George Soros

[PIK]

I heard his name on the news that the liberals are working with this man, to do with immigration or something of that manner. A man that believes there should not be any borders in the world. People should be allowed to go anywhere and do want they want. But I did not know about this. That is something anyone that knows about this guy, understands that. But I did not know about this. If true, then the liberals need to rethink what they are up to with this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Qr7TnWG74

Edited September 23, 2016 by PIK

[?Impact]

the liberals need to rethink what they are up to with this guy.

I guess that depends on what they are (or are not) doing with him. Seeking multiple points of view is good, adopting one without due diligence is not.

[bush_cheney2004]

Maybe George Soros can get some tips from the Koch brothers....they have lots of experience greasing the wheels in Canada with more American money.

[PIK]

Is there not a history between soros and the Clintons??

[?Impact]

Is there not a history between soros and the Clintons??

Perhaps, we do know he pals around with Trump and even provides him loans to bail him out of trouble.

[Michael Hardner]

A man that believes there should not be any borders in the world.

One man with an extreme belief, however in context that appears to be an emerging global phenomenon, perhaps a value.

Context referenced added.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2015/12/18/international-migrants-and-remittances-continue-to-grow-as-people-search-for-better-opportunities-new-report-finds

WASHINGTON, December 18, 2015[/size] – The number of international migrants is expected to surpass 250 million this year, an all-time high, as people search for economic opportunity. And, fast growing developing countries have increasingly become a strong magnet for people from other parts of the developing world. [/size]

http://monitor.icef.com/2015/11/new-oecd-report-summarises-global-mobility-trends/

The number of foreign tertiary students enrolled worldwide increased by 50% between 2005 and 2012. As many as 4.5 million students were enrolled outside of their home countries in 2012 and the total number is estimated to have surpassed five million by this year.

The world is getting closer.

[Topaz]

I've been told several times that this guy is helping out the Clintons get back in the White House. That he is also paying people to create the unrest with the Black communities. IF Trudeau is for One World Order, then we are in trouble.

[Cum Laude]

I've been told several times that this guy is helping out the Clintons get back in the White House. That he is also paying people to create the unrest with the Black communities. IF Trudeau is for One World Order, then we are in trouble.

Sadly, Canadians have no idea what George Soros is up to or what he has done. Most Canadians haven't heard of Soros.

Edited September 24, 2016 by Cum Laude

[?Impact]

I've been told several times that this guy....

Must be solid facts then, no way a malicious rumour would spread amongst the already decided

[Argus]

The world is getting closer.

Does that mean a future Canada of violence and bloodshed as one religious/cultural/political group attacks another in the streets, and firebombs the temples/churches/mosques/headquarters of adversaries? That is what's going on in most of the rest of the world, after all, where unbridled rage against anyone who disagrees with ones political/religious views usually, not rarely leads to mass violence.

The great majority of people on this planet right now feel it's perfectly acceptable for anyone who substantially disagrees with them to be either imprisoned or killed. Those great and noble lovers of the theory of a borderless world are pie-in-the-sky ivory tower intellectuals who need to actually experience the world out there before they bring it here. I suggest a one year sojourn to Pakistan or Nigeria for a start, with maybe a side trip to Saudi Arabia and Syria. Some time spent in Zimbabwe and Venezuela would help, too.

If people love the internationalism so much then they should leave, and enjoy it where it's at its richest.

[msj]

What a bunch of alarmist crap.

Get out and see the world FFS.

It's not as scary as you think.

Sure, there are countries to avoid.

But there are far more to see where you will find wonderful people.

If people spent as much time on the positive things happening in the world and realized that historically the world is far safer and less violent today than compared to many decades ago (and on an everyday basis less violent than many centuries ago when homicide rates, for example, were about 30 to 50 times what they are today) then maybe we could have a decent discussion without the detriment of fear tarnishing everything.

Edited September 24, 2016 by msj

[Argus]

What a bunch of alarmist crap.

Get out and see the world FFS.

It's not as scary as you think.

Not from the balcony of a resort hotel in a safe tourist zone, perhaps, but violence as a part of political discourse is the norm everywhere outside the West. Respect for religious and social differences is found in few countries outside the West. Certainly not in the Muslim world or China, and that's pretty much half the population of the world right there. You're pretty safe in the nice touristy areas of Africa, served by suited customer service people and cashiers. Go out into the villages and towns and cities where tourists don't go and view the political culture from a local's perspective and you get a pretty ugly picture compared to what we take for granted. South America is a churned political stew of demagogues, socialists and brutal right wingers while most people are powerless. That doesn't mean they won't smile at a visitor and make them welcome in broken English. Just don't try to tell them you have local political beliefs different from theirs. Then there's India: massively corrupt and filled with violent ethnic and religious rivalries which are ruthlessly suppressed by the Indian army. The caste system still thrives and women are murdered by their husbands and in-laws because their families won't increase their dowries. So no thank you. I like it here. I don't need to invite all that in.

Edited September 24, 2016 by Argus

[msj]

I have been out amongst "the people" in many nations unprotected by the gates keeping the tourists in and the locals out.

Haven't had a bad experience so far but I also don't go to crazy locations -yet (although many people think I go to crazy places but they are among the fearful idiots who only go to touristy places in Mexico).

Have walked the streets of Hanoi after curfew (midnight) when it is mostly dark out (they turn out the lights) and nada. Less scary than walking around Vancouver.

Have walked though districts in Quito less scary than that time I accidentally walked through Tenderloin district in San Francisco - and it wasn't scary.

The world is not scary. Most people are not much different than us (which is good and bad, I suppose).

There is little benefit to lead a life of fear when all you have to do is slightly step out of your comfort zone and go down to the local fish market, or the docks, or the local market off the beaten path to discover the world is just fine.

[?Impact]

If people love the internationalism so much then they should leave.

I bet you were a Vietnam war supporter as well: "Love it or leave it"

[Argus]

I bet you were a Vietnam war supporter as well: "Love it or leave it"

It was a little before my time but I would have been, yes.

[eyeball]

Most people are not much different than us (which is good and bad, I suppose).

True but most people are also brown so...

[Argus]

Haven't had a bad experience so far but I also don't go to crazy locations -yet (although many people think I go to crazy places but they are among the fearful idiots who only go to touristy places in Mexico).

John Ridsdel and Robert Hall probably thought the same. Hey, the Philippines, what could happen?

[msj]

John Ridsdel and Robert Hall probably thought the same. Hey, the Philippines, what could happen?

Sure, there is always risk.

There is an exchange student from Asia missing in Vancouver right now who probably thought "how dangerous could it be in Canada."

Well, women likely are not safe in any country because, men.

But enough of the anecdata - why don't you muster up the courage and travel somewhere where the language isn't English, the people are different, and the chance of getting some mosquito disease lends some excitement.

Nothing benefits a person like first hand experience.

Edited September 24, 2016 by msj

[Argus]

Sure, there is always risk.

Sure there is, though I admit it's usually not an immense risk. After all, you are an outsider and accepted as such. You have no stake in their internal arguments and no say in them. And they know that. You are simply an idiot foreigner, to most.

Well, women likely are not safe in any country because, men.

There's that cultural equivalency again.

You said earlier, most people are not that different than us. That's an old meme among globalists, but it's just not true.

Oh, if you say most people are mainly interested in providing for themselves and their families I'd agree. But then, so are animals. Does that mean we're not much different than animals? Well, no. There's more to us than the basics. People are a product of the culture and values where they are raised, and raised on those values by their parents until it's second nature to understand what is 'right' and what is 'wrong' and what you do when something is 'wrong'. And those concepts are often quite different here than in other countries and cultures.

The political, social and religious violence which fills many third world cultures is, no pun intended, foreign to us, and hard to get a mental handle on. We don't get it because the concept of, say, rioting against some ethnic or religious group and burning down their temple/church and beating and killing them is just not something we can understand. So we tend to dismiss it as the product of a few violent people. But third world cultures are filled with such things. As for women, there is a gaping chasm between how we see women and how many other cultures, most in fact, see women. So don't even go there.

[msj]

Yes dismiss the fact that women everywhere face violence, and the threat of violence, to a point that they must consider, for example, when and where and with who they walk. No matter what country they are in.

But of course, it's all about you and your privilege of being able to go to almost any part of this planet and you would be safe.

But you take that for granted to the point that you think that you are the one who is unsafe in this world.

It is a funny kind of cowardly cognitive dissonance.

Oh, and don't try to tell me about other cultures.

You clearly think you know all about them via tee vee although it is evident you have very little direct experience.

[Argus]

Yes dismiss the fact that women everywhere face violence, and the threat of violence, to a point that they must consider, for example, when and where and with who they walk. No matter what country they are in.

I dismiss you trying to pretend the violence women face in the West is in any way, shape or form equivalent to what women face in most other cultures. Women are devalued through most of the world, and violence against them is rarely treated seriously, especially if that violence comes from family members. In much of the world a woman raped won't dare to report it because if it's known then she will be considered tainted and dishonored. In some places her own family will kill her for dishonoring them.

But of course, it's all about you and your privilege of being able to go to almost any part of this planet and you would be safe.

No, it's all about my not wanting to bring those kinds of values and cultures to Canada in large numbers. If you love them so much then leave. Go to Pakistan and enjoy the night life.

[Charles Anthony]

Folks,

Stop the thread drift.

[PIK]

And Soros happiest days of his life were..............?

[Argus]

And Soros happiest days of his life were..............?

Probably watching what's happening in Paris.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/paris-migrant-crisis-1.3779541