Army Guy Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 2 hours ago, eyeball said: No, that's our fault for surrendering too much responsibility to politicians. You however don't want to leave it up to politicians or voters so that just leaves you and your ilk to decide. So how would you feel about letting fishermen decide when they can or can't fish? How do you think Canadians would feel about that? I've addressed this concern about lukewarm support several times before by suggesting that a super-majority be required to ensure there is little to no ambiguity - 75% of the electorate in a mandatory vote should suffice. Note this super-majority would only be required for invasive military action we engage in, not to defend ourselves from an invasion. Apparently there is an awful lot that our government does that Canadians know very little about. Perhaps you should argue instead for greater transparency - a more enlightened informed electorate might see things a lot more the way you do although you seem to recognize that when it does become interested it backfires on you. It's because you're so caught between a rock and a hard place that I have to ask why you insist on volunteering to stay there? You really think Canadians are ones that are being stupid about this? That's not what i am saying at all, but thanks for the attempt....I said i would rather a politician making those choices as they have all the info that regular citizens do not have access to, for instance intel reports, etc etc...Now i have made many statements that our politicians for the most part refuse to list or take advise on military matters from the military or subject matter experts.....In many cases with the current liberals, this advice is coming from 15-20 different generals from the same field, that has got to say something.....it has to send up a red flag as to why? Are you saying that some how that having a subject matter expert in the field such as fishermen......should not have a say in the fisheries ? Thats not what i am saying........That some how some politician knows better than the guy who does it for a living that is not what i am saying, .....I get it that sometimes not all military personal or fishermen for that matter have the best interest of the field in mind, some of them are just out to make a buck. But when enough are saying the same thing there must be something behind it....some based on experience of doing the job for years, then yes they should be heard....and their opinion should be valued over some guy with a BA in ARTS that is a politician who has not fished in his life.... What you forget to mention is there are a lot of issues that are not covered under invasion or defensive issues, there are our foreign interests, such as Lebanon, where 50,000 so called Canadians needed to be rescued.....it was a good thing we have close allieds , to assist our military to get those people off the coast to some place safer...because we did not have the equipment needed for that job.....what would have happened if these people were under threat of military action, it could have been very bad.....because we as a nation do not think we need to spend all that money.... there are lots of examples, of our military not being able to protect our citizens or having the capability to do anything.... Canadians think that our defense stops at our borders, until they are threaten or taken hostage then they want our government to do something, perhaps use the military to get them back...with out the tools, and equipment there is no way.....Like i said before Canada had a majority of it's citizens approval to send us to Afghanistan....but very little support to bring us back....where was the super majority then....watching hockey... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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