betsy Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) There should be no ceiling at all for illegals who come illegally to this country! Especially when they are unvetted and unscreened. NONE! It's the basement! Who wants more gang members? drug dealers? etc., Chances are, a lot of these people have criminal convictions! Once they get in, they'll clog up the judicial system fighting for the "right" to stay! Who ends up paying for all these expenses??? Think of welfare, housing, healthcare, lawyers' fees etc.., Edited February 23, 2017 by betsy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 JT hates English Canada....and EVERYTHING it stands for. He WILL destroy it given a chance...he's trying hard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 hours ago, taxme said: Pretty obvious as to why? That is because there is no elsewhere on any global map. See, right wingers are not so dumb like you think after all. Now with liberals, well, I am not to sure about that. I can see them looking all over a global map trying to find a country called elsewhere, and probably hoping that they can find some refugees there to bring to over to Canada. Hey, you never know. You don't need a map because elsewhere is also everywhere and you don't have to go looking for refugees, they're coming regardless and there's not a thing anyone can do to stop them. The way to get more refugees moving even faster is to do nothing about our foreign or environmental policies - there is probably nothing in the world that motivates refugees more than right-wing prescriptions for making the world a better place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, eyeball said: ... there is probably nothing in the world that motivates refugees more than right-wing prescriptions for making the world a better place. Oh yes there is....take a look at what the left-wing prescriptions have done in Venezuela and the resulting refugee flight out of that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Oh yes there is....take a look at what the left-wing prescriptions have done in Venezuela and the resulting refugee flight out of that country. Those prescriptions were delivered by a dictator who used his power in a very typically right-wing manner, as evidenced by the vast fortune he and his cronies amassed and by the lack of progress on the ground that refugees are really fleeing from. No doubt much of the stolen fortune that also took flight out of Venezuela wound up in the hands of our financial services sectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Oh yes there is....take a look at what the left-wing prescriptions have done in Venezuela and the resulting refugee flight out of that country. Yes, Venezuela does have some similarities to Trump's America. The government of Venezuela is deporting refugees from Columbia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Those prescriptions were delivered by a dictator who used his power in a very typically right-wing manner, as evidenced by the vast fortune he and his cronies amassed and by the lack of progress on the ground that refugees are really fleeing from. No doubt much of the stolen fortune that also took flight out of Venezuela wound up in the hands of our financial services sectors. Venezuela's PSUV are socialists/communists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: Those prescriptions were delivered by a dictator who used his power in a very typically right-wing manner, Nope...sorry...you don't get to wiggle out every time by claiming the left-winger was actually a right-winger...again. Left wingers also create social and economic reasons for refugee flight to other nations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Nope...sorry...you don't get to wiggle out every time by claiming the left-winger was actually a right-winger...again. Left wingers also create social and economic reasons for refugee flight to other nations. Anybody seen South Viet-Nam lately? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_boat_people The phone...she rings...but nobody picks-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Nope...sorry...you don't get to wiggle out every time by claiming the left-winger was actually a right-winger...again. Left wingers also create social and economic reasons for refugee flight to other nations. And I just pointed out the main reason why that is - the conservative right-wing manner in which a government's power is applied in countries like Venezuela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: And I just pointed out the main reason why that is.... Thank you for agreeing that left-wing prescriptions also cause refugee flight to other nations, as in Venezuela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: And I just pointed out the main reason why that is - the conservative right-wing manner in which a government's power is applied in countries like Venezuela. National Socialism...it's in the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Thank you for agreeing that left-wing prescriptions also cause refugee flight to other nations, as in Venezuela. Thanks for accepting my reason why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: National Socialism...it's in the name. It's not in the outcome though, except for the leaders. Actions speak louder than words no matter how many times you repeat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: JT hates English Canada....and EVERYTHING it stands for. He WILL destroy it given a chance...he's trying hard. Wait ... is it Trudeau or radical Islam that is destroying Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's not in the outcome though, except for the leaders. Actions speak louder than words no matter how many times you repeat them. Completely off topic. If you need further schooling about WW2 and National Socialism...start a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, GostHacked said: Wait ... is it Trudeau or radical Islam that is destroying Canada? JT is a Muslim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Completely off topic. If you need further schooling about WW2 and National Socialism...start a thread. There's nothing off topic about the reasons for refugees in a thread about refugees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Wait ... is it Trudeau or radical Islam that is destroying Canada? Trudeau is finishing the job his father started, destroying english canada . And his love affair with Islam and immigrants ,he will let everyone in if he can. Remember he pretty well said he will take the ones from america. So are there 11 million heading this way?? And now with sanctuary cities, more are going to come. Montreal is going to explode. But everyone around the counsel table making these decisions are not waiting in line for food and housing, so the poor people are the ones that will pay for this craziness. I am so sick and tired of hearing about them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 16 hours ago, ?Impact said: Yes, queue jumping is an issue. What is your solution? Send them all back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Rue said: 3- creating an expedited process that will quickly identify illegals from legitimate refugee applicants and immigration applicants and place them in a different intake process that sends them to detention centres; The only way this could be done would be to hire more adjudicators for hearings - CANADIAN BORN adjudicators, and then setting up separate courts and crowns to hear the inevitable appeals quickly. Our existing court system is such a byzantine mess it can easily take years to process a case through it, by which time the would-be refugee has often found a Canadian spouse or has born Canadian children and can launch a whole new set of appeals. Anyone crossing the border needs to have a refugee hearing within a few days, not six to eight months. Then when they appeal, they appeal needs to be heard within a week, and the inevitable appeal to the courts has to be heard within another week. Edited February 23, 2017 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: On immigration, the question is how many can we absorb. We might differ on the number but most of us would agree there is a ceiling. Those of us who pay taxes, anyway. Virtually every one of these people is an additional drain on the economy. Edited February 23, 2017 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Those prescriptions were delivered by a dictator who used his power in a very typically right-wing manner, as evidenced by the vast fortune he and his cronies amassed and by the lack of progress on the ground that refugees are really fleeing from. No doubt much of the stolen fortune that also took flight out of Venezuela wound up in the hands of our financial services sectors. Oh, this place makes me laugh sometimes! The dictator referred to in Venezuela was Hugo Chavez. He was the definition of ultra left wing, so far left that he repeatedly embarrassed his good buddies Castro in Cuba and Morales in Bolivia. Of course, they'd laugh at him only behind his back, since his longtime practice was to give away the oil that belonged to his people, thereby bankrupting the country. 'Right wing manner'. LOL. Oh, and his successor is even dumber. Pierre Trudeau would love both of them to bits, and I expect Justin has a special place in his heart from Chavez, Castro(s) and any other left wing loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, Argus said: Send them all back. Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Where? Wherever the hell they came from. Since they crossed the US border I believe we can send them back there. If not, then send them back to their home countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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