Argus Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: If I met a Muslim terrorist you know what I'd do? I'd talk to him. I'd get him to make me understand his thinking, even if I 100% reject it his conclusions at least he won't be subhuman to me. No, if you ever met a Muslim terrorist he would kill you. Or do you not actually understand what a terrorist is? Edited November 19, 2016 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 12 hours ago, bcsapper said: Probably because they would be killed by them too. They want to live amongst us because we're better. And we buy them a nice house to live in, and pay for their food, clothing, education and health care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 17 hours ago, eyeball said: It stands to reason Muslims have their lefties and righties too. Yup and just like here at home, the most conservative ones are the ones calling for violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, Argus said: No, if you ever met a Muslim terrorist he would kill you. Or do you not actually understand what a terrorist is? This is a really stupid comment, and its clear that you are the one that doesn't understand what a terrorist is. Islamic militants done impulsively attack every westerner they talk to. They try to blend into the population and act as normal as possible, and the well organized groups are disciplined. They plan specific attacks against specific targets, with specific goals. You could have completely normal conversation with many of them without ever having any idea they were militants. Also the term terrorist has no real meaning anymore, and is probably the most incorrectly used word in history behind maybe "fascism". Terrorism is a military tactic, and how you evaluate them depends on your perspective. For example... If Alqeada re-branded itself and started attacking Iran we would remove them from the "terrorist list" faster than rabbit gets fvcked, and we would probably start working with them or sponsoring them. When "the terrorists" are attacking our enemies we tone down the rhetoric. We call them "guerillas", or "paramilitary groups", or even "freedom fighters". The failure to recognize this is why the GWOT has gone so poorly and produced less than zero results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 31 minutes ago, dre said: This is a really stupid comment, and its clear that you are the one that doesn't understand what a terrorist is. On the contrary. I know precisely what a terrorist is. Unlike yourself, however, I'm not in the habit of making excuses for them, apologizing for them, justifying their actions, or twisting myself into knots to think of cultural equivalencies to pretend they're just like me. I, you see, judge them from a position of universal morality, whereas, you don't even have any or believe morality exists. Your every comment on such topics shows that your judgement as to the morality of what people or groups do is based on your approval of their political views. You criticize the West, alleging they would excuse a terrorist group if it acted against our enemies, but that is just imputing the same lack of morals to the West your own political views possess. Edited November 19, 2016 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Guys, Stop the thread drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) On 2016-11-19 at 1:42 PM, dre said: I have edited my comments by deleting Dre's which had nothing to do with the topic. Getting back to the actual subject, Trudeau has no sense of fiscal responsibility. His approach to everything is to spend tax payer's money on literally anything and everything associated with his photo op of the day. He needs to shut his mouth and stop pledging money he does not have. His trips to Argentina and Cuba were unnecessary idiotic photo ops. Argentina is a direct competitor of Canada and now even more so as it sells its beef and wheat to Europe.. Its in direct competition with us to sell the same products to the same European and world markets. He did not address that at all in his purile photo op. Edited November 21, 2016 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Rue said: His trips to Argentina and Cuba were unnecessary idiotic photo ops. Really, so what do you think our foreign policy should be based on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Argentina has always sent its beef to Europe. Now we are now competition for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herples Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Wilber said: Argentina has always sent its beef to Europe. Now we are now competition for them. Canada wants to sell Argentina pork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, herples said: Canada wants to sell Argentina pork. I did hear that. I was thinking more on the lines of our deal with the EU as being more competition for Argentina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 5:34 PM, ?Impact said: The government in Argentina is changing to something that is more in line with Canadian values, something many here seem to cherish. As I understand it, Argentina is asking for our help in resettling Syrian refugees because that is something we supposedly have experience with. It is more about experience than money. So, then give them all the experience that we have but let us keep the taxpayer's tax dollars in Canadians wallets then if it is not about the money. I repeat. Why do Canadian taxpayer's have to pay for what Argentina wants to do with their refugee problem? It's not my problem, why use my tax dollars? There is no common sense or logic to this. This is just another case of the liberals wasting Canadian tax dollars on other countries projects. These fake and phony politically correct Canadian politicians are once again being taken for suckers. When will they ever learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 7 hours ago, ?Impact said: Really, so what do you think our foreign policy should be based on? No more foreign-aid for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 15 hours ago, ?Impact said: Really, so what do you think our foreign policy should be based on? Mostly self-interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 9 hours ago, taxme said: Why do Canadian taxpayer's have to pay for what Argentina wants to do with their refugee problem? Please explain, and provide actual references. What Canadian tax dollars exactly are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 8:34 PM, ?Impact said: The government in Argentina is changing to something that is more in line with Canadian values, something many here seem to cherish. As I understand it, Argentina is asking for our help in resettling Syrian refugees because that is something we supposedly have experience with. It is more about experience than money. They know \we have a weak leader and everyone is going to be scamming him at our expense. This is one of the biggest blunders Canadians have done in electing this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 hours ago, ?Impact said: Please explain, and provide actual references. What Canadian tax dollars exactly are you talking about? I told you where I read this. Go look it up for yourself. The tax dollars that belong to Canadians, not refugees in Argentina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, taxme said: I told you where I read this. Go look it up for yourself. The tax dollars that belong to Canadians, not refugees in Argentina. Other than some cryptic reference to CTV news channel, you have provided zero in terms of actual details. With no leg to stand on, you are just making your usual Liberal-bad rant. According to the fact sheet at the PMO: Canada providing technical assistance to support Argentina’s pledge to accept refugees from Syria and neighbouring countries, including in the areas of private sponsorship and refugee integration into Argentine society. Edited November 22, 2016 by ?Impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 20 hours ago, herples said: Canada wants to sell Argentina pork. Yah I heard that. Is it kosher pork? Makes zero sense Herp.. Argentina is more than capable of having its own pig farms. They do not because their people do not like or eat pork. They are red meat eaters and that is because if you have been there you would know how good their beef is. It really is. Its not a pork eating place. I visited a ranch man the steak was something else. I had like 40 different cuts of beef. Unbelievable. I am still dealing with the cholesterol years later. Amazing stuff man if you are a red meat eater. Good wines too. They brought their grapes in like Chile from good regions in France, Spain, Germany and Italy and they have great soil for wine which I am sure you know. Their wine is the biggest export to us. Argentina is self sufficient and its no. 1 client is Europe, no.2 China, We are not even in the top 40 trading with it or vice versa. If Trudeau is serious about trade he should stop prancing about with his b.s. photo cops and concentrate on rebalancing Chinese trade imbalance. Edited November 23, 2016 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted November 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 On 11/22/2016 at 1:46 PM, ?Impact said: Other than some cryptic reference to CTV news channel, you have provided zero in terms of actual details. With no leg to stand on, you are just making your usual Liberal-bad rant. According to the fact sheet at the PMO: Canada providing technical assistance to support Argentina’s pledge to accept refugees from Syria and neighbouring countries, including in the areas of private sponsorship and refugee integration into Argentine society. I know what I saw on their ticker tape. If you want to believe that there will be no Canadian tax dollars being given to Argentina well that is up to you. I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted November 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 On 11/22/2016 at 4:01 PM, Rue said: Yah I heard that. Is it kosher pork? Makes zero sense Herp.. Argentina is more than capable of having its own pig farms. They do not because their people do not like or eat pork. They are red meat eaters and that is because if you have been there you would know how good their beef is. It really is. Its not a pork eating place. I visited a ranch man the steak was something else. I had like 40 different cuts of beef. Unbelievable. I am still dealing with the cholesterol years later. Amazing stuff man if you are a red meat eater. Good wines too. They brought their grapes in like Chile from good regions in France, Spain, Germany and Italy and they have great soil for wine which I am sure you know. Their wine is the biggest export to us. Argentina is self sufficient and its no. 1 client is Europe, no.2 China, We are not even in the top 40 trading with it or vice versa. If Trudeau is serious about trade he should stop prancing about with his b.s. photo cops and concentrate on rebalancing Chinese trade imbalance. Hey, if you are the PM you get to go and prance all around the world, and all of course at your expense. Isn't it wonderful to be the PM of Canada, and get to see the world for free. What a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Yep, Trudeau likes to travel the world for selfies, air miles, and to spend OPM* in foreign lands. Oh, and sell Candu reactors: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/argentina-snc-lavalin-candu-1.3865960?cmp=rss * other peoples money (i.e. taxpayers money, aka Canadian taxpayers money) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 On 2016-11-17 at 7:04 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Just setting the record straight, as it is laughable to invoke 911 victims for this OP after what was actually posted back then. You must have incredible discipline to lurk for 6 whole years before finally joining the forum in 2007 to offer us your wisdom. Discipline and stamina! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyslager Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Why do we have to get involved at all money taxed in Canada should at least stay in Canada if we have to get involved in anyway why not send troops instead train the refugees to take back there land we supply ammo and guns we are getting involved with things that aren't our business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herples Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 On 11/22/2016 at 4:01 PM, Rue said: Yah I heard that. Is it kosher pork? Makes zero sense Herp.. Argentina is more than capable of having its own pig farms. They do not because their people do not like or eat pork. They are red meat eaters and that is because if you have been there you would know how good their beef is. It really is. Its not a pork eating place. I visited a ranch man the steak was something else. I had like 40 different cuts of beef. Unbelievable. I am still dealing with the cholesterol years later. Amazing stuff man if you are a red meat eater. Good wines too. They brought their grapes in like Chile from good regions in France, Spain, Germany and Italy and they have great soil for wine which I am sure you know. Their wine is the biggest export to us. Argentina is self sufficient and its no. 1 client is Europe, no.2 China, We are not even in the top 40 trading with it or vice versa. If Trudeau is serious about trade he should stop prancing about with his b.s. photo cops and concentrate on rebalancing Chinese trade imbalance. Do you have a citation for your claim that Argentina doesn't like or eat pork? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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