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On 5/31/2018 at 9:50 AM, Centerpiece said:

It'll be interesting to watch. If they are true to form, the eco-nuts will be out in force with their "civil disobedience". If Trudeau allows them to stall the project, he will pay a big price come election day. It's Canadians who own the pipeline now - not Liberals - and we expect the government to uphold the rule of law and do what they said they'd do on behalf of Canadians - and that's to build the pipeline. It's a mess of their own making. They will lose more votes if they don't build it than if they do. No more pussy footing around. Interesting indeed.

Fun times ahead for the lieberals. LOL.

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On 6/4/2018 at 8:34 AM, Argus said:

So the G7 is getting set to start, and everyone with more than a single brain cell knows that the important issue is going to be international trade, and figuring out how to deal with the man baby from the US. 

And Justin Trudeau? Well, he has other priorities.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is looking to reassert Canada’s claim to climate change leadership at the coming Group of Seven summit, just a week after his government announced it would acquire the Trans Mountain oil pipeline and fund its expansion.

Mr. Trudeau will host Group of Seven political leaders at the summit in Charlevoix, Que., this week and has said support for the Paris climate change agreement is a key priority, despite opposition from U.S. President Donald Trump.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/article-trudeau-aims-to-reassert-canadas-claim-to-climate-change-leadership/

Well, Trudeau does not have my support. So what now? Just asking. 

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 On 5/30/2018 at 1:35 PM,  Queenmandy85 said: 

That's easy to say, but, if the Government loses a vote, they fall. there would likely be an election. I agree, party leaders have too much power but if you were an MP, would you want to go through the expense of an election every few months?

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It appears to work fine in America. From my understanding the government does not fall over a vote? 

 

In our British style Parliamentary system, the Government must have the confidence of both the Crown and Parliament. 

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Justin Trudeau busted again for unethical behaviour....fails to disclose gift worth more than $200 CAD:

 

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was forced to pay a $100 fine for violating conflict of interest rules by not disclosing a gift given to him last year by P.E.I. Premier Wade MacLauchlan.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-trudeau-fined-100-for-not-disclosing-gift-of-sunglasses-from-pei-2/

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11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Justin Trudeau busted again for unethical behaviour....fails to disclose gift worth more than $200 CAD:

 

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-trudeau-fined-100-for-not-disclosing-gift-of-sunglasses-from-pei-2/

You'd be tempted to write it off as a trivial matter but it goes to the matter of either his arrogance or the incompetence of the people around him. After all, he was put on severe notice already with the Agha Khan fiasco. What is so difficult about having a process in place for receiving any gifts?

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Here's a video from the G7 that shows how well known and how well liked our Prime Minister is. We were the host country and Trudeau was the conference Chair. I actually found it quite uncomfortable to watch. 

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16 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Well, this didn't take long....Justin Trudeau now has lower job approval ratings in Canada than Donald Trump in the USA.

Sunny Ways !!

I think Canadians are starting to realize how mediocre a PM Trudeau actually is. Most don't fault him a lot for his approach to Trump's trade tactics because it's unclear that any Canadian leader could react differently. But on a host of other issues Trudeau has been a disappointment. He kicked electoral reform under the bus. His immigration policies are being sustained mainly by virtue of not disclosing actual facts, including about the extent of the program, to Canadians. His refugee policy is a mess largely of his own making. Canada's economy, which is mainly sustained either by commodities booms and/or on America's coattails, looks like it could be headed for a stall, if not a crash. Implementation of his marijuana legislation was haphazard, as has been his government's once vaunted climate agenda. His pipelines strategy has been all over the map and impressed few. His approach on Indigenous policy has, so far, largely been a flop. I could go on, but would simply bore everybody here with the obvious. He really wasn't, and still isn't, ready.

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I liked Pierre Trudeau. He is one of the most popular PM's of all time - according to a MacLeans poll, or something. Maggie and Pierre were jet-setters, they were cool. He pulled a pirouette behind the Queen! All of Canada laughed. 

We're not laughing at the kid. He's an embarrassment. 

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59 minutes ago, Centerpiece said:

Here's a video from the G7 that shows how well known and how well liked our Prime Minister is. We were the host country and Trudeau was the conference Chair. I actually found it quite uncomfortable to watch. 

Trudeau presented himself in the worst way possible. He looks so tiny in that little suit

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1 hour ago, turningrite said:

I think Canadians are starting to realize how mediocre a PM Trudeau actually is. Most don't fault him a lot for his approach to Trump's trade tactics because it's unclear that any Canadian leader could react differently.

Another leader might not have gotten us into the position of having to deal with Trump's trade tactics. Another leader might not have brought climate change and gender equity and unions  into the negotiations, and might have decided to ditch Mexico and negotiate on our own as the Americans repeatedly asked of us.

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17 minutes ago, Argus said:

Another leader might not have gotten us into the position of having to deal with Trump's trade tactics. Another leader might not have brought climate change and gender equity and unions  into the negotiations, and might have decided to ditch Mexico and negotiate on our own as the Americans repeatedly asked of us.

Yupppp why let mexico bring you down come trade with us one on one. Mexico wants to be China and Russia's puppet state like Venezuela.. 

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Would it have been too much for Trudeau to forego a couple of personal leave days to return to Ottawa in light of a major -terrorist and/or mental - attack in Toronto? If only as a symbolic act to show he cares about Canadians.

You can bet he would not book personal leave to coincide with Pride parades. In Ottawa the parade takes place on August 26. He'll be there with bells on.

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On 6/7/2018 at 3:27 PM, Queenmandy85 said:
 On 5/30/2018 at 1:35 PM,  Queenmandy85 said: 

That's easy to say, but, if the Government loses a vote, they fall. there would likely be an election. I agree, party leaders have too much power but if you were an MP, would you want to go through the expense of an election every few months?

Taxme wrote:

It appears to work fine in America. From my understanding the government does not fall over a vote? 

 

In our British style Parliamentary system, the Government must have the confidence of both the Crown and Parliament. 

We need to get rid of that non confidence bullshit, the budget being a good example. If you and your wife can't agree on a budget do you get a divorce? Of course not you work together to solve the issue . But our pol. Don't work together for the betterment of anything but themselves

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In December of 2015, newly elected Prime Minister Trudeau sent a video message to the Toronto based “Reviving the Islamic Spirit” conference.  Observers of this conference know that the conference has morphed into a “who is who” in the world of Islamists in Canada and the USA.  The list of speakers has included Tariq Ramadan, the grandson of the Muslim Brotherhood founder and Imam Siraj Wahhaj, a US unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.  The conference was also sponsored by IRFAN Canada – until that charity lost is charitable status for funding terrorism and was later declared to be a terrorist entity in Canada.

Prime Minister Trudeau could have sent a message of integration.  Instead, he chose to signal how he shared the views of the conference attendees.  Specially, he referenced his “shared beliefs, his shared set of values and his shared vision” with the attendees of the conference.

https://www.newdelhitimes.com/canadas-politicians-are-in-denial-on-terrorism/

That set the tone for what was to come following his 2015 election.

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23 minutes ago, capricorn said:

That set the tone for what was to come following his 2015 election.

Too bad we have to read the New Delhi Times to get an accurate summary. It has become almost undeniable that our Prime Minister does not have the mental acuity to understand complex issues (except maybe quantum mechanics ^_^)......so much so that he is likely oblivious to the dangerous path that his backroom idealogues have set Canada on. There are well over a million Muslims in Canada. There is absolutely nothing wrong with courting their votes - as Canadians but this video - and the supporting story behind it - are a shameful example of identity politics at its worst. When so much allegiance is given to obtain votes, you can bet there will be a Quid Pro Quo somewhere down the road. 

Here's a particularly troubling excerpt from Mohammed Hashim - the Hussain family spin doctor.....this fellow has an activist history that stretches to CAIR US - an organization accused of supporting terrorism. And remember, any Prime Minister naive enough to give a private meeting to Joshua Boyle......well, it just exemplifies how dangerous that could be.......

And don't get me started on the Trudeau Channel - CBC......

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The bio continues: “His workshop ‘Progressive organizing in the Muslim communities’ will demonstrate how the GTA Muslim community mobilized in the previous federal election, and laid the groundwork to start building a national political movement.”

Link: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-meet-the-spin-doctor-behind-the-hussain-family-statement

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How are the recent polss showing? Would Trudeau's party win if there was an election now? There's going to be an election in 18 months time at most anyway, right?

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7 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

How are the recent polss showing? Would Trudeau's party win if there was an election now? There's going to be an election in 18 months time at most anyway, right?

The latest polls (July 24 by Eric Grenier's poll tracker) shows 164 seats for the Grits, 135 CPC, NDP 38, and Greens 1.

Liberals 36.3 %, CPC 34.4 %

On 7/1/2018 at 9:47 AM, turningrite said:

He kicked electoral reform under the bus

Actually, it was the NDP that blocked electoral reform. They refused to budge from the idiotic Proportional Representation and the CPC wanted FPTP but at least were willing to compromise. There was no way for reform to succeed without all party consensus.
 
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On one hand Justin Trudeau is a very famous person and people world over know he is the PM of Canada. When Stephen Harper or Jean Chretien were PM's it was by no means certain that people outside Canada had ever even heard of them.

On another hand, Justin Trudeau being a very famous person world over must be getting something of an embarassment for many Canadians.

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3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Actually, it was the NDP that blocked electoral reform. They refused to budge from the idiotic Proportional Representation and the CPC wanted FPTP but at least were willing to compromise. There was no way for reform to succeed without all party consensus.

 

You're kidding, right? I haven't read a single analysis that's argued anything other than that Trudeau's crew nixed electoral reform. With a majority government, the Libs had complete control on this issue. The NDP of course favored proportional representation, as it always has, and I believe the Conservatives favored the status quo, but the actual decision to do nothing was entirely Trudeau's call. He has to wear it.

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