wulf42 Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 I suspect Israel will likely not comply with the resolution in the least bit.....maybe the UN has outlived it's usefulness in today's world?. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/un-west-bank-settlement-israel-1.3910741 Quote
Argus Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 Maybe, but I don't think you'll find a lot of support for Israeli settlements in the West. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
wulf42 Posted December 24, 2016 Author Report Posted December 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Argus said: Maybe, but I don't think you'll find a lot of support for Israeli settlements in the West. Understood, but it seems the UN has become one sided focusing more on Israel and not much else. I think you are going to see now more than ever the UN will have less and less influence on other Countries, eventually it will cease to exist as Countries drop out. Quote
Omni Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 Well Trump has vowed things will look a lot different at the UN after Jan. 20. I can imagine he is just as much a supporter of Netanyahu as he is of Putin and the Palestinians can expect to have even more of their land mowed over by Israeli settlements. Quote
Smallc Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 I'm no big pro Palestine person, but, Israel is just asking for trouble with those settlements anyway. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 Israel should do whatever it wants/needs in the face of existential threats. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Israel should do whatever it wants/needs in the face of existential threats. It really sucks to lose a war. It really sucks even more to lose a war one started. Settle away... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Argus said: Maybe, but I don't think you'll find a lot of support for Israeli settlements in the West. Who cares? Let's ask Germany how they felt about handing over East Prussia and Pomerania to Poland complete with ethnic cleansing. The Arabs lost and they're very sore losers. I'd kick 'em again if they try anything clever like launching yet another war on Israel. Kick 'em HARD. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
herples Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 Winning a war does not give Israel free reign over the region unfortunately. So no it can not settle away. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 Just now, herples said: Winning a war does not give Israel free reign over the region unfortunately. So no it can not settle away. Uhhh...you and what army? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
herples Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 No army just the UN and International Law. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 1 minute ago, herples said: No army just the UN and International Law. Israel will play the OIC controlled UN fake game only so long. Islam is on the march everywhere. Israel won't roll-over just to satisfy leftists and Islam's supporters. So no...they're not going to leave. It's theirs...the Jews...not the Muslim's. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
herples Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) It's also the Palestinians land according to the UN. According to the UN the Israelis and Palestinians should share it. Edited December 24, 2016 by herples Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, herples said: It's also the Palestinians land according to the UN. According to the UN the Israelis and Palestinians should share it. "Palestinians" were invented at the Khartoum Conference by the Muslims...1967. This after LOSING their war on Israel. Go back to Egypt and Jordan respectively. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 For the history challenged... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
herples Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 As usual your link does not back up your assertion that Palestinians were invented at the the conference. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, herples said: No army just the UN and International Law. How has that worked out so far ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, herples said: As usual your link does not back up your assertion that Palestinians were invented at the the conference. Meh...you're free to believe the Palestinians are an ancient people who've been part of the landscape since the dawn of time itself. Israel knows the real story behind Arafat and his uncle Hajj Amin. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: How has that worked out so far ? Israel could smoke any UN Army fielded...generally. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Altai Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 Are you not tired of discussing same things over and over and over and over again with each news topic started about stolen Palestinian lands ? Now I will start a topic about it and you can share all your sources there. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Omni Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Israel should do whatever it wants/needs in the face of existential threats. If they stopped stealing land perhaps they wouldn't feel so threatened. Quote
herples Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Meh...you're free to believe the Palestinians are an ancient people who've been part of the landscape since the dawn of time itself. Israel knows the real story behind Arafat and his uncle Hajj Amin. You are putting words in my mouth I never claimed the Palestinians are an ancient people and your immature way of arguing does not help your position neither is your engaging in historical revisionism with claiming the Hajj as being the sole figure to everything Israel and Palestine. Edited December 24, 2016 by herples Quote
Benz Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: "Palestinians" were invented at the Khartoum Conference by the Muslims...1967. This after LOSING their war on Israel. Go back to Egypt and Jordan respectively. The only logical answer to such thing is, let's erase those israeli bastards from the surface of earth. Lucky for them, you are too insignificant to be taken seriously. The americans will always protect Israel but, not at all cost. The message is very clear. They have enough of this shitty attitude. Israel has to stop. The americans were ok with Israel taking the irremediable presence advantage in Jérusalem but, not a total ethnic cleansing like they are slowly doing. Winning a war does not grant you the right to eject people off the land they are living for several generations. It's not a board game, it's real life. I think the israel leaders are very stupid. If there are no more palestinians in israel and they clean up the place. It will just increase the will of Israel haters to just nuke the place. They won't even have to sacrifice any of their own. It's about time that Israel starts to learn to get along and that is also the opinion of alot of israelians. Except the extremists, as usual. Quote
Argus Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: Israel could smoke any UN Army fielded...generally. Israel would be infinitely better off if it could live in peace with its neighbors. I'm not saying that's necessarily possible given the degree of Jew hatred among its neighbors, but adding Jews to the West bank in a slow drip fashion is only making those enemies happy. It gives them a great continuing bat to beat Israel with, and helps goad their populations into glaring at Israel and not the incompetent dictators currently in charge of the Arab world. Sooner or later one of those frenzied religious maniacs is going to get hold of nukes, either from North Korea or Pakistan or wherever, and set them off in Israel. Israel really needs to do something to calm things. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 47 minutes ago, Omni said: If they stopped stealing land perhaps they wouldn't feel so threatened. Because the neighboring countries are full of people who love Jews... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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