was created by Yahweh already in that form of carbon? Not as living plants first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: So coal was created by Yahweh already in that form of carbon? Not as living plants first? That makes sense. According to scientists, doesn't it take millions of years to convert plants into coal? So the coal you see today must have been created with the earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, blackbird said: That makes sense. According to scientists, doesn't it take millions of years to convert plants into coal? So the coal you see today must have been created with the earth. And fossils of plants and such in these coal beds are what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: And fossils of plants and such in these coal beds are what exactly? Fossils must have been created as well at the time of creation. I found some fossils long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 If you think about it, it makes sense that when the earth was created, everything had an apparent age even though it was just created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, blackbird said: Fossils must have been created as well at the time of creation. I found some fossils long ago. How old is the Earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: How old is the Earth? Theologians have estimated from the events in the Bible that it is possibly six thousand years old. I think they get that from a timeline of events recorded in the Bible. Edited June 5, 2017 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: Theologians have estimate from the events in the Bible that it is possibly six thousand years old. I think they get that from a timeline of events recorded in the Bible. Do you believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, blackbird said: Theologians have estimate from the events in the Bible that it is possibly six thousand years old. I think they get that from a timeline of events recorded in the Bible. Is that you pointing out how much the bible is hocus pocus finally.? Good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Do you believe that? Yes. I believe the King James Bible. I was fortunate to be able to hear a series of lectures by a scientist Professor Philip Stott for four evening on the subject of creation and evolution. It was a slide presentation. He showed how from a scientific point of view the theory of evolution doesn't hold up and many other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 The theory of evolution is built on something called random chance processes. Professor Stott, who is a mathematician among other things explained that the mathematical theories of probability are against evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) If you gave a monkey a typewriter and allowed him to keep typing until he typed out the complete works of Shakespeare, how long would it take? That is like the theory of evolution. Statistically there is not enough time in the universe for evolution to occur because the random chance processes don't have enough time to create an evolving life. He said mathematically it is not possible. Edited June 5, 2017 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Professor Stott also showed the Geological Time Charts with the life forms allegedly at different times. It is full of gaps that can't be properly explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) He believe the earth could have been struck by a giant meteor that caused a huge tidal wave to rush around the earth several kilometers in height. There may be some evidence for the earth being struck by a giant meteor because the earth could have been knocked off of it's axis. There is scientific evidence based upon the amount of the wobble and they have calculated when it was hit by the meteor. Edited June 5, 2017 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, blackbird said: Yes. I believe the King James Bible. I was fortunate to be able to hear a series of lectures by a scientist Professor Philip Stott for four evening on the subject of creation and evolution. It was a slide presentation. He showed how from a scientific point of view the theory of evolution doesn't hold up and many other things. How did he do that? Or is the above probability theory all that convinced you? I suppose I'd have a few other questions...but let's stick to this. What about metallicity? It shows the Earth wasn't created in the beginning...but rather after other stars went supernova in order to make elements beyond Lithium. As well, new stars & planets are being made as we type on our devices...any idea why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Another question would be...just for you pondering...why can we see farther than 6,000 ly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: How did he do that? Or is the above probability theory all that convinced you? I suppose I'd have a few other questions...but let's stick to this. What about metallicity? It shows the Earth wasn't created in the beginning...but rather after other stars went supernova in order to make elements beyond Lithium. As well, new stars & planets are being made as we type on our devices...any idea why? No. I was convinced the account in Genesis is true before I heard his slide presentation. He went into all kinds of things that were very fascinating. The universe I believe was created at the same time as the earth. So all the planets, starts, galaxies, black holes, etc. must have been created at the same time. Prior to that, perhaps there was nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Another question would be...just for you pondering...why can we see farther than 6,000 ly? The same reason the earth was created with a certain age. The whole universe would have been created with an apparent age. In an instant the universe would have been created with galaxies, stars, etc. Even with the light from stars giving the impression it has been traveling for billions of years, when in fact, it must have been created to appear that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: He believe the earth could have been struck by a giant meteor that caused a huge tidal wave to rush around the earth several kilometers in height. There may be some evidence for the earth being struck by a giant meteor because the earth could have been knocked off of it's axis. There is scientific evidence based upon the amount of the wobble and they have calculated when it was hit by the meteor. Hit by a meteor in the period of human existence that knocked Earth off it's axis causing a giant tidal wave? There is zero evidence of that, I'm afraid. It would have to have been QUITE the meteor. There is evidence from the Lunar Landings that the Moon is actually ejecta from an ancient collision with a co-orbital planet that collided with Earth...but that was billions of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, blackbird said: The same reason the earth was created with a certain age. The whole universe would have been created with an apparent age. In an instant the universe would have been created with galaxies, stars, etc. Even with the light from stars giving the impression it has been traveling for billions of years, when in fact, it must have been created to appear that way. I think you don't really understand the subject...but okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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