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LOL. Today I saw a group of adults, women in long blue dresses and bonnets; men in blue pants/shirts with sweater vests and straw hats. And beards. Probably the women had long hair, but hidden beneath their bonnets. I've no idea which religion they adhere to. Or perhaps they were a theatrical group. Anyway, whatever they were doing ... Long Live Diversity! :)

.....just don't impose your diverse cultural practice on me. Or, try to change the culture of the host country.

Maybe, we'll all get along fine.

Multi-culturalism isn't going to work if the migrants don't assimilate and accept the culture of the host country.

That only breeds big problems in the future. That's a fact.

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What about your "Just say No" campaign in that other thread? How can women (girls) really mean NO when they're hanging it all out for everyone to see?

That's how these Muslim rapists must rationalize their rapes: western women are asking for it.

“Your Fault!” Why Western Women Get Raped by Muslims

June 27, 2016

Recently, after a 20-year-old Austrian woman waiting at a bus stop in Vienna was attacked, beat, and robbed by four Muslim men from Afghanistan—including one who “started [by] putting his hands through my hair and made it clear that in his cultural background there were hardly any blonde women”—police responded by telling the victim to dye her hair:

"At first I was scared, but now I’m more angry than anything. After the attack they told me that women shouldn’t be alone on the streets after 8pm. And they also gave me other advice, telling me I should dye my hair dark and also not dress in such a provocative way. Indirectly that means I was partly to blame for what happened to me. That is a massive insult."

She is not the first victim to be blamed. According to FrontPage Magazine editor Jamie Glazov:

Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker’s response to the assaults under her watch [when 1,ooo German women were sexually molested and raped by Muslim migrants] has been to reprimand the victims, suggesting that they had asked for it. She has vowed to make sure that women will change their behavior, so that they don’t provoke Muslims to sexually assault them again.

There will now be published “online guidelines” for women to read so they can prepare themselves….

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/raymond-ibrahim-your-fault-why-western-women-get-raped-by-muslims

Cologne attacks: mayor lambasted for telling women to keep men at arm's length

Henriette Reker urges women to avoid being in close proximity to strangers to prevent sexual harassment

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/cologne-attacks-mayor-women-keep-men-arms-length-germany

Her proposed guidelines included sticking to a group of trusted acquaintances, asking for help from others and informing the police. But it was her suggestion that women should keep at "an arm's length" from strangers that has triggered most outrage on social media, with the phrase turned into a hashtag - #EineArmLaenge - on Twitter. Thousands of messages have been posted using the phrase.

The main charge being made against her online was that Reker was blaming the victims for their behaviour, rather than the attackers themselves.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35243482

It's that kind of mentality from liberals that's endangering the host countries' own cultural identity.

If it boils down to having to choose which culture must be upheld - need we wonder why a lot of people want to

kick out migrants?

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Only if the trip from the Middle East/Europe becomes less of a 12 to 24-hour-hour plane trip and more like a few hours by boat ....

That's the major difference between we in Canada and the issue the Europeans are facing. Migrants can get there practically by foot. They can't get here by foot. We can control the flow much more effectively than they can over there. Realistically, it's literally impossible for them to 'swarm' to Canada.

Oh yeah? Just wait til the UN tells Canada to take them in.......we'll probably even airlift them up from there.

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Or, try to change the culture of the host country.

Sorry to break it to you: This is human evolution. Cultures are always changing. Sometimes there are some negative aspects when it comes to change, but overall, we continue to improve as societies.

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Sorry to break it to you: This is human evolution. Cultures are always changing. Sometimes the are some negative aspects when it comes to change, but overall, we continue to improve as societies.

Evolution, too, is a matter of survival. So, you're saying it's only natural to protect our own....

Also, depends on how you define improvement, and what you see as improvement..

Do you see the chaos, migrant-related, in Europe as an improvement? See what's happening to our democratic system - to the mentality of society?

I say, overall....... we're actually devolving.

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Depends on what you see as improvement.

Do you see the chaos, migrant-related, in Europe as an improvement? I say....... we're actually devolving.

Slavery, racism, imperialism, atomic bombs, genocide - these are some of the things that our western culture accepted in recent history. We have somewhat dealt with some of that. We continue to improve. Now, the biggest problem is the growing wealth of the 1% and the shrinking of the middle class. Many of those in power got to where they are through a ruthless system. They're not going to just suddenly give it up. One of the tactics that they use is by dividing people. They take the attention away from the reality of what is happening. Using immigration, you know, those 'different' people, is one way to deflect attention away from the rigged system they have created.

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Slavery, racism, imperialism, atomic bombs, genocide - these are some of the things that our western culture accepted in recent history.

If you think those aren't still happening as we speak - you're out of touch with reality, and you don't know what you're on about.

What do you think human-trafficking is? Ethnic cleansing? Do you know that imperialism is very much around today?

Imperialism exists today, but not in the exact form practiced during the Roman Empire or the British Empire. A country exercises imperialism today by projecting its power and influence through military force, ideological control, capitalist accumulation and the dominance of international finance, trade, technology and science.

https://www.reference.com/government-politics/imperialism-exist-today-3b5f4622418c4484#

Now, the biggest problem is the growing wealth of the 1% and the shrinking of the middle class. Many of those in power got to where they are through a ruthless system. They're not going to just suddenly give it up. One of the tactics that they use is by dividing people. They take the attention away from the reality of what is happening. Using immigration, you know, those 'different' people, is one way to deflect attention away from the rigged system they have created.

Only a fool won't see there's a natural division among the people.....if one group is determined to overpower the other, and the other is equally determined to survive.

I might agree with you though, in thinking that Obama and all those in power who thinks and act the way he does, is indeed using ISIS and Blacks, to divide the people.

I'd say those who promote communism and socialism does the very same thing! You're buying into their propaganda.

If you think there'll be equality, and there won't be anyone practicing corruption and cronyism in those kind of societies -

you're daydreaming!

In those kind of regimes, you're forced to make do with whatever handout the people in power gives you. Being Forced to be content, being resigned to something you can't change - don't ever confuse that with contentment.

Anyway, that's off-topic already. If you want to pursue that discussion, create a separate thread for it.

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Oh yeah? Just wait til the UN tells Canada to take them in.......we'll probably even airlift them up from there.

the UN doesn't "tell" Canada... or any country... what level of refugees to, as you say, "take {them} in". For decades, the UNHCR has used the phrase, "durable solutions", to speak of its engagement toward solutions that enable refugees to live their lives in dignity and peace... inclusive of voluntary repatriation, resettlement and integration. There are many very detailed UN documents, iterative building over time, that speak to these "durable solutions" - this document is an example of a brief and summary overview account of those low-level most detailed documents that speak to these UNHCR solutions: 2014-15 - Finding Durable Solutions

I encourage you... I challenge you to explore UNHCR policy related documents to support your implication that the UN "tells" Canada what number of refugees to accept. I await your specifics in that regard - thank you in advance.

as I give your posts in recent pages a most cursory review, I note your source reference base is most partisan... most suspect... in providing any semblance of fair, balanced and independent consideration. It seems your intent is to foster extreme examples from these partisan/suspect sources detailing events and circumstance in foreign countries... to foster those and then wildly offer supposition (as you've now just done), that these accounts have merit and direct correlation to Canada, to Canadians. Is this YOUR Christian way?

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Slavery, racism, imperialism, atomic bombs, genocide - these are some of the things that our western culture accepted in recent history.

Really? Slavery? Seems to me that slavery was invented elsewhere, discarded and banned by the West, but is still practiced in a number of non-western countries, including in the middle east. Racism is a world wide issue, but is lower and more benign in the West than in any other part of the world. Atomic bombs seem to have been embraced by a lot of non-western countries. I don't recall genocide ever being accepted in the West except in one country by one dictator, who all the rest fought against. However, it seems popular in some non-western countries.

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Really? Slavery? Seems to me that slavery was invented elsewhere, discarded and banned by the West, but is still practiced in a number of non-western countries, including in the middle east. Racism is a world wide issue, but is lower and more benign in the West than in any other part of the world. Atomic bombs seem to have been embraced by a lot of non-western countries. I don't recall genocide ever being accepted in the West except in one country by one dictator, who all the rest fought against. However, it seems popular in some non-western countries.

"Canada is among 12 nations with the lowest estimated prevalence of modern slavery, according to the charity. The index put Canada’s population at 35,871,000 with an estimated 6,500 or 0.018 per cent people living in slavery."

"The reported cited that the agricultural sector in the U.S. and Canada as a high risk area for enslavement.

“Others sectors have also been identified as high risk including construction, hospitality and domestic service,” the report said."

http://globalnews.ca/news/2731827/there-are-6500-slaves-in-canada-nearly-46-million-worldwide-charity/

Slavery in Canada: Do we know our history?
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The index put Canadas population at 35,871,000 with an estimated 6,500 or 0.018 per cent people living in slavery.

Slavery is illegal in Canada so this number is obviously nonsense. Obviously people can be victims of crime and that can include threats of violence unless work is done or debts re-payed but such activities are criminal and the victims can report the crime to police.
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Slavery is illegal in Canada so this number is obviously nonsense. Obviously people can be victims of crime and that can include threats of violence unless work is done or debts re-payed but such activities are criminal and the victims can report the crime to police.

"Slavery is a silent crime. Victims don’t come forward. In the EU the number of convictions for human trafficking has dropped by 13 per cent in the past few years; the latest U.S. data show that only 7,705 prosecutions took place in 2012, though the number of identified victims reached 46,570. In Canada, as of February 2013, there were 77 ongoing human trafficking prosecutions. In 2012 only 27 convictions took place, 12 in 2011.

Some victims don’t see themselves as such, especially victims of sexual exploitation, who tend to develop a psychological dependence on their abuser. Victims of domestic slavery are often foreigners who cannot leave the house or speak the local language. Others are simply afraid to seek help.

The courage of Leticia Sarmiento, the Filipino nanny at the centre of therecent landmark human-trafficking case in British Columbia is direct evidence that justice can be achieved when victims of human trafficking speak out."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/they-walk-among-us-slavery-in-the-21st-century-takes-many-forms/article14924976/

Tim, you need to figure out what slavery represents.

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Slavery is a silent crime.

"Slavery" refers to the institutional structures set up to allow people to legally compel others to do work. The closest we have in Canada is a legal framework for the collection of debts but the debtor always has bankruptcy if the debts are too large.

It is simply wrong to describe various acts of violence and intimidation as 'slavery' since no victim is compelled by the state to stay in that situation. The fact that many victims don't believe they have a choice does not turn their experience into "slavery". In fact, I would say the family courts with mandatory child support payments provide much better examples of state sanctioned "slavery" in Canada.

This is another example of how activists seek to debase the meaning of words in order to create propaganda for their cause.

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So you support scantily clad women in public? ....

I know this question was not posted to me directly but it got me thinking. I support the right for any woman (or man) to go naked in public if they want. I also support the right of members of the public to stare or point and laugh (depending on the body) at that naked individual.

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We'll have Liberals in power forever!

We will probably be the stuck with the liberals forever as long as the people in this country keep voting for them. The liberals have just about destroyed this country as we once knew it. The liberals are allowing minorities to run and rule this country at the expense of the host people. The sad part is that most of those host people could careless what happens in their country. When one tries to explain to them what the real issues are, all one gets from them are insults and labelled with somehow being involved with some racist group. That is how the liberals work and win. The liberals make accusations about whom they don't like, and the people will believe them without a whimper or questioning the liberals as to whether what they say is true or not. Most Canadians are just gullible fools. They never question anything. They just shrug their shoulders, and say aw well. :)

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.....just don't impose your diverse cultural practice on me. Or, try to change the culture of the host country.

Maybe, we'll all get along fine.

Multi-culturalism isn't going to work if the migrants don't assimilate and accept the culture of the host country.

That only breeds big problems in the future. That's a fact.

Right on, Betsy. :) Multiculturalism is a game plan program and part of agenda 21 by the elite globalists who want to destroy a nation of it's culture traditions and heritage. A country cannot survive if it continues to let every culture, heritage and tradition from around the world enter that country, and then do everything possible to help be protect and promote their culture by that country as it is done in Canada today. 80% of the new immigrants coming to Canada are coming from the third world, and those people are changing and messing with our way of life, and how we do things here. They are pretty much told that we are a multicultural country when they get here, and that they really not need to assimilate but just carry on from where you immigrated from. Our politicians are destroying Canada with their multicultural agenda, and don't appear to mind doing so at all. I would never call any of our politicians Canadian patriots. On the contrary, they are just the opposite. None are worth the time of day. Just my opinion of course.

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.....just don't impose your diverse cultural practice on me. Or, try to change the culture of the host country.

Maybe, we'll all get along fine.

Multi-culturalism isn't going to work if the migrants don't assimilate and accept the culture of the host country.

That only breeds big problems in the future. That's a fact.

Do we have a problem here in Canada with multi-culturalism? Is anyone in Canada imposing their cultural practice on you?

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That's not very Christian of you to allow others to point, stare and laugh at other people exercising their rights.

You're clueless about Christianity - and you don't understand what is being said - so, who cares what you think.

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