hot enough Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 8/18/2016 at 10:04 AM, Argus said: http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/terry-glavin-canadas-servile-relationship-with-china Isn't that the paper where Matthew"Oh my god, there's a commie in my underwear"Fisher works? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 8/18/2016 at 2:53 PM, Argus said: China's human rights situation is better than North Korea's, and that's about it. It's a bottom of the barrel country in terms of human rights. How does it compare to all the US right wing dictatorship countries? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 8/18/2016 at 4:52 PM, TimG said: something as basic as the NTY requires that the 'great firewall' be circumvented. Not surprising, NYT is propaganda central. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Not surprisingly, the Trudeau government has ignored advice from our security and intelligence agencies and turned over a Canadian company which develops high tech lasers to the Chinese government. Since they've come to power Trudeau and his government have shown a disturbing eagerness to please and appease China in all things. Never mind what the Russians have on Trump. What do the Chinese have on Trudeau? The Trudeau government has approved a Chinese takeover of a Montreal high-tech firm, a deal that national-security agencies had warned Ottawa in 2015 would undermine a technological edge that Western militaries have over China. Hong Kong-based O-Net Communications announced on Monday that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s cabinet had given it the green light to acquire ITF Technologies, a leader in fibre-laser technology. Applications for such technology include directed-energy weapons. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/liberals-reverse-course-on-chinese-deal/article34441975/ Edited March 28, 2017 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I would not really get too excited over a Chinese takeover of the laser maker. They will have long ago stolen the technology, so might as well just get on with business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenOps Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 If you look at the raw numbers, and considering that China is well over a Billion people now. The raw percentage of Chinese immigration since 1850 is still absolutely tiny compared to European nations. What helped boost European immigration to the US specifically was the 270 million acres of homesteading land given away completely free to white races after they broke away from British rule. About 9 million square kilometers in Canada is still considered crown land, and although some was subdivided fairly early for British farmers, it to this day - is largely unused and owned by no private parties. This has limited even European immigration to Canada - we never had a free land giveaway like the US did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ZenOps said: If you look at the raw numbers... ....This has limited even European immigration to Canada - we never had a free land giveaway like the US did. That's pretty cool...the U.S. is a giant black hole for immigrants from around the world. Not only was Canada not getting as many Euros, but some Canadians went to the U.S. too, just like Mexican emigres. Edited April 10, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 17 minutes ago, ZenOps said: we never had a free land giveaway like the US did. Sure we did, we just gave it all to corporations is all. They're people too, or so I've been told. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenOps Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure we did, we just gave it all to corporations is all. They're people too, or so I've been told. Probably the best descriptor of greater Canada is: Has been and still is owned by the British Crown Corporation. To say that anyone else owns it is just factually wrong. China does not own it, Canadians do not own it, Queen Elizabeth II never lost control of it. The easiest way to know this is to simply figure out who you pay taxes to: In Canada its the Canadian Revenue Agency, a crown corporation. Edited April 10, 2017 by ZenOps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, ZenOps said: Probably the best descriptor of greater Canada is: Has been and still is owned by the British Crown Corporation. To say that anyone else owns it is just factually wrong. China does not own it, Canadians do not own it, Queen Elizabeth II never lost control of it. Shouldn't I be getting some kind of dividend, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, ZenOps said: Probably the best descriptor of greater Canada is: Has been and still is owned by the British Crown Corporation. To say that anyone else owns it is just factually wrong. China does not own it, Canadians do not own it, Queen Elizabeth II never lost control of it. There are huge ares around here that some majesty or another sold to logging and fish processing companies for pennies on the acre that are now prime real estate. Much of the rest was simply licensed off too whoever wanted it....well anyone who was deemed big and important I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Shouldn't I be getting some kind of dividend, then? We do get royalties to fund many of our social needs - notwithstanding how we might feel about whether we're getting enough. I don't think so and especially in light of how much we also allow licensees to poison or otherwise degrade the lands/waters they've been licensed to exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenOps Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) Forestry was considered ok for anyone and everyone up until the last few decades or so. Lets not forget, people needed to survive, even the US 100% burned wood for fuel in 1850, no different than the first cavemen. By the year 1900 the US burned about 70% coal and 20% wood for energy (about when electricity got its start) http://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-evolution-of-americas-energy-supply-1776-2014/ Afterall, land *needed* to be cleared to create farmer fields (mostly grain crops in Canada because of cooler weather) so that people would not starve. Nowadays however with wheat at $150 per ton its barely breakeven. For most immigrants from Europe and China, North America would have been a huge downgrade in quality of life before 1900 or so. You immigrated for hope of future generations having something, because there was nothing at that time - you were literally burning trees to survive each winter, and building cities like New York with wooden walls. Forestry is one of the first things that is heavily subsidized by crown corporations (doesn't matter if its Elizabeth or Aga Khan) so that food can be grown and roads built. Canada is definitely still in that early stage, we haven't even got a secondary emergency highway across the nation yet. I know people probably don't want to hear it, but to many more affluent Chinese - North America probably still is a downgrade in quality of life. Realize that in Europe and China you have thousands of years of built up wealth and infrastructure. Side note: Just for reference I believe that the US never landed a man on the moon, it just does not fit with the timeline of historical events of technological progress. Edited April 10, 2017 by ZenOps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 hours ago, ZenOps said: Side note: Just for reference I believe that the US never landed a man on the moon, it just does not fit with the timeline of historical events of technological progress. Oh boy....let me guess, you also believe 9/11 was an inside job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 hours ago, ZenOps said: Side note: Just for reference I believe that the US never landed a man on the moon, it just does not fit with the timeline of historical events of technological progress. They did, but you are right about the timeline. We should have been at Alpha Centauri by now, dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 What Trudeau's Chinese masters want, they get, as the Liberals wave through another Chinese government takeover of a Canadian high tech company, even though that company provides communication for the Canadian and US military. National security is simply not a consideration for Trudeau, as he eagerly counts the cash given to him by a wide assortment of Chinese businessmen. The Trudeau government is allowing Chinese investors to buy a Vancouver high-tech firm without a formal national security review even though Canada and many of its allies use the company’s patented satellite communications technology for security, public safety and defence. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/liberals-waive-security-review-for-chinese-takeover-of-high-tech-firm/article35246673/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 The US is noticing Trudeau's sycophanic treatment of Chinese government takeovers of Canadian companies and isn't happy about it. The Trudeau government’s decision to greenlight a Chinese takeover of a Canadian high-tech firm that sells satellite-communication systems to the American military jeopardizes U.S. national security, a congressional commission warned Monday and urged the Pentagon to “immediately review” its dealings with Vancouver-based Norsat International. “Canada’s approval of the sale of Norsat to a Chinese entity raises significant national-security concerns for the United States as the company is a supplier to our military,” Commissioner Michael Wessel said. “Canada may be willing to jeopardize its own security interests to gain favour with China,” said Mr. Wessel, adding it shouldn’t put the security of a close ally at risk in the process. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/us-rebukes-canada-over-chinese-takeover-of-norsat/article35294914/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) On 4/10/2017 at 9:13 AM, eyeball said: Oh boy....let me guess, you also believe 9/11 was an inside job. Anyone who is honest enough to look at the science knows that Arab hijackers had no part in it. Who does that leave, eyeball? Who is the sole owner/who has sole control of nanothermite? Edited June 13, 2017 by hot enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Trudeau lies to House of Commons about sale of Norsat. He maintained that every foreign purchase of a Canadian company is subject to a national security review. “What the Prime Minister said is demonstrably false,” NDP Leader Tom Muclair replied. “There has not been a national security review. That has to be ordered by the minister [Mr. Bains], who never ordered it because we know that because the company [Norsat] put it out in an official statement. … That is why the Americans are concerned.” In fact, Mr. Trudeau’s assertion was contradicted by the testimony of two top security officials Monday. Jeff Yaworski, the acting director the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, and Malcolm Brown, the deputy minister of Public Safety, told a Commons committee that the Investment Canada Act calls for preliminary security screenings, not national security reviews, of all foreign takeovers. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trudeau-says-us-was-consulted-before-approving-sale-of-norsat-to-china/article35305158/?reqid=5b98ac48-83a9-4e4e-ac1a-a4351a4e6262 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herples Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) A simple google search will show Hytera also has acquired companies in the US and has subsidiaries in the UK and US as well. The company in question is a private company not a company owned by Canada. Edited June 15, 2017 by herples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 12 hours ago, herples said: A simple google search will show Hytera also has acquired companies in the US and has subsidiaries in the UK and US as well. The company in question is a private company not a company owned by Canada. A simple glance at legislation shows Canada has the right to approve or disapprove of any sale to a foreign entity. Harper would never have approved the sale of a high tech company which provides satellite communications equipment to the US army and US marines as well as our own military to the Chinese communist party. All of which may help to explain the Trudeau government’s bizarre and inexplicable handling of the proposed sale of Vancouver-based Norsat International to China’s Hytera Communications. The facts are by now well-known. Norsat is described as “a world leader in portable satellite communications,” with a roster of clients including the U.S. Army and Marine Corps, as well as NATO. Hytera is, like any large Chinese technology company, an instrument of the Chinese state: indeed the government owns a small share. The security implications are obvious. Yet the takeover was approved earlier this month with only a routine security screening, not the kind of formal security review by defence and security experts that cabinet can order in cases like this. http://news.nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-rush-to-sell-norsat-raises-troubling-questions-about-trudeaus-approach-to-china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 US investment share in Canada 2014 - 49.4% of the total trade and roughly 54% of total trade for all of North and South America. China investment share in Canada 2014 - 3.4% of the total trade. The sky is falling the sky is falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 In 2008, PM Harper's government blocked the sale of MDA to a U.S. defense contractor: Quote OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada, bowing to heavy domestic pressure, said Thursday it had blocked the $1.325billion sale of sensitive satellite and robotics technology to U.S. rocket-maker Alliant Techsystems Inc on the grounds that it would not be in the national interest. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/reuters/politics/2008/Apr/10/canada_blocks_sale_of_satellite_firm_to_alliant.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 It isn't in Canada's interest, or any other country, in a moral sense, to have anything to do with the war criminal/terrorist/murderous USA. That people do only illustrates how deeply amoral some people are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, hot enough said: It isn't in Canada's interest, or any other country, in a moral sense, Doesn't matter...."morals" won't pay the bills. That's why 75% of Canadian exports go to the eeeeevil USA, and why Trudeau is begging Trump not to change that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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