taxme Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 On 12/10/2016 at 4:46 PM, Rue said: None of my relatives are moral. Wow, I didn't know that your relatives are immoral? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 http://www.itsablackthang.com/collections/african-american-santa-claus-figurines http://www.blackartdepot.com/collections/category-black-santa-claus-figurines-and-decor https://www.blacksanta.com/ Here you go Taxme et al. Just in time to help you shop for Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) On 2016-12-10 at 0:20 PM, OftenWrong said: Ah. Such is moral reltivisim How is a Caucasian Santa have anything to do with morality? Edited December 16, 2016 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 20 hours ago, The_Squid said: How is a Caucasian Santa have anything to do with morality? It's a cultural symbol. By eroding it you are attacking my culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 49 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: It's a cultural symbol. By eroding it you are attacking my culture. So go live in a cave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 50 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: It's a cultural symbol. By eroding it you are attacking my culture. How does it "attack" your culture? Just because it offends your sensibilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 2016-12-16 at 9:45 PM, The_Squid said: How does it "attack" your culture? Just because it offends your sensibilities? The symbol of a culture is being attacked by trying to make something real, when it is not supposed to be real. Why is it not ok for Santa to remain a white dude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, OftenWrong said: The symbol of a culture is being attacked by trying to make something real, when it is not supposed to be real. Why is it not ok for Santa to remain a white dude? It's fine for Santa to be a white dude. You still haven't coherently said how it's an attack on your culture. Edited December 18, 2016 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 hours ago, OftenWrong said: The symbol of a culture is being attacked by trying to make something real, when it is not supposed to be real. Why is it not ok for Santa to remain a white dude? You must feel all warm and cozy and in a safe place when at a mall with a white Santa. We need more safe places for white Santa believers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) On 12/5/2016 at 4:53 AM, taxme said: Well, I knew it would be just a matter of time before political correctness and multiculturalism would kick in and we would finally get to see our first black Santa Claus starting to take Christmas presents orders from the kiddies at the mall. At a mall called the Mall of America in Minneapolis, Minn. they have decided that it was time to have a black Santa Claus instead of the traditional white Santa Claus. Being politically incorrect, and always trying to stand up and fight to keep what Caucasian culture, traditions, and heritage that we have and have known and been so happy with, and no complaints ever being made against a white Santa Claus for all these centuries, as far as I know need to change? , I guess that the elite liberal marxists in power have finally decided that this must change. So Santa Clause now must become a multicultural Santa. When is all this liberal marxists assault on our western culture and traditions ever going to end with these fools? They have pretty much convinced the ordinary sheeple that they should not say Merry Christmas any more because it may offend someone of another religion. Will an Asian or East Indian be far behind from playing the role of Santa Claus at the mall? Will the feminists get in on the act and start to demand that Mrs. Claus should start taking the Christmas orders from the kiddies instead? Why can't traditional things like a white Santa Claus be left alone? Why are there people out there who just cannot leave well enough alone? I don't know about you but this peeves me off. Aw well. Source: CTV News Channel. I have no problems with a black Santa Claus. In fact I'm happy that non-whites are getting into the spirit of Christmas cultural celebration. For a non-white to embrace the culture of Santa Claus (western Christmas) - instead of feeling resentment towards that demonstration, I think it's heartwarming! Some anti- Christians want to be provocative, and some think that by putting a non-white Santa Claus is a provocation. Well........they'll be disappointed in me. The culture of Santa Claus is based on Christianity - Santa Claus is St. Nicholas! Christmas is the remembrance (and celebration) of the coming of the Messiah, as promised by God. Christianity is open to all. It should be. Jesus Christ had issued an invitation to all! It's the spirit of Christmas that should be emphasized - and Jesus came to earth for all mankind! Edited December 20, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) On second thought.....I have to retract my statement above in saying that Santa Claus is based on Christianity. Santa Claus has become the epitome of materialism - no one thinks of Christ when we think of Santa Claus. We think of gifts! Of things we'll be wishing for that we're gonna get. Santa Claus is a corruption of Christianity. For me to have said what I said in my previous post, was a mistak on my part. I fell unconsciously to the worldly trap! That would be like me saying Valentine's Day is "Christian-based" because it's about love - when in fact, it's a celebration of Cupid (the god of love in mythology). Edited December 20, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 12 hours ago, betsy said: On second thought.....I have to retract my statement above in saying that Santa Claus is based on Christianity. Santa Claus has become the epitome of materialism - no one thinks of Christ when we think of Santa Claus. We think of gifts! Of things we'll be wishing for that we're gonna get. Santa Claus is a corruption of Christianity. For me to have said what I said in my previous post, was a mistak on my part. I fell unconsciously to the worldly trap! That would be like me saying Valentine's Day is "Christian-based" because it's about love - when in fact, it's a celebration of Cupid (the god of love in mythology). I must agree with you that Christmas is today all about celebrating materialism. Christmas was suppose to be for family get together's and buying gifts for kids to add to the festivities. Now it has gone nuts. Everybody now is pretty much buying something for everyone they know. This is a great time of the year if anyone owns a business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 On 2016-12-18 at 3:53 PM, The_Squid said: It's fine for Santa to be a white dude. You still haven't coherently said how it's an attack on your culture. I think its coherently obvious. What leftists have done, for years now, is to eliminate our culture little by little, by implementing changes that undermine the establishment. Leftists hate the current establishment. and seek to replace it with their own. Problem is they don't realize what that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: I think its coherently obvious. What leftists have done, for years now, is to eliminate our culture little by little, by implementing changes that undermine the establishment. Leftists hate the current establishment. and seek to replace it with their own. Problem is they don't realize what that means. So you think some group ("leftists") are trying to change how you celebrate Xmas? Why can't they celebrate it their way and you celebrate it your way? Why do you need to insist that traditions that you've used must never change and get offended when they do? As far as I can tell, no one is tellling you how to celebrate Xmas. But you are certainly telling other people how they must celebrate. Edited December 24, 2016 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 What about the six-year-old who sees all the White Santas in his/her storybooks, but then sees a black Santa at the mall? Will she/he be traumatized? Will it be a worse trauma than finding out that Santa is a myth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, dialamah said: What about the six-year-old who sees all the White Santas in his/her storybooks, but then sees a black Santa at the mall? Will she/he be traumatized? Will it be a worse trauma than finding out that Santa is a myth? One of my biggest regrets was letting my kids believe in Santa. I wish I never had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, bcsapper said: One of my biggest regrets was letting my kids believe in Santa. I wish I never had. They will anyway. As a JW when my daughter was young, I didn't let her believe in Santa. Nonetheless, one night as I'm putting her to bed, she says to me "I know there is no Santa, there is just a guy who goes around at night to give presents to kids". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, dialamah said: What about the six-year-old who sees all the White Santas in his/her storybooks, but then sees a black Santa at the mall? Will she/he be traumatized? Will it be a worse trauma than finding out that Santa is a myth? When I was a kid the likelihood of seeing a black Santa at a mall was pretty remote, and I'm not sure how that would have affected me. However, I came to my own conclusion that he was a myth eventually, and it wasn't traumatic at all. It was good fun while it lasted and then I moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, dialamah said: They will anyway. As a JW when my daughter was young, I didn't let her believe in Santa. Nonetheless, one night as I'm putting her to bed, she says to me "I know there is no Santa, there is just a guy who goes around at night to give presents to kids". Yeah, I would have liked to explain the whole thing right off the bat. Hindsight though. At the time it seemed harmless, but my girls were upset when they found out. I felt like I had hurt them. Edited December 25, 2016 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Yeah, I would have liked to explain the whole thing right off the bat. Hindsight though. At the time it seemed harmless, but my girls were upset when they found out. I felt like I had hurt them. Kids get so little time to indulge in fantasy before the big bad world interferes. It seems like it is less every year. What about the years of magic they experienced when they believed? Don't let your own baggage spoil it, reality bites soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 Xmas in Cambodia is interesting. Had to leave the hotel last night to avoid the overpriced Xmas dinner at our hotel. $72 USD each for dinner and to listen to children sing Xmas carols. Having Cambodians wishing us a Merry Xmas is also amusing since the wife and I are not into it. We just say thank you and move on to another iced coffee with cognac and Khalua. As for Santa, he is white here but on the skinny side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 On 2016-12-24 at 1:37 PM, The_Squid said: So you think some group ("leftists") are trying to change how you celebrate Xmas? Why can't they celebrate it their way and you celebrate it your way? Why do you need to insist that traditions that you've used must never change and get offended when they do? As far as I can tell, no one is tellling you how to celebrate Xmas. But you are certainly telling other people how they must celebrate. Because the black Santa at the mall is a public display. It's not just celebrating it in their way but changing the way everyone should celebrate it. That is how cultural marxism works. You take a cultural symbol that is traditional and you display it in public upside down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 41 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Because the black Santa at the mall is a public display. It's not just celebrating it in their way but changing the way everyone should celebrate it. That is how cultural marxism works. You take a cultural symbol that is traditional and you display it in public upside down. So you go to malls for culture? You are forced to go to a mall that has a black Santa and celebrate Xmas with everyone there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 On 2016-12-20 at 6:29 AM, betsy said: I have no problems with a black Santa Claus. In fact I'm happy that non-whites are getting into the spirit of Christmas cultural celebration. For a non-white to embrace the culture of Santa Claus (western Christmas) - instead of feeling resentment towards that demonstration, I think it's heartwarming! Some anti- Christians want to be provocative, and some think that by putting a non-white Santa Claus is a provocation. Well........they'll be disappointed in me. The culture of Santa Claus is based on Christianity - Santa Claus is St. Nicholas! Christmas is the remembrance (and celebration) of the coming of the Messiah, as promised by God. Christianity is open to all. It should be. Jesus Christ had issued an invitation to all! It's the spirit of Christmas that should be emphasized - and Jesus came to earth for all mankind! Uh well stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not Patti Smith's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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